With the recent announcement of Fortnite Battle Royale launching next week, well ahead of its direct rival, we look at the ramifications this could have on similar games, and the industry.
Yes.... desperate sellout developers. So pathetic. Everybody trying to get a slice of the pie.
care to explain why Pubg isn't goign after the Culling? or H1Z1 king of the hill? or is it just because Fortnite is their only competition? and the fact its free to play which will most likely take alot of sales away from it on Xbox?
Because the same person who made the mod on arma is the same person that is responsible for all the other battle royal game modes
Before there was unreal tournament there was quake 3 arena. One begets the other and so on.
Yes, playerunknown did work on the Arma mod and H1Z1, but he didn't own any or the design or genre, if anything what bluehole studio is accusing Epic of doing is what he did. he took the concept and gameplay of H1Z1 and made it into PUBG, so why are they being so hypocritical about it? why didn't they go after GTA V when they introduced a battle royale genre? should the creators of the Battle Royale book go after the hunger gam,es creator and PUBG as well?
No. Bluehole got way too comfortable with PUBG even so that they added MT when they promised they will only add them after the game officially launchs We NEED a competition to PUBG so bluehole get off their fat asses and use all the money to make a better game Competition is GOOD for us and having one dev controlling a genre is BAD for us (just look at cod) With all the success PUBG had I expect more contents,maps,weapons etc. But instead we got even less than what we original had. Parts on the game were ripped from it to be resold to us as loot crate.
Or the fact that they licensed a game engine which also gives Epic the right to use their game in any way they see fit for promotional use or however they see fit. Im sure they didnt read the fine print
their agreement to use the game engine gives Epic the right to use any game created on their engine for marketing purposes for anything Epic does, or with any of their affiliates or partners. This is explicitly laid out in the license agreement, even the free version.
No more then two games sharing a CTF mode. PUBG is basically DayZ, H1Z1, and a few other games. It may be the biggest game o it's type, but ultimately you cannot copyright a game mode.
They never said they are copyrighting a game mode. They have no problems with competition. The problem is that Epic games is not making a unique battle royale game, its basically a copy.
no its actually because epic states that they help out any indie pendant company with delivering their game to its fullness, and are now seen as taking an idea from the independent developer and using it in their own, thus taking away some support from Pubg to instead promote their own. they are also worried that any new features or improvements made to the unreal engine in terms of battle royal games (100 simultaneous players) might have priority for their own games before going to the 3rd parties.
PUBG doesn't have destructible houses, crafting materials & construction options for building, jump pads, traps, making a bridge across a chasm or a lake fortress ect, calling it a copy is disingenuous.
Epic doesn't have to make a unique battle royale game.
But Fortnite isnt a carbon copy of PUBG, there are no vehicles, you can't aim down sights, the scavenging and building mechanic alone adds something unique and different from PUBG, along with the level of destructibility.
O right a copy you say. So if I load up PUBG right now I can craft a wall on the fly to take cover yer? Thought not.
So you can construct and destroy buildings in pubg??? Didn't think so. Get off your high horse. And pubg copied from a lot of other games. Should H1Z1 go after pubg then?? And don't give me this crap about he worked on H1Z1. Cuz SO did a bunch of other ppl. It wasn't just him
Epic's responsibility to developers is to provide an engine that allows them to deliver their games, and provide all support as neccesarry to do so. It isn't to never compete with those same developers, and Epic never promised that they would not use similar game modes or take good ideas and make their own content from it.
A copy of Pubg? No it isn't.
Yeah really. Nobody owns a game style.
Fortnite does copy a lot from PUBG (who's copied from H1Z1 and Arma), but they're adding a major mechanic that isn't in PUBG... base building. I haven't had the time to make much of anything playing solo but there's enough of a spin with that alone to differentiate between the two as being their own games. If PUBG wants to complain, they need to call out The Culling and GTA for similar modes. That or quit being coy about it coming to the PS4 and hurry up.
Playerunknown is the one who worked with H1Z1 and was the original maker of the battle royale mod for ArmA 3. So hes really only copying himself.
Did Battlefield go after Call of Duty? Did NBA live go after NBA 2k? Do we need to keep going?
Does dark souls go after nioh? Does MOH go after COD? Does tomb raider go after uncharted? Does street fighter go after mortal Kombat? Does gta go after watch dogs? Does GT go after forza? Does halo go after killzone? Does smash bros go after PSASBR? Does GoW go after Bayonetta? Does monster hunter go after toukiden?
Bayonetta takes inspiration on japanese action games like devil may cry it has nothing to do with gow
@whiteblue I completely forgot about DMC lol But still. my point is they haven't sued anyone
They act like the Battle Royal formula is something from the last few years
Damn EA should go after MS for Forza 7 having cars on tracks like NFS. Or Nintendo should go after Super Lucky tale that Fox swipes his tale like Tanuki suit Mario! Bungie should go after SW Battlefront 2 this fall too! What's with running around in armored suits and shooting lasers its too similar! /S
How can people sit here and say EPIC is not making something unique? This is is fun as hell... Building a base holding it up with a squad.. I find this much more fun the PUBG... Pub just need to stop getting big headed. I stop playing reason why no hard core ranking system.. No LvLing system.. I also think H1z1 is better to
I was wondering if Fortnite is good. That's much more significant than where they pinched ideas from. How's the store/monetisation?
its better now than when it first came out, unfortunately, once you've played the battle royal version,. something will feel "off" with the normal game, from the movement speed and limited storage, at least from my own experience. im enjoying the battle royal mode more than the normal mode
Yeah, too bad team play isn't allowed in the mode though. It even states that team play is a bannable offense.
just in solo mode, squads is coming in 3 days
Not even close...
