ThisGenGaming says "The Xbox One X just got some incredible news for fans of backwards compatibility."
So True 4K not only pertains to XB1 titles, BUT all the previous generations of Xboxes too? Beastly! MS must have wizards on the Xbox team to even make this possible.
It's incredible because it also works using original discs. PS2 classics need to be purchased again and only get bumped to 1080p. Near 4K is insane for OG Xbox.
On the only reason those OG Xbox titles are near 4K at 1920p instead of 2160p is due to the 480p screen ratio of that generation. Ninja Gaiden Black is an OG Xbox title that has a widescreen format and can display at 2160p natively at 60fps. I haven't been following the PS2 emulation titles lately but is there an increase in performance/graphics/resolutio n on the PS4 Pro from the OG PS4 on those PS2 titles? If the XB1X can do it, one would figure the Pro is offering a similiar upgrade as well.
Nope, just the same on PS4 Pro. Nothing extra.
Sony is just being greedy, they want to charge for the right to run any old game on their emulator. If you want the game rendered at higher resolution you have to pay even more.
That's a good look MS!
Backwards compatibility and the fact it actually upgrades original Xbox and Xbox 360 games is making me want to get an Xbox One X. These kinds of features matter a lot to me. If they get the Tenchu and Otogi games working I will almost certainly get an Xbox One X.
I own a pro and honestly it feels more like a basic redesign than a beefed up mid-gen spec upgrade. I have a pro, and currently have no plans to upgrade my xbox one s to a one x system, but props to the xbox division. this is how you do a mid-gen refresh. xbox haters can bash all they want, but everyone knows, if it was the ps4 pro that had 12 gigs of ram for hi res texture packs they'd be talking it up and singing it's praises from the mountain tops.
@TGG23 If you look at my comment history you will know I'm a PS4 first fan. But I have to admit I'm kinda getting jealous. Your right you have to purchase PS2 games again. But not xbox games. I was one of the people saying it should not have to be but was called a xbox fanboy. Maybe this will make Sony act right when it comes to backwards compatibility. Especially seeing how most of the time Nintendo is backwards compatible along with now Microsoft.
MS does have some of the best programmers from around the world working for them. This is a reason why they have been able to successfully utilize BC and this is just further proof of how capable they really are. This is amazing in terms of what they are able to do with the BC program.
Not exactly, it's more about the fact that they've used direct X and a average computer setup for Xbox since the beginning. While having good programmers is part of it. In the case of this. Literally it would take way less to emulate Xbox and 360 than PS3 or PS2 because the Emotion and cell
Way to downplay xbox and make excuses for sony not having BC. Bravo 👏
@Teflon02 Not certain why you are getting disagrees, but you are right. We all know why Sony cannot do BC, but some are playing like Sony has never said anything. Sony shot itself in the foot with going with these multiple design/system architecture and we as consumers have to pay the price for it, literally. MS choose the correct path since they designed the original Xbox. Yes they have good programmers, but the design of the architect has more to do with it than anything. Sony on the other hand, like I said earlier, shot them selves in the foot, took a different path, it hurt them financially, and they corrected it with the PS4. The problem is that it makes Sony look bad either way you look at it. Sony has the ability to at least give us PS1 and PS2 games on the PS4 but they do not want to invest in that time or they are trying to get it right, its just taking them forever (remember hearing rumors during the PS3 days that they were working on a solution for BC via emulation for PS1 and PS2 games, which I am sure they implemented and now they are trying to figure out how to emulate the PS3 games without rebuilding, but instead of allowing the emulation to work via disk, you have to purchase and download the game). Either way what MS did right here is pretty cool, but is it really enough to stall the horse?
Xbox brand has shown wizardly software development before. They just know what they are doing
So much awesomeness! Future Xbox One X owners are about Epic fun times! Just a few more weeks people! ^ ^
This is what happens when you don't have exclusives....We want new games.
