The Xbox One X could be the best thing to happen for PS4 Pro.
I think this is true on multiple levels. The competition might drive Sony to help game devs get the most out of the Pro so as to make the x-advantage as negligible as possible. Should be better than the limited attention the Pro has been getting thus far...
true at least it would force Sony to add supersampling via firmware to the Pro
IMO the pro was DOA , it makes no sense owning one IYAM. regular ps4 will do just fine.
@VforVideogames How is 20% of all PS4 sales DOA? If you already have a PS4 and don't have a 4K display I don't really see any compelling reason to upgrade although there may be some that will. One feature outside the graphics is the fact that the PS4pro has a SATA 3 bus (up to 600MB/sec) compared to the SATA 2 bus (up to 300MB/sec) of the PS4. Having a faster system bus means the PS4pro owner can install or use an external SSD and get the full performance (500MB/sec plus read) which would result in much faster loading of some games. Unfortunately, SSD's are relatively expensive (two to five times more) when compared to HDD's. SSD's are dropping in price, however, I don't foresee any price parity or better for a few years yet.
It's already there but Sony isn't shouting it from the rooftops... Only games from last year that used SDK 3.50 or earlier don't do it automatically since support wssn't included yet in the SDK. Newer games will use a newer SDK. SDK version numbers are the same as the firmware ones, 3.5 has been a while ago now...
Aenea Yeah i know what you mean that now all games support supersampling on the Pro but i wish it would be there in the firmware to force it into older games that don't support it.
Exactly! I bought a Pro back in March with Horizon and a 4k TV and have been wanting more Pro Enhanced titles! I do wish the Pro had the benefits the X does like automatic texture filtering on older games that don't have a patch.
You're as crazyCoconuts Sony First Party developers are already taking advantage of the PS4 Pro. Just look at The Last of Us II, Horizon Zero Dawn and Ghost of Tsushima, Days Gone and God Of war.
Sony has incredible tools available for getting the most out of the Pro. Its been there since the beginning. They don't need MS to kick them into gear. Devs have to take the time to use them, which is all on them. Sony can encourage it, and they do, but resources aren't always available to do much. Same is going to be true on the X1X.
True, even though Pro owners are getting watered down versions, it is still better than nothing.
No water down versions when it comes to exclusives especially first party.
As powerful as the x is, nothing has looked as good as uc4 yet. Nevermind the amazing gameplay.
Good point, gotta feel terrible for Naughty Dog that they can only offer their fans checkerboard versions of their beautiful games. At least they get to experience a good experience while they debug on PC, but their fans never get to see the game as it should be.
And it's too bad that Xbox fans who won't give PS a chance will never experience the "watered down" version of some of the best games ever made. Shame those "watered down" versions of ND games still look better than anything on Xbox....X or otherwise.
@maybelovehate Because the ND game equivalent on Xbone this gen, Quantum Break, is a native resolution AND great game this gen on both Xbone and XboneX lol? Exactly.
Xbox One X users don’t get to see PC versions of games either. Lol...you sure are talking a lot of shit.
“it is still better than nothing“ Like Xbox first party.
Wrong. Do some research next time.
What happened to Crackdown 3 and Sea of Thieves this year again? lol
Water down version? Do you remember PS2? History repeats itself.
Do you guys ever quit or think before you type? The X just came out. So should this be said for the standard Xbox that been on the market for the past 4 FREAKING YEARS!!!! Did you guys forget about that system? I swear you fanboys must live on another planet. I want to say every cuss word in the book right now but I'm trying to stay civil.
Watered down versions?? Like seriously!! Are you joking or embarrassing yourself...
Waterdown versions?.... I think all these extra pixels have gone to your head.
I guess you're Xbox One X versions are watered down compared to my uncompromised PC versions, right? Yeah sounds absolutely ridiculous and the fact that you posted this with any sort of seriousness is scarier than the idea that the Xbox One X hasn't provided you with anything but prettier Pro multiplats. On top of that, the day the Xbox One X gives me anything close to the visual caliber off The Last Of Us Part II is when I'll finally see what its true potential is.
