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Xbox One X's Albert Penello impressed and 'surprised' by PS4 Pro

The Xbox One X is the most powerful console ever made, but coming a year after the PS4 Pro, we wondered if Microsoft was concerned about being seen as a bit late to the party. But Albert Penello, who leads marketing for Xbox consoles globally, told MCV that he was full of admiration for the PS4 Pro:

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Deep-throat101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

I am not impressed by the Pro because it ain't pro enough!

No, the console is fine but it's weird Sony didn't bother updating their big games...

Bloodborne
Driveclub
Uncharted collection
Gravity Rush remaster
God of War 3 remaster
Killzone shadow fall
Alienation
Until Dawn

WePlayDirty101d ago

"It's weird Sony didn't bother updating their big games"...

It's the developers that choose to update their games.

Bigpappy100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

All of the games he mentioned are PS4 exclusives. I agree with him. Sony has enough influence to keep content off of other consoles, but cant even get their w exclusives updated?

Can't let you put this one on developers.

Deep-throat100d ago

Bro I'm pretty sure that's Sony's decision. They can hire any studio to update their games for the Pro.

S2Killinit99d ago

But you should be impressed considering they are killing the competition by offering...games.

Death99d ago

@S2,

I was under the impression it was the larger global appeal. Game sales don't justify your opinion since we see how many these games sell and how sales impacted some of the developers. Attach rates between PS4 and its closest competitor are the same. I'm not sure how you can conclude releasing more games resulted in higher sales.

Cryptcuzz99d ago

@bigpappy

I'm sure there developers are busy creating new exclusive games rather than updating old games that have been released prior to the Pro's release. Almost all, if not all those franchise mentioned are already having their next game developed now and you can bet that it'll have Pro support.

bouzebbal99d ago

i've got to agree with him on this one..
developers do the update, but the publisher pays the ressources. not sure you know the difference developer/publisher.
i am also surprised not many 1st party titles are patched.

Unspoken99d ago

No good counter arguments from the Pony's. Just means they are losing...and sore at that.

Those tears are delicious, but they won't make the PS4 any more powerful.

FoxyGotGame99d ago

@UNSPOKEN "No good counter arguments from the Pony's. Just means they are losing...and sore at that.
Those tears are delicious, but they won't make the PS4 any more powerful."

MSFT show admiration to Sony for PS4 Pro and all the likes of you can do is bare your insecurities in what amounts to nothing more than imaginary console fanboy warfare. Whether kiddin' or not, you've displayed true embarrassment to the game community ...

*Sigh

pinkcrocodile7599d ago (Edited 99d ago )

@WePlayDirty I'm happy for you to say it's not Sony's fault, just down to the developers because that is the exact same rule of thumb for Microsoft. [email protected] is always down to the developers for all vendors so Sony and Microsoft's job was to build a system they believe would do the job and its now down to the developers to make their games shine, not Sony's and no Microsoft's. End of!

spreadlove99d ago (Edited 99d ago )

If it is the developers that choose to update their games, then developers seem to prefer to update Xbox games for the power of Xbox One X. I wonder why. Is it because it is so much more awesome somehow on Xbox?

Captain_Tom99d ago

I don't buy that at all. Sony is the leader of their own ecosystem and it is up to them to take the initiative and simply tell devs they need to update these games.

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DivineAssault 101d ago

Some devs get incentives but most of them choose to do this.. Practice for next gen as well as making their game more appealing..

k2d99d ago

Not at all weird if MS opts to go the extra mile to polish their xbox 360 for xbox one x..

On the other hand - why should Sony spend money and resources on PS3 upgrades, when they can focus on new PS4 Pro titles? It's not like they've got MS breathing down their necks quite yet..

Ghost_of_Tsushima100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

“I am not impressed by the Pro because it ain't pro enough!”

Another Xbox fan unimpressed with PS4 Pro? Unbelievable.

PS4 Pro is $100 cheaper than Xbox One X and likely $150 cheaper come the holiday. It’s just meant to be a mid generation upgrade unlike Xbox One X which is basically a next gen console with a price tag to match.

Bigpappy100d ago

Nope. Same thing just much better.

Ghost_of_Tsushima100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

@Bigpappy

“Nope. Same thing just much better.”

Better without a great exclusives lineup? Keep telling yourself that.

Deep-throat100d ago

Sense of humour, you lack it bro!

MrFisher2199d ago

When MS gets actual games then I can take them seriously.

