As the Nintendo Switch continues to attract major third-party support - those developers (and Nintendo) need to work on managing expectations - in particular when it comes to other consoles and their versions of games.
Aye, made some pretty valid points. Nintendo and the devs/publishers are often in a no win situation with some people. Tell everyone what's missing and some will say "ha, told you! Inferior port!" Don't tell them and they get accused of obfuscating the details. Only thing I didn't agree with was that EA have been very upfront about FIFA not running on Frostbite and they were cited as one company not being totally upfront with the end user. In fact they've pretty much come out and said what we'll get and what we won't and to be honest I'm not gonna miss The Journey! Oh and one point for the article writer. You wrote "Everyone from Digital Foundry through to IGN and Gamespot couldn’t come to a conscientious on what they were playing." I think the word you were looking for was consensus, not conscientious. Good work though. Now I'm off to play Steamworld Dig 2! Edit: had an extra word in there I didn't need!
Hell yeah, Steamworld Dig 2! http://share.gifyoutube.com...
@FullmetalRoyale So far, so awesome! Really reminds me of DigDug but way better and with way more mechanics.
I prefer collaborative efforts like the one Ubisoft did with Nintendo on Mario + Rabbids* . . This way, devs can produce more 'unique' titles for the Switch. I appreciate the odd wins we can get in the form of Doom for example. . But I'd prefer third_parties make games tailored to the switch like * than to port their usual games to the Switch. If there's a lot of compromise involved in a port . . I'd say it isn't worth it. No need to force it. There are three other platforms to play their games on.
Yup completely agree. They should really do more collabs, there's plenty of unused IP's to do it with too but the problem is whether companies are looking to put that extra effort and actually be able to make something original with Nintendo IP's.
I think it's more likely you see titles like Mario Rabbids then simply ports. The extra effort isn't necessary for PC, PS4 or XONE. Nintendos install base needing this only further proves that the community is basically 99% Nintendo diehards. You'll see some go the Ubisoft route, but you'll see many steer clear. Even Ubisoft is now very selective on the content they put on Nintendo Hardware.
I definitely agree with this. However it's obvious that not every developer can set a team or teams aside to specifically collaborate with Nintendo. In that case I think Nintendo should reach out to the devs and offer assistance or allow the devs to put in easter eggs or Nintendo relate costumes into the games.
Agreed. I think the way Nintendo get solid support by third-party is simply through collaboration like you see with Ubisoft. Ubisoft licenses out Nintendo characters while selling a lot of units and Nintendo collects the fees from the licensing.
If the ports can work, why not? Not every game will be possible, like Elder Scrolls 6, GTA 6, or RDR2, but it got Disgaea 5 and a few other niche PS4 games on board, including the upcoming Dragon Quest Builders 2. Disgaea 5 is said to be a good port. Dragon Quest Builders fans will find a quality portable experience on Switch, even though it will play better on PS4.
Disgaea 5 is also a game that might as well be a PlayStation 3 game too.
Well said. While I appreciate ports of stuff like Doom, and completely disagree with the idiots out there that are trying to downplay the Switch version for not being 30fps as if it somehow ruins it [ You know who you are. Go play it elsewhere if it matters that much to you, instead of b****ing about it here. No one wants to hear that sort of narrow-minded BS.], there's still no denying that games built from the ground up for a system will always have a better chance at being technically superior games, compared to ports, just due to having fewer issues of compatibility with the tech.
It's perfectly valid criticism. You need to calm down. People declared that the Switch is simply not that less powerful than the PS4 and the XB1 when they heard about this port. "It's just that 3rd parties are all lazy!" That was ridiculous to those who have common sense and this port ended up proving the exact opposite. 720p 30FPS with lower settings is a huge difference, obviously. This doesn't mean that its not worth playing or anything (especially from a handheld perspective). It will still be a lot of fun and it is amazing that a game like this can be played portably, although if you play it in docked mode you may as well just play it elsewhere - especially as there's also no multiplayer functionality. And are you actually being serious? You attacked 3rd party games almost religiously (claiming they were ALL terrible) before the Switch came out so don't start about people being narrow-minded. Don't even bother denying it.
