On the rocks just five years ago, Final Fantasy is back to being one of the industry's top franchises - courtesy of some bold risk-taking from Square Enix.
Five years ago I was still enjoying FFXIII-2, which was a massive improvement upon its predecessor
I own 13-2 and as much as I like the characters, the gameplay is sh*t and has nothing to enjoy!
Lightning returns was pretty good too.
In about the space of 5 years or so we got FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX and FFX. You COULD say a few people enjoyed those games too but nothing compared to the fanbase of FFXIII-2...................... .............lol. The "brink of disaster" sure is an understatement.
I see the sarcasm but just to be clear to newbies FFVII 8 9 had way more sales even though there where way less consoles.
I'm pretty sure releasing a game which is obviously unfinished and takes a huge nose dive after Chapter 8 where it rushes the plot to the finish line, lacks character development, lacks story plot points and becomes so linear is pretty much a disaster. Better then FF13 but they were both disasters for different reasons.
While I totally agree, I have found that off the bubble of the internet, the general "public" perception towards FF15 seems to be really good. It surprises me, but where FF13 has always seemed to make people roll their eyes... I've found a large majority of people have lots of praise for 15. I found it to be a meaningless padded out open world, with a rushed story, average combat, bland characters and no real pay off in any shape of form.
well they reached a new audience for sure. But lost many ff-fans of the older titles. FF15 was more or less just another soulless Action RPG and not more. I really miss those FFs like FFIX, VIII, VII, VI, ... Not every game has to bee AAA, just give us a good story & characters. Investing all the money in graphics doesn't make a good game. And please, no awkward boob-show like the cid-character. some designers should really get a girl-friend and grow up.
No-no (shh...) Just let it happen... This is AAA gaming. Just bend over and take it, cause someone else will buy it if you don't, until they don't. And publishers will will just move on doing the same and worse next time.
That's why after renting ff15 and enjoying the hell outta the combat I send it back. The game just felt soulless. I hated the stroy and I hated the characters. Last week I ended up rebuying FF12 for PS4. Love the characters and that damn story is so good. I just with is had the combat of FF15😅
@RememberThe357: Naw, renting still given them money at a time when they're looking to make the Netflix of gaming and apply the mobile game model onto to consoles if not PC. Don't know what can fix things at this point, just that saying you're not going to buy a title that has fervent fanbase - who likely either hasn't touched the game or are demanding "Easy" mode s - isn't going to help.
Yeah, it's still on the rocks.
Continuing on the path to utter destruction...
Lmaoooo i remember you, back in the day you would always trash the new age JRPGs.
And he ks right to do so. This new age of JRPGs where eveyone just want to go full action really sucks. That said, thank God for Persona 5
Caused they sucked, which is why they have been going down hill along with the sales. FFXV sold good for a FF action rpg. But.........it lost way more fans then it gained.
Kalkano is right. I also have to point out FFXV had the biggest advertisement budget ever for a final fantasy. And it was only kinda successful do the the reputation of the turn based JRPG's. I mean come on 6 million with all these consoles sold? FFVII pushed more consoles then FFXV sold to 60 million people. If square does not produce by going back to their roots soon like the new president promised (yeah I know it takes years to turn the ship) they will lose theyre lunch money to falcon and others, soon.
Whoever wrote this needs to do some more research. Either that, or he is attempting to be hyperbolic and failing massively.
Final Fantasy XV is a game we never got https://www.youtube.com/wat... https://www.youtube.com/wat... These two trailers got me hyped for the game for years but instead i got blue balled to the moon. This has got to be my most disappointing game ever in my life. I just wanna know... What The Hell Happened!? Now in the article he mentions this a bit but for some reason it's...a-ok. Yeah they got the game out but.. what a shallow game it was. Ripped out of it's own flesh and skin. Only with it's carcass remaining
Oh look...when the Empire were actually part of the story and not tossed aside
Ah, why's you have to remind me of those. What a game it could've been...
Because Tabata took over...
It's sad when I like a $30 indie game (battle chasers)more than mainline FF game. 15 was horrible imo.
Persona and berseria are better imo
Wow... No. Unless grindy, empty open worlds are your bag and story doesn't matter.
I would just love a numbered Final Fantasy that goes back to its roots. Turn base down or ATB, an engrossing epic story, a story that's much more fantasy based ala final fantasy 4 or even 9 and for god sake let me fly the airship myself all over the map like in the old days.
Turn based combat like in the olders ff games is outdated
I think there's still a place for it. People seem to love persona 5 and it's turn based. Same with South Park stick of truth. If done right it can still be fun. There's a lot of forward chess style thinking involved in turn based combat which makes the victories so much more more satisfying than just mashing buttons. I just started up final fantasy 3 on the SNES classic and it still holds up cause all the pieces around it make it work.
If Turn-Based is outdated, then action is outdated. Action came before Turn-Based.
One of the main reason why I am done with Final Fantasy. Until they go back to turn base and make them like FFIV-X.
@whiteblue Divinity is turn based. Xcom as well. Turn based doesn't have to be bad. You can develop a great strategic game around turn based combat. That said, the combat is probably the best part about FFXV, and that's not a great compliment. Combat has always been secondary for me. Give me a great story, cool interesting world to explore, side quests that add story to the characters or the world and aren't just filler, and I'll be happy.
@arkard I dislike the combat because the party AI is dumb, magic is friendly fire and the summons come when you don't need it.
Illumnati doeasnt allow amazing hyped game they always left gamers underwhelming. That sound also SE doings.
Back? This series is up to its eyeballs in SE's incompetence. It's never been worse off.
In defense of final fantasy 15 Square must have done something right cause its only the game besides skyrim I have platinumed and I play a lot of games. Now i cant put finger on what exactly it is about the game that got its hooks in me but whatever it is it worked. It's the first game in the series I've played to completion since 10 and I've played all but the online games and 8. I do miss the strong story telling that has always been a staple of the series and only get glimpses of that final fantasy feel through cut scenes. I guess I'd get more if I watched the movie but it should all be in game.
Really? When I remember the Final Fantasy series being amazing in general, Final Fantasy IX finally launched for PS1 in Europe.................. and 5 months later the next gen Final Fantasy X launched in Japan, no joke and no exaggeration. THAT was how masterful they were at churning out these GOTY, 10/10 classics. So we are now 11 months after the release of FFXV. FFXVI coming in 2024 the earliest? Great. Lol how could a FFXVI POSSIBLY launch anytime soon when they haven't even finished making FFXV yet lol.
I dunno, the new format has potential, but could use a lot of improvements IMO.
Truly the relaunch of FFXIV as A Realm Reborn saved the franchise and Square-Enix with it.
Well the Fabula Nova Quadrilogy is over, hopefully we get a genuine focused story. If SE are going to make other games with FF name, make the game drastically different.
Sorry guys but I'm old school Final Fantasy fan. I still play the most of the series on my Ipad. I still playing PS4 remastered FFX and X-2. For me this series done with FFXII! With FFXII this franchise start going down, following FFXIII-2-3 was the epic fail for me and same time for Square Enix! FFXV not even a Final Fantasy game no souls, no music, no art for me in this game. Just giants boss battles that's it. Even storyline getting stuck after beat the game. (ESL guy here)
Sure, if you like fishing mini games, nonsensical DLC about cringe worthy uninspiring characters, and VR experiences. 15 is a joke and Final Fantasy is dead.
I don't know about bold choices, but the series has been in decline for a long time and hasn't improved. They can produced some good games, but the series overall is a shell of it's former self. At this point, I think we can say the series is too big to fail and can just survive on brand name alone even though the quality isn't there anymore.
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