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Why I Need Xbox to Succeed

Player 2 looks at why the Xbox needs to be a successful business in the world of gaming and how important that success is.

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FallenAngel198481d ago

Microsoft can start by releasing quality games all throughout the year more consistently rather than waiting towards the end of the year

MegamanXXX81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

That's going to be difficult for them until they invest in more first party studios

Ghost_of_Tsushima81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

“That's going to be difficult for them until they invest in more first party studios”

What happened to the $1 billion invested into 