A change to one of our upcoming titles.
TLOTR The Return of the King is probably my fav coop game of all time. Gutted to hear this
Honestly one of the best movie tie in games I've played. It wasn't exactly an incredible game, but it sure was a blast to play.
The Lord of the Rings tie-in games were all pretty awesome imo. I played Two Towers not too long ago and it's still quite fun.
And the wording is the worst and leaves little imagination about what they want. Truly saddening.
Apparently, Amy is no longer the lead. Basically, this was an announcement that her game was cancelled and they are replacing it with a model more suited to their end goals.
The wolverine game was also pretty fun.
Same, that game was amazing for it's time. Also loved James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing on PS2.
My god man they were good days I loved the two towers. The helms deep misson was so damn good, I still remember protecting that damn door from the uruk hai was so hard. The music was legit because it was from the movie, they captured everything perfectly. What makes it so special to me is that I love lotr, and these games were a dream come true, people dont appreciate that the series of games were basically a exact copy of the movies and it was damn good, very rare. Battle for middle earth the RTS was amazing too. Lotr probably has the best liscensed games ever. Thanks for reminding me bro 😁
"while Visceral Games closes down." Another great studio destroyed by EA. What a sad day for gaming. Dead Space 1 and 2 were phenomenal. "And instead of making that linear, story-based game, the title will be reshaped" I bet they will find a way to put Microtransactions in this Star Wars as well . F*** EA
This has become so relevant...I've updated it but still https://i.imgur.com/qVqzGNB... Such a shame
Amy Henning won't be please about this change.
I just can't understand how as publishers, EA can be so clueless. All they have to do is just look at the Dead Space sales. The one game of that franchise that they interfered with performed the worst sales wise. It's just mind boggling that they see these studios with so much talent, let them do what they want, see great success, and then go in and fuck it all up by telling them what they think they should be doing!! From a business stand point, it's just completely moronic!! DS 1 & 2 were up there with my favourite games last gen and I always, always hoped we might get another one, true to what the first 2 games were. Screw you EA!!
"Amy Henning won't be please about this change." Amy needs to get hired back at Naughty Dog , giving her a separate team and working on a new IP ...
Publishers getting in the way of developers’ vision for a game is not good sign. Amy wants to direct a linear SP game and EA wants something else, and Viceral Games gets closed down for that decision... this is terrible
Wonder how she feels now. I mean she probably joined EA straight after the ND fiasco because she was offered to lead a Star Wars game where she could mold it into I'm guessing the "Uncharted Star Wars". Now that it won't be an action adventure game what's going to happen, I doubt she'd be pleased with the change. Moving studios is one thing, shutting down the studio is another, changing your vision of a game you were promised to lead is something to get p***** off at.
She should just go to another studio. Her talents are wasted there.
Most talented creatives/STEM pros dont stay in the gaming industry unless highly compelled to do so unfortunately. These are people with advanced careers and/or degrees so once they get beat up by the EAs, Ubisofts, Activisions, MSs, and other a-hole companies it is difficult to justify staying when there are tons of non-gaming companies ready and willing to treat employees like gold. This industry is so full of viciousness when it comes to treating people with respect it's insane. Why would anyone choose to stay unless they had an intense love for making games, and if that is taken from them then there is no reason. The industry grows weaker in professionals by the day, yet they are abundantly available if properly compensated and given autonomy to do what they love.
Amy hennig should just leave EA. Hopefully she finds her way back to crystal dynamics and we'll finally have a proper legacy of kain sequel
Oh you bet your sweet penny, they arent even trying to hide it and i qoute " It has become clear that to deliver an experience that players will want to come back to and enjoy for a long time to come, we needed to pivot the design" Basically turning this into a GaaS and milking suckers dry, but still some will say " it doesn't bother me or it doesn't affect the game" with each day that goes by it becomes clearer that my back log and indies are they way forward for me, AAA games just arent exciting me anymore
From story-based, linear adventure game to GAAS. Ugh...