@Lucas All third parties? REALLY? So you saw me dissing Warrior's Orochi 3 Hyper? Sonic Colors/Lost World? Rayman Legends? No, you didn't. Because I didn't ever say all third parties were terrible. I could go on. Quite easily. Especially if we include indies into the mix. You need to get your facts checked before you go accusing me with slanderous bullshit; just because I had an issue with how many of the mainstream AAA's did their games on Wii U doesn't mean I was narrow-minded enough to attack all of them by claiming they were ALL terrible. Don't even TRY pulling that crap on me. It's obvious that I'm going to deny the words of a liar, so don't go telling me what I should and shouldn't do. You bring the denials and curb-stomps upon yourself. Also, there IS multiplayer functionality in DOOM: It's an optional download. And if the specs are such a huge concern then there's really no point in playing it anywhere other than PC.
@Wonder-you said way too much stuff negatively about third-party developers to really try to backtrack , you kind of dug yourself into this. Literally, all anyone needs to do is look at your post in the past or even any of the blogs you've posted and we could see the type of foul language and negative attitude you have towards third parties.
"Now, however, the Switch is practically drowning in third-party offerings." Let's not get ahead of ourselves
That part made me laugh, lol.
They're probably #1 including indies as a form of non-first-party support, or #2 including the full list of 300+ Switch games, which also lists some titles that aren't released yet but are confirmed to be coming. Either way, they aren't exactly wrong. The only form of outside support it's missing is a bunch of mainstream multiplats, which don't make up the center of the gaming universe unless you just REALLY like playing through another Assassin's Creed or Call of Duty.
What an idiotic comment. Since games like Resident Evil 7, Project Cars 2, The Evil Within 2, South Park, Red Dead Redemption 2, Monster Hunter:World, Prey, Destiny 2, Need for Speed Payback, Injustice 2, etc are multiplats and they are not confirmed to be coming to the Switch they are obviously not real games. Unless they happen to get ported to the Switch, that is. Then they're great, lol. How sad. You're whining about people comparing Doom on the Switch (no mp, 720p 30FPS) to other platforms and you have been telling them that THEY are narrow-minded. And then, you say that multiplat games are pretty much just AC and COD. When are you going to stop spouting this crap? You haven't changed your tune one bit from last gen. What you're saying would have applied to Doom a week or 2 ago, i.e. it's fanboy bullshit.
You want idiotic comments, Lucas? Look at your own. You and all the rest have been going around downplaying literally EVERYTHING that comes to Switch, even the Nintendo titles. Me? All I've said is that AAA multiplats aren't the end-all of third party support. That's not a lie and I've never ONCE said they aren't real games or don't matter, even if I don't plan on getting some of them. Heck, even though I prefer the other Monster Hunter games, I STILL plan on giving Worlds a spin. I doubt I can say the same for you. You probably don't even OWN a Switch, and I would not put it past you to have LAUGHED at anyone who has said they want to continue seeing the series on Nintendo consoles. What I'm saying applies to what I SAY it applies to. You don't get to decide that, and you ESPECIALLY don't get to accuse ME of fanboy bullshit when all I ever see YOU doing is waltzing around taking the piss out of any Nintendo fan you can get your trollish claws into. We're done here. Just stop talking to me if you hate my opinions so much. It would save the both of us a lot of headaches and would make you look a lot better as a result, especially compared to now. PS: Do your damned research. DOOM DOES HAVE MULTIPLAYER. It's a separate download, but IT IS THERE. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. *mic drop, walks out*
Wait huh? How did you come to the conclusion that they were number one? By default Nintendo is actually the lease supported of all four of the major platforms from PC Playstation Xbox and clearly the switch PlayStation 4 before it even released had over 1,000 games being developed for it, Xbox One literally had hundreds of games in development for it before it released before we even talked about third-party support that was simply from independent games ... No. I mean you're talking about the only company that has a massive list of games that are not being supported by it from Assassin's Creed to Far Cry to Destiny shadow of War the division Ghost Recon Rainbow Six Grand Theft Auto Mass Effect Mirror's Edge Battlefield Deus Ex OverWatch Dying Light Tomb Raider etc The list is so gargantuan I'm not even sure how you come to the conclusion there number one with the lease top supporting franchises. That might need the most insane claim I've ever heard anyone ever come up with on this website. I understand you like the switch but dear God I'm also pretty sure you know basic math. You don't need to hate the switch to know for fact it does not have anywhere near the same number of support that the other platforms have , its last place by default. And please stop playing the victim ,this has nothing to do with downplaying ,this has everything to do with simple math. Your claim is mathematically and factually and objectively or wrong. That has nothing to do with downplaying anything because we cannot subjectively believe the switch has more support because that is a factual number, that is not a subjective believe. I mean what you're talking about can actually be calculated can you actually really prove they real list it's number one? I mean what you're talking about can actually be calculated can you actually really prove with a real list it's number one? What you're saying is not an opinion it is grounded in fact and it is factually wrong.... I can't tell you that the PlayStation 4 is number one in third-party support because by default that is incorrect if you consider the PC has an almost infinite number of titles that come to it that may not ever come to consoles. That does not mean I hate PlayStation 4 or Xbox one that does not mean I'm done playing either the systems or anything like that that simply me telling you an objective fact that you could look up simply by the number count of games.