Except that they do have multiple exclusive coming up. Stop it with your fanboy mentality.
It takes wizards to make old games run better on better hardware?
Sony certainly can't do it...
Not wizards, good software engineers!
the problem you seem to miss is those older games textures weren't created with 4K in mind since the xbone 360 could barely run games in 1080p 60fps, so all you're getting is glorified, stretched textures across a 4k resolution.
Which means 360 emulation on the X1X is on par with PS4 games on PS4 Pro? Very few Pro patches involve 4k assets. I don't see a problem, and the videos released so far show that the system is resolving more detail from the provided assets. Maybe not 4K, but definitely above native quality.
No doubt theyll look great but this is not true 4k. Albert penello states that if the game was running 720p then itll be 4 times that, and og xbox games at 480 can be upscaled at 19x. This does not equal true 4k. So true 4k does not pertain to all previous generations. Its still a great achievement but the answer is no to your question.
I don't see how anyone can day this isn't good for gamers. Ok one has to repurchase their games. They can use original discs. Huge fan of both systems. Now we just need Xbox to start getting solid exclusives and that will be that. Or, honestly, I'd love to see them join forces and work together and make the gaming market a unified one.
woohoo! lets buy an xbox one x to play old xbox games since we there are very little new exclusives to play on this $500 console! Hahaha just kidding guys, just the sony fanboy in me talking.. Glad you guys get to enjoy your old games
That is weird, I was sure Fifa 18, Forza 7, Cuphead and shadow of war just came out along with AC Origin, COD WW2, Battlefront 2 in the next few weeks and RDR2, the new Far Cry, State of Decay 2, Crackdown 3, Anthem, Kingdom Heart 3 next year. Those NEW games must've been canceled on Xbox. /S Also, nothing is wrong with old games just like many have enjoyed remastered titles in this generation. More options the better.
Very few of those games are “exclusive”, and the few that are, I can play on my PC.
CyberSentinel, who cares? When I'm playing Destiny 2 or Shadow of War, I'm not thinking "This game would be so much better if nobody else was able to play it on their platform!"
"I can play on my PC." Well, I and many others don't have a gaming PC or care to play on PC. If you do, good for you. I'll be enjoying Red Dead Redemption 2 along with Red Dead Redemption and Ninja Gaiden Black..all enhanced on my X. Thank you very much
Sad thing is an old game, and I mean old (Halo 3), will still offer better multiplayer than any PS4 game. And if anyone says Destiny or COD is better, well I'll say those are on Xbox One too. So this whole thing where Xbox owners are excited to play old games... well yeah, because those games can't be found on a Sony platform.
@CyberSentinel Not everyone has a PC capable of running those games well. And some people just prefer consoles.
How does one find time to play all those games? Not really directed at you just saying the exclusive thing is so overblown. Like do people just blow through games in a week or month? How long does it take to beat Shadow of War? 15-20 hrs? Cuphead maybe if you’re really good and don’t die 6 hrs
All coming out on PS4 except SoD2, Forza 7 and Cuphead. And the only one I feel like I am personally going to miss out on is Cuphead. Gheeerr!! So this gen for Xbox for me HD Bluray Drive, Quantum B, Cuphead, Gears 4, just not enough yet for me to "jump in" as of yet.
I appreciate you are kidding, but the truth is not all exclusive games appeal to all gamers. The "old" games in 4K native is going to be a lot of fun. For some of us, popping in the disc we already own will be a fun replay, for others it will be a new experience since not many gamers experienced these games the first time through. Enjoying previous gen games on the Xbox One X is only part of the consoles benefit. Current gen multi platform games should look and play best on Xbox One X and there are exclusives on Xbox One as well. Not to mention Xbox One S and Xbox One X do play 4K Blu-ray Discs too.
until Sony brings it in with the ps5 and then it will be the best thing ever https://media.giphy.com/med...