Xerneas99d ago

It's still a mid gen upgrade. Price doesn't change that. PS4 Pro costs the same price the base PS4 did at launch. PS5 won't come out for at least two years, Nexbox at likely three, which will be PS5's direct competitor.

I own a PS4 Pro and I am not impressed. It's great, yeah, but not impressive. Most of the Pro Enhanced games look marginally better over the standard PS4. With the lack of serious support for many exclusive games alone, it isn't difficult to understand why.

MrEnglish99d ago

It's $100 cheaper for a reason. Stop acting like it's a system on a level with the X because it's clearly not. I love my Pro but they way you people defend your console is sickening. The cooling system In the X alone is half that $100, then the UHD drive that nobody supposedly uses but stores sell them and production companies release them and then let's talk about that GPU.

Stop with all this "But...but.. $100"

Exclusives is a different story but even that is subjective because you need to like what's on offer in the first place. Uncharted, Horizon and the new Spiderman are the exclusives I care about and Pro, Forza 7, GoW4 are all I care about on X, most people okay multi plays and if you don't then you must be one bored gamer

mcstorm99d ago

@MrEnglish your spot on. For me the Xbox one has the games I'm more interested in as I'm a racing fan and the Xbox offering is far better than Sonys so far this gen.

It is each to there own on this but for me my mix of switch and Xbox one are more than enough with the little time I now have to game.

For me all 3 offer great consoles some better at doing some things than others but all offer must own games.

I do find it funny how people feel a need to take a side with a tech company like they do with a sports team each to there own though.

81BX99d ago

Yeah it's just a upgrade... and better

Skillz121599d ago

@bigpappy nope the leap is to much for just an upgrade get it through your thick skull it it’s a full fledge next gen console with no games

KillBill99d ago

$100 cheaper and reflective of the value in comparison. XB1X for sure is worthy of at least $100 more than Pro.

Unspoken99d ago

Top article in Xbox and it's about the inferior PS4 and filled with it's fanboys. What a surprise.

Some must be scared of the power Scorpio has under the hood.

DJStotty99d ago

Id take a UHD player for the extra 100 any day of the week

4 weeks left

spreadlove99d ago

Xbox One X is a mid-gen upgrade with almost next-gen performance. If you want the best, and not some small incremental upgrade the Xbox One X is it.Hopefully, Sony won't do the same again, because Sony's idea of Pro is not very Pro.

trooper_99d ago

It's funny how most of them like to pretend they own PS4's to be 'disappointed' in the first place.

Captain_Tom99d ago (Edited 99d ago )

@Bigpappy

lol ok buddy. Even in the best circumstances the XBX is just 45% stronger on average.

That is before we discuss 1) That its CPU is only 20% faster (So full 60 FPS support is still impossible), and 2) it lacks FP16 (brought a 30% framerate increase to Mass Effect).

At the end of the day when you compare XBX to PS4K, it's just a 20% stronger console that can use bigger textures. That's it, for 30% more money and no games.

P.S. Also I will leave the hardcore XBOX faithful with this - Do any of you actually think ANY game on XBX will look better than The Last Of Us II will on PS4 Pro? No didn't think so...

tontontam099d ago

What I really don't understand is how the minds of these fanboys work.

"Xbox one x blows ps4 pro, blablabla"
it is like saying
"iphone X blows Iphone 7 out of the water"

microsoft did nothing special they were able to make the xbox one x more powerful than the ps4 pro because of the release date, hardware inside the xbox one x became cheaper and on top of that it is more expensive.

drop the price to $400 and I'll instantly be an xbox fanboy.

Dragonscale99d ago

@the_infected, unfortunately scorpio can't be next gen with the same cpu as xbone, its not far off though tbh. MS would love to bin off this gen but even they're not that stupid lol.

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WePlayDirty100d ago

@Pappy

Whatever influence Sony has to keep content off other consoles has nothing to do with developers updating their games for PS4 Pro.

Games released before the Pro came out are supported with the Boost Mode feature on the Pro.

Outside_ofthe_Box100d ago

You're not impressed by the Pro, but have no qualms or suggestions to improve the hardware...

Woolly_100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

Impressed by the Pro?

I'm far from Impressed. Especially the way it's being treated.

A lot of Sony's own games are not Pro enhanced. . as Deep-throat pointed out.

I find it difficult to be impressed from a technical stand_point, maybe because the X is more powerful plus it's being treated better.