Lol Exactly the biggest problem I have with people who keeps saying this is there not even talking about the game series that stopped coming to Nintendo. If you're talking about several games being added but you're not talking about a couple dozen that were removed it doesn't really make any sense.
As a fan, I wouldn't say that they're drowning in offers. The situation is a welcome improvement. Maybe there's a good dampening rain, but no drowning.
Let's be honest, the people complaining about Switch ports being inferior or the Switch being week are those who don't own or intend to own the system. Devs should not worry about those voices, just keep bringing great games to the Switch and people will buy it.
Yeah, it's like games coming over to the switch somehow impacts them even though they don't own or even plan on owning a switch. These guys just like to trash anything nintendo.
These ports are for those who only have a switch though. Anyone who has an xbox or ps4 or pc can pick up a better version of doom for £10. The switch version is £45.
I don't only have a Switch, yet I'd pick up the Switch version of these games over PS4 and even my PC. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. I don't care that the Switch version is more expensive. I can take my gaming sessions on the go, or if the TV isn't free. No other console gives me an out of the box solution for that.
Absolutely agreed The only people I see buying this are those who don't even have a real choice in the matter. I don't even see the point in playing something on the go if it also means lowering of the overall quality of performance in missing features. Anybody who owns a switch but also other systems to play this game and chooses the worst version clearly likes the concept of portability more than the actual game itself. I don't play games just to play them on the go , I actually played them to have the best experience. I don't really understand what's the point of bragging that I'm on a train playing a game if it's also running at the worst possible performance with missing content and 540p and lagging on 30fps and even dipping below that. No thanks. I'll play the quality version on PC or PS4.
Disagree.. I own a Switch and there is no way I am buying those crappy versions of games I already have.
That's fine, but not everyone shares your viewpoint. Everyone is free to use their systems however they want.
Exactly I'm looking to buy one, but I have no clue why I would get the worst version if I already own a PlayStation 4. It's like I own a cell phone too but why on Earth would I buy bio shock for a damn phone when the best of version is on other platforms I already own? 😂😂😂 People seriously need to get over the stupid gimmicky novelty of playing something portably if it also means lower performance , lower resolution and missing features. I mean the same people that might as well never played Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and just waited Ten Years Later to play it on a cell phone for the "awwwwwwwww kool it's on a portable bro" I'm starting to wonder if these people like the concept of portability more than the actual game itself lol I don't understand anybody who could like a game series but also want to play the worst version with missing content.
Yup! Agreed. The over expectations are self-inflicted when it should be about enjoying the gameplay that is possible. If you want Doom to look as good as it should, play it on the PS4 Pro or the Xbox One X. If you want Doom with the convenience of a handheld, Switch is it - just don't expect it to look like it does on the other two consoles. The idea of an 'inferior version' does not come into it. Last time around everyone was complaining about the lack of third-party support for the Wii U. The Switch appears to be getting that but to be honest, I and so many gamers just want the console for the Nintendo exclusives. The rest is just a bonus.
The must important is being able to play on the go, it can never be compared to the ps4 or xbox that are miles ahead in term of power because they are home consoles. Playing doom docked is very bad because all the detail is low and last gen ,but playing portable it should be amazing!!!!!
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