Most Xbox fans, the ones that don't upgrade or haven't yet upgraded, will still have the worst console version...
Sorry guys. I would be pretty upset if I bought a Pro as well. Don't worry though PS5 will be out soon to fix the mistakes that have been made.
It's sad when you consider a company releasing less games, but stronger hardware, a "success", while the company with a moderately weaker console, but FAR better support, made "mistakes". There's a word for people like that, but because I honestly feel bad for you, I'll spare the embarrassment.
Why would one be upset by buying a Pro? If you game on PlayStation why would buying a better version of a console you like be upsetting? Would Xbox fans be upset if Sony somehow released a 10Tflop console next year? Of course not! Not that Sony will do this, it's just an example so don't get your panties in a twist. @lp11 The word you seek is "mistake" 😉
Microsoft PR is getting overly full of themselves I think. What I think is good for the Pro is games like Spider-Man, God of War, Detroit: Become Human, The Last of Us 2, Days Gone, The Last Stranding and all the other huge exclusives that can't be played anywhere else.
And thats not mentioning Ghost of Tsushima which looks phenomenal and they renewed the Syphon Filter trademark so they have alot coming in.
Hopefully means a price drop for pro...then I’ll get one to compliment my vanilla PS4.
X is also good news for the future of Xbox. Spence and CEO definitely wants Xbox to be a major force in gaming from here on out. Microsoft learned a valuable lesson from PS4.
Dropping every big exclusive to PC not learning a thing.
Not PC in general...Windows 10 specifically via the Microsoft Store. You understand that Windows 10 is also Microsoft right?
@timotim Yes, I am aware that most desktop PC's run a version of Microsoft Windows, however, games that are developed for that operating systems can be sold via "bricks and mortar stores" and digital download vendors. If those game outlets are not owned by Microsoft then Microsoft does not get a royalty unless they are the developer or publisher of the particular game. If a game is developed for a console then a royalty has to be paid to the developer of that console.
Whooooosh point straight over Nitus' head. Don't worry, he'll pick it up later.
First off the X just released. Give it time and the graphical lead is only going to grow. The Pro isn’t going to catch up while the X stands still.
You’re assuming that devs won’t improve their skills for the Pro as well...
Sure, if multiplatform devs provide anything better looking than The Last Of Us Part II. Until then, you are relegated to Native 4K/Checkboard 4K multiplatform games.
Exactly. I’ve played nearly all the multiplat games on a PC that has more power than One X. But when you play Horizon Zero Dawn and Uncharted: TLL you see a higher level of graphical achievement than any platform on the market has to offer.
That’s okay because I’m more interested in the multiplayer, multi-platform games than I am the few short single player exclusives. You’ll be regulated to the inferior version of all of those.
I won't be "relegated" to anything, because unlike you, I don't cozy myself to one brand/device. I get to enjoy superior exclusive titles on PS4, superior multiplats (as PC will always win there), and then some Xbox multiplayer time with friends.
Any fanboyism aside....... Any new hardware is always good for any gamer. Means the bar is being raised, and your preferred fanboy manufacturer either just raised it, or will raise their own to a new level. Win for everyone.
Its great news for standard PS4 owners too. Now devs are offloading CPU tasks to the GPU in their games and engines like they SHOULD have been when Mark Cerny told them at the PS4 reveal almost 5 years ago. Its been working great for PS4 exclusives and their engines so far and it shows. Case in point, AC Origins, it runs amazing on standard PS4 with it actually looking incredible AND hitting that 1080p sweet spot that the other garbage engine AC games this gen, that still somehow didn't look as good, couldn't do.
The arrival of the X did finally get CD Projekt Red to do a Pro patch so there is that.
Sony's been lazy with the Pro. Hopefully the X's coming lights a little fire under their rear.
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