Who cares man playstation now is so much better and it has exclusives and stuff not only that but but but maan come on
How the heck is PS Now better? It's impossible that PS Now is better than what Xbox is offering. If you own the disc, it's free and if you're an Xbox One X owner, you can play them in Native 4K. Tell me the part where PS Now allows you to use your old discs for free and has a resolution of Native 4K?
Refer to Bigpappy for further instructions
@Shineon You may have been sarcastic the problem is that it is not out of the realm (by a long shot) of what a PS4 fanboy regularly says. It is canny how you can think like them. With rampant PS4 fan base here you are best to tag sarcasm with "/s" or you will be treated like those gaggled masses.
@Bigpappy its amazing how people cant pick up sarcasm im stunned really
Lol i know man but this is the internet. No tone of voice or nothin jus words so can be taken many ways an for lots of people english is not their first language.
I lol'd Shineon. Some people have already gotten pretty upset cos they missed the sarcasm though :P
Lol foreal its like you have to put it in closed captions for some people...
I don't think I've seen anyone try to defend playstation now. I think everyone agrees that the PS4 (reg. or Pro) should allow people to play their PS1 and PS2 games.
Oblivion in 4k with 10bit color? Good lord now I’m excited
Why? It's still the vastly inferior Xbox 360 port.
Compared to what?
@Bigpappy The imaginary port he plays on his favorite console. lol. It's funny how people will say anything to downplay this great news.
Oh, you must have confused Oblivion on 360 with that miserable Skyrim version you tried to play on your trainwreck of a console the PS3.
Compared to the PC version which now runs on literally anything since it's almost 12 years old. I never played Oblivion on a console, the Xbox 360 version had no vegetation and didn't even run at 30fps.
Hey, this is super cool and all. But. We. Want. New. XBOX. One. X. Games. You know, that push the OX to show what it can do.
I want both. Microsoft is doing well with the hardware and features, while Sony is doing better with the exclusive games. Both could learn a thing or two from the other.
yes because games like the order that pushes the console to its limits are so worth buying right? lol i'm a PC gamer and I own a PS4 pro but sony cannot get me to buy 95% of the garbage exclusives they release sorry I only buy games that have my interest and so far only persona and yakuza has done that and that's not even a sony first party studio so what does that say i enjoy my older games because most of these newer games cant hold a candle to old games like knight of the old republic and many more so let the Xbox guys enjoy what they have what you should be doing is asking your overlord so for these great older games so you don't feel left out. PSN-- sniperbsr/sniperbsr_ STEAM-mondaymurder23 XBOX LIVE PC-mondaymurder23
PS4 Pro can run SNES games at 12K.
And the xbox one X in 16K
My console runs it at 69k. Completely flips it around.
Lelo2play. Haha nice
Just what I always wanted! playing old games when I should be playing new ones and supporting those.
X has all the latest blockbusters running best on its console as well as all the classics running best on any console...you got to love it.
Well now you can support both with this option, right?
Maybe I'm going to be harsh but I can't figure it out where innovation is remaking the the same old games (and everybody's seems to be happy). What about new games? The word at MS must be quantity, "we need a lot of 4K games so we can win this race, and what is the fastest way? Just upgrade graphics to 4K and "voilá", the soup is served". This is good for nostalgia but please MS, take your money and develop some new games, something that can show the real power of the machine you're going to put in the market soon, have courage to do so. Take your competition seriously, or else...
"What about new games?" Here. Plenty if one decides to look and stop false pretending new games don't exist on XB1 and X. http://m.ign.com/upcoming/g...
Do you have any problem having more? I don't! Please stop your "defending crusade / cause / whatever" and listen to other opinions and most of all, respect it.
Russo, Do you see the irony of your post or do you need someone to explain it to you?
"Do you have any problem having more? I don't!" What is going on here?
If I didn't have enough games, I would buy PS4, switch and a gaming PC. Might even get an Atari. But don't get too excited... none of that will happen
Gotta get to the attic, find my OG Xbox stash of games.