Most Xbox games are getting the 4K treatment. And, third_party games that were not going to bother with the Pro have listed their games as X enhanced.

Like Witcher 3 devs for example, they weren't going to do an enhancement for Pro but decided to 'cause Scorpio cometh. Obviously they're not going to leave out the Pro user_base.
There is still no DooM '16 Pro enhancement. . yet the game is listed as an X enhanced game.

Scorpio is good to gamers even those who won't own one.

DigitalRaptor99d ago (Edited 99d ago )

"Most Xbox games are getting the 4K treatment"

Most AAA third-party multiplatform Xbox games are getting the CBR 4K treatment like the Pro. The games that can handle it, like indie games and Microsoft's average looking first-party games will be getting the native 4K treatment. Outside of that, 4K HDR gaming on PS4 Pro looks outstanding and a big step above the base PS4 can offer, so it's not really unimpressive at all.

It's more impressive with the amount of exclusive games it has coming to it compared to XB1 alone, and of course, Sony is focusing on giving their upcoming games the Pro treatment more than old games. How is that surprising?

Skillz121599d ago (Edited 99d ago )

Good to gamers but has no games.......

Razzer99d ago

Yeah, but are record trashing PS4 games without ever playing them. So of course Pro doesn’t impress you either. You are as biased as one can be.

trooper_99d ago

You guys brag about power and YET there's no actual games to back it up except for multiplats where you can ALSO get on the PS4 or PC.

Wake me up when Microsoft actually develops a game that beats Horizon or the new God of War. Better yet, if it beats Gran Turismo Sport.

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lukferr100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

You know what they are doing without a doubt? FOCUSING nearly all of their attention on NEW Exclusives. More massive games that can only be played on Playstation. Horizon Zero Dawn is the best looking open-world game this generation. Just breath takingly amazing. PS4 is where it's at. This is my opinion of course, but it's an opinion shared by the vast majority of gamers.

Kavorklestein99d ago

Actually, out of that VAST majority you speak of, only about 10% bought HZD. More people chose PS4 for performance. An edge Ps4 AND Pro are about to lose.. whether by an inch or by a mile... these days, power wins.
Exclusives are the last hurrah of people trying to de-value competition and general enjoyment.
The best gamers see value everywhere they look.
Fanboy losers see nothing more than reasons to hate on everyone/everything till they die.

lukferr99d ago

@ Kavoklestein, who in the hell said they were choosing PS4 for the performance boost? They chose it because of Playstation's history and brand name and what that means for games in general.
I also meant that the vast majority of gamers think PS4 is better than Xbox console. Because it is.

Kavorklestein95d ago

I actually think playstation is great and I would totally get one if I didnt already have xbox. Someday I'll definitely have both. But Oh well life goes on haha we all have our own way of seeing value and preference.

MrFisher2199d ago (Edited 99d ago )

You really went out of your way to name actual big games. And they all did get updates. Lmao. And bloodborne is helped by boost mode. I can confirm that.

Kavorklestein99d ago

I'm oh So glad I can count on you to confirm that.

ocelot0799d ago

Do have to agree about Sony not giving a Pro patch to some of their own first party titles. Mostly Uncharted Collection, Until Dawn, Driveclub and Bloodborne is the real kicker considering DS3 got a pro patch and greatly benefited from it in my opinion.

Elda99d ago (Edited 99d ago )

I'm a Pro owner & I agree knowing most of those games are owned by Sony. Especially Bloodborne & Driveclub.

letsa_go99d ago

I don't agree with your first statement because the Xbox One X is only "slightly better" than the PS4 Pro. (Am I doing it right?)

However I do agree that Sony should update all those games. All the games your mention are First Party titles (minus bloodborne) so there is no reason why they can't enable higher graphics settings. I definitely think driveclub would benefit, even though the developer is no longer around. There has to be someone at Sony that can patch it.

Ju99d ago

Of course. The Janitor. Anybody can do it

letsa_go98d ago (Edited 98d ago )

@Ju You aren't wrong. Theoretically, a janitor can move a few sliders in the video settings. More than likely though it would be a config file that you manually edit the entries.

and haha no thumbs up? Do you sony fanboys not want these games patched or something? I am confused. I have a ps4 pro and own the majority of these games, and would love to play them at higher than 1080p. Or play Driveclub at 60fps. Why would you not want that too?

Or did I upset the xbox fanboys for saying "DA BEAST" is only slightly better than ps4 pro? Just using your favorite term from the first 4 years of this generation, and your explanation of the 40% more GPU horsepower on the base PS4.