Other games have battle royale, even gta v (not not 100 players there)
Now devs will thinking twice if they still wanna do xbox timed exclusive. Battle royale free to play on ps4, then the rest of fornite. PS4 players were still waiting on h1z1 and the forrest.... so when PUBG comes out they may shun it,lol Anyway, battle royale on fortnite is fun! and since its free, I actually dont mind not getting PUBG regardless of the platform!
Exactly, this is the main thing bugging Bluehole, Fortnite is free and available on more platforms and that scares them
its more so to do with the fact of how epic supports their 3rd party independent developers, and they are worried that Epic will be focusing on improving the engine for their own use of battle royale modes before it being implemented in for 3rd party devs.
i understand that, but i dont see that happening as Epic would most likely be breaching contract and could get sued.
I really don't think Bluehole is scared of anything. I disagree with them being hotheaded regarding Fortnite, but they literally have nothing to worry about lol. Game is absolutely crushing it on Steam, haven't seen anything grow this fast and considering it's still early access is crazy. PUBG doesn't even have to come to consoles to remain bigger than most games out or coming out. You don't dethrone DOTA 2 and CSGO and worry about Fortnite. I think people are underestimating how well this is gonna do on Xbox especially with Microsoft backed advertisements when it gets closer to launch. Won't be as big as the PC counterpart but it's gonna be quite massive.
@Goldby And that's irrational, because every technology that Epic makes is available in the commercial version of Unreal Engine. They don't hold it back for their own benefit. They also have agreements that technology that others make using their engine can also be included in UE. If Epic improves the engine for battle royale, then it will benefit anyone who uses the engine. If the dev has a problem with that, then they need to get over it, because they seem like they're being irrational about what the end results will be here. While Epic may be first to get something out with any tech they make to improve this particular thing, it's just the way it is because they would be working on the tech to begin with, and that tech would be implemented with the development of the games themselves. This hasn't been a problem since UE came into existence. Epic constantly makes new tech for it's own games, then rolls it out once it's working. More often than not, such improvements to the engine are rolled out to devs as soon as they're deemed ready, often before their own game is ever released. If Bluehole has a problem with this, then they can create their own tech to improve things. Epic is in no way obligated to provide for the devs first. They are only responsible on providing tech for the engine, and Bluehole is free to use the engine with what it has or not. Whatever Epic may create in the future is not Bluehole's concern, nor can any legal action be taken against Epic, because the TOS to use UE do not include that tech be made solely for the devs themselves. All Epic agrees to is to support whatever tech is included at the time of agreement, as well as anything that comes out during the terms of said contract.
@Rain, im just goign off of what i've read during the "clarification" part of this situation.
I don't think this issue has anything to do with, nor will it have any effect on devs considerations of exclusivity.
I should also add it still depends on the developer and what they say and do, cause look at Lawbreakers...heh
To be honest, going free2play was a smart move and will be great getting a lot of people into Battle Royal. Also being already on console is a big plus. I just watched a match and it doesn't look like something I would enjoy with all the crafting etc. but their sure is a group out their eager to play it.
Competition. Deal with it. PUBG is a solid game but it has some issues needed to address and must continue to add new ideas to stand out.
PUBG can improve but fact is there is no better alternative to PUBG yet. Fortnite is good and I recommend everyone plays that before PUBG, it will help for PUBG.
I actually enjoy FN battle royale more than PUBG
What you guys neglect is that this has nothing to do with the game it self - it has something to do with Epic and the way they have done business. They've been helping out Bluehole with UE4 to create their game just to end up putting the exact same ideas into their own game without letting Bluehole know. They also used a lot of the same principles for things like the inventory. They should have let Bluehole know from the beginning that they where also working on their version of Battle Royal and implement some of the ideas and layouts from PUBG into Fortnite. This is what it all comes down to. This is not about Battle Royal game mode in general or the fact that they share the same genre.
I thought PUBGwas angry because they were using Battlegrounds as a way to advertise Fortnite. Was that bit fake news? I could see them slashing out for that
The only thing that has come out of of this is that Fortnite has had a load of free publicity thanks to player unknown. Honestly, how many people are now playing Fortnite now thanks to this? And how many people have suddenly just heard about this game? If PUBG hadn't come out in full retard mode then Fortnite would not be as high profile as it is right now
They really aren't. Anyone who thinks that, has no business discussing games. The gaming industry has always been a pile of ideas which people copied and borrowed from. Some turn out better because of it and some turn out worse. Bluehole should stop acting like 5 year olds and just make a better game than the opposition. You can't own your own genre, so stop crying about it and just make a better offer than what Fortnite is doing. Seriously, the gaming industry has become so pathetic in certain aspects. (P.s. I'm a huge fan of PUBG, it's fun as hell. Just in case people think i'm hating on the game itself, which isn't what i'm doing.)
I wish more people would copy horde mode. This is such a non-issue that it's pathetic. "Any press is good press" is no longer sound advice imo.
No. They choose the direction of the game. It's our choice to either enjoy the direction or not. Stop playing if you don't. It's a business they will see if the direction is right by the way they are conducting themselves.
Nope! You cant trademark a game genre. AND Battlegrounds was NOT the first to create such a thing. So please, stop this nonsense and get back to gaming. The answer is no. This style of gaming was not created by any one person, so anyone can use it. There's dozens of hero shooters and FPS. I don't see anyone complain about that.
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