Its a shame really because it was the only Star Wars title I was looking forward to. People really need to stop buying games with GaaaS model. It's destroying gaming as a whole.
Damn EA... you're so disgusting in so many ways.
"Sigh" I can't believe this BS. EA is just destroying her career and her passion.
AAA games stopped being very appealing late last gen. Only the first party ip of the different consoles seem to keep it going. Along with a few exceptional studios and publishers. But EA, Activ and Ubi are long gone from my list and they have been since beginning of last gen.
By linear story based probably just means no wiggle room to shoehorn in MTs. In fact, if you read the first paragraph, it's essentially implying that, just replace "what our players want to play" to "what we want our players to play" Hopefully this won't be the end of this and EA get put on blast and Battlefront 2 is a flop
I hate EA so much. I can't stand with them. They are just screwing everyone in gaming business.
Bioware is next,DICE is already in deep MT shit and need to wake up fast or the same will happen to DICE as well. Yesterday I'm actually was thinking about Dead Space getting nostalgia about it and want to go back and play it and then the next only to hear the studio behind it is no more...have sixth sense really sucks.
Battlefield is one of EA's staple IP so I would be very surprised if DICE gets the boot.
Oh I don't have any doubt that Bioware (if we can call it that) next game: Anthem will have them.
85 upvotes, no downvotes DarkOcelot speaks volumes about how the gaming community views this decision. You're spot on. This makes me really angry. EA saying they needed to "pivot the design" and "deliver an experience that players will want to come back to and enjoy for a long time to come" screams loot boxes, grinding, and weak side quests. This will inevitably destroy the game's strong narrative vision. What a waste. Feel for the Visceral employees.
Closed down because the Visceral project led by Amy Hennig was going to be a 'linear, story based game'... What did EA expect? Awesome linear, story based games are her forte. EA trying to win the 'Worst Company In America' award again?
Noooo I wanted another Dead Space game. I just signed up to EA access this morning to play the series... Thanks EA 😡
Wut? Its been nearly 7 years since Dead Space 2. So its been well known over half a decade that EA aren't going to let Visceral make any incredible original games anymore. Even this Star Wars game meant nothing so far without a single shred of actual gameplay. I was already content a long time ago with the fact that Visceral where a studio that were never going to get back to that elite level of developer status.
Unbelievable. Thanks EA.
"In its current form, it was shaping up to be a story-based, linear adventure game. Throughout the development process, we have been testing the game concept with players, listening to the feedback about what and how they want to play, and closely tracking fundamental shifts in the marketplace. It has become clear that to deliver an experience that players will want to come back to and enjoy for a long time to come, we needed to pivot the design." He says it like it is a bad thing. Freaking EA shutting down projects to continue their BS lootbox/ microstransaction driven nonsense. Like I am not saying there weren't development issues happening but it seems like they wanted the chance to shut this down. So they could exploit the hell out of their new "reworked" game. You know EA, Next on the list is Respawn I guess :(
Yea I bet when EA shuts down Respawn they will blame poor sales even though EA rushed the first Titanfall with little content for the holidays and released the sequel between two of the biggest first person shooter franchises.
EA doesn't own Respawn. They merely had a publishing deal for Titanfall 1 & 2.
@dlacy13g I forgot about that but theoretically Respawn runs out of money cause EA are such terrible partners and keep killing their games. I would not be surprised if that happened then EA shuts down Bioware eventually. Because Bioware is already a husk of its formal self anyway.
"It's not GaaS! Quickly, shut it down, close the studio!"
^^Games as a Service^^
It is a shame, but millions of people are buying and enjoying their "BS lootbox / microtransaction driven nonsense". Not that that is what they're referring to anyway, their talking about a shared world MMO RPG like Destiny. They can't ignore the numbers... all the people crying online in forums like n4g are the minority. Most people want multiplayer shared experiences. I'm not one of them, but it's a fact we have to accept.