Razzer99d ago

How about Forza 5/6, MCC, Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, Gears of War Ultimate. Did they get 1X support?

Rude-ro99d ago (Edited 99d ago )

Pssssst... because they spend time and money making new games while the old games still are impressive. That is what happens when you deal with a game developing company.
Unlike Xbox that never even hit this gen, now, their old library of sub hd games will be this gen if you buy their new hardware.
Is it really that hard to understand?

Razzer99d ago

It is a valid point. Sony has been moving forward. The game library is the proof.

DarXyde99d ago

I wouldn't consider remasters "big games", though The Last of Us Remastered did receive an upgrade.

I think you're assuming these games will not be receiving an upgrade eventually. It also depends on how busy the studios are with current projects (Evolution withstanding).

Hardiman99d ago

While it's a treat to get Pro patches for older games I'll tell ya what's even better......getting NEW games that have pro patches such as GT Sport, God of War, Days Gone, Spider Man, Detroit Become Human and so on. Not to mention third party titls and I see you guys always downplaying checkerboard rendering but the X will be utilizing CBR for most AAA third party titles and only some indie and the few Microsoft exclusives that look cartoony such as Sea of Theives will be native 4K.

MegamanXXX99d ago (Edited 99d ago )

Why do you have over 80 degrees then LMAO What's also hilarious Bigpappy post this article

blackblades99d ago

Why, they're old and been played by most. It'll be a waste it's better just to move on.

QUIMICOMORTAL99d ago

I see your point! but then you should make the case against sony and not the ps4 pro!

Gwiz98d ago (Edited 98d ago )

These games that are coming out now are build with HDR in mind,some of these games listed don't even make sense as they were PS3 titles.(remember how 3D was basically the same thing with the PS3?)

rainslacker98d ago

I'm not impressed with the X because it's not X'ey enough. Too little X. Plus, X is a variable of unknown quantification for function analysis and processing, and is a lame marketing moniker which is meant to attract the feeble minded. At least the Pro denotes that maybe it's a professional system....which it isn't, so yeah, I guess it's not pro enough. They say everything seems cooler with an X at the end. Since it's not MS 10th console, the X is pure marketing.

Anyhow, both are comments are stupid. What does not pro enough, or not X enough even mean? It's just a name.

SpinalRemains13898d ago

You're upset about old games? To each their own I suppose. I prefer new games myself.

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freshslicepizza99d ago

Oh, so you still think the Xbox One X was a reaction to the PS4 Pro?

RegorL99d ago

Yes, it is almost certainly so.
What do you think?

Microsofts whole E3 announcement 2016 was a panic reaction to PS4 Pro. But they had nothing to really show
- the motherboard was CGI rendered

But they had certainly worked on it since the first rumours of PS4 Pro earlier that year (possibly even late 2015)

blackblades99d ago

Pretty much, pro is a midgen nothing to big because it's just midgen. X on the other hand ms went all out for a midgen why, sounds desperate.

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XtaZ99d ago

We all know the Pro was a reaction to the Scorpio. The Scorpio rumors started before the Pro and the proof is all over the internet, and let's not forget all the N4G articles about the upgraded Xbox rumor where PS fanboys rage-circle-jerked and said they would never support a company if they made a mid-gen upgrade (Funny how fast opinion changed the second the Pro rumor appeared, lol) Sony feeling they had to create the Pro when they had both the sales and power advantage made zero sense unless they felt threatened.

MasterCornholio99d ago (Edited 99d ago )

@XtaZ

"We all know the Pro was a reaction to the Scorpio. The Scorpio rumors started before the Pro and the proof is all over the internet, "

You really can't develop and release a new console in a span of a few months so they can't be true.

"PS fanboys rage-circle-jerked and said they would never support a company if they made a mid-gen upgrade"

Didn't people say that the Pro is selling horribly? So how is it being supported by consumers if the base models outsells it by a vast amount?

What's with your obsession with Sony fanboys?

hamburgerhill99d ago

"You really can't develop and release a new console in a span of a few months so they can't be true."

No, but the pro is such a minor upgrade that I wouldn't be surprised if it were one of the actual release PS4 designs. Sony watched the MS announcement and went with the cheaper more affordable PS4.

"Didn't people say that the Pro is selling horribly? So how is it being supported by consumers if the base models outsells it by a vast amount? "

Now that's some serious spin.