It sucks. A shared word star wars game would be incredible but why not have both?? Should have just kept it as is and made a separate game that's a shared world in the SW universe. I was really looking forward to a proper SP star wars game, but it's pretty obvious where they're going with this.
that's exactly it. I thought it sounded great and quite frankly I don't give 2 F's about any Star Wars game. Though I do love Vicserals past work and think they were easily one of the best studios last gen. Huge mistake that EA has again made.
The most shocking thing about that quote is, what the hell does Amy Hennig have to say about this? "We needed to pivot the design." That sounds EXACTLY like an interfering publisher that is going to ruin relationships with an elite creative designer working on their current game.
You do realize EA own that studio, right? They aren't perverts coming in and touching their game illegally. They can do whatever the hell they want. Visceral is dead without EA. Oh, I didn't need to say that...
correct me if i am wrong.. Respawn parted away from EA , isn't it??? they are Indie now. EA publishes their games isn't it ?
Getting bought out by EA is like hearing from your doctor that you have terminal cancer. You only have a little time left. I'm sure the game will now have multiplayer and microtransactions shoved into it.
Please don't make it online or base it around loot boxes! I've been looking forward to a modern single player star wars game, don't ruin it!
Good luck with that...
God I can't stand EA. This sucks I really liked Visceral...
Welp another great studio closed down. Between their studio closings, rushing out games, shelving franchises and refusal to do remasters for great games in their library that deserve them I'm still looking for a reason to buy an EA game this generation. I would've bought Fight Night but they decided to discontinue that amazing franchise for the mediocre UFC franchise.
No! This is so f*cked!! Screw EA! Hopefully they formed their own studio and make the games they want to make without bullshit pay models. I hate all this "Games as a service" nonsense, it's just buzzwords to get people to continuously pay to play the same game. Apparently $60 just isn't enough for games anymore, now they want loot boxes, microtransactions, season passes and pre-order bonuses as well. I hate where big publishers are taking the industry. I'm not buying any of their games new, ever.
Damn you to hell, EA! Visceral gave us the great Dead Space series!
That didn't need no Frostbite game engine either.
BTW it was the late stage engine change with Mass Effect that doomed the game. They were using Unreal, and some penny pincher decided to just switch engines when the game was 80% complete to Frostbite. THAT was the reason the animations were god awful, and it looked BETTER in Alpha phase. Frostbite is a great engine, but changing that with 3/4 of the dev done, is NEVER a great move.
Booting Hennig, shutting a decent studio, closing a game down, reusing the assets for another game that isn't story driven. Thanks EA your never fail to fail us.
"EA, never fail to fail" Love this
If you notice properly, The Administrator from The Evil Within and Gabriel Kruger from Mirror's Edge Catalyst look a lot like EA CEO Andrew Wilson... Irony??? I don't think so...
Perfect. Just perfect... http://media.tumblr.com/tum...
EA being EA. Amy Hennig can't be too happy about this.
Is anyone ever happy about losing their job? o_O
Not only that but seeing years worth of work going down the drain. I wouldn't blame her if she wanted to leave this industry.
She should start her own studio. That would be amazing.
Another day, another studio gets closed by EA.😢
Sad to hear this but not terribly shocked by the move either. No doubt this game will now include some kind of online feature that was outside of the original scope of the game. Regardless of the direction of the new game, I hope those affected by the studio shutdown find new jobs and a soft landing.
A message to Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft. PLEASE DON'T CLOSE ANYMORE STUDIOS. EA absolute trash tier company.
So all the hype was for nothing?? The Amy Henning game is canceled. The woman who created Uncharted couldn't create a fun single player Star Wars game? I find it hard to believe. The cynic in me think that EA want more loot box compatible game and a single player focus game is not that. Edit:I just canceled my pre-order of 2x Battlefront 2 on Amazon. I was on the verge of cancelling it after the lootbox progression system, but since the second copy was for my brother for his birthday, I didn't canceled it. But I was much more hyped by a single player Star Wars game made by the creator of Uncharted. EA you just lost 2 sales of your current AAA games because of your decision.
Wow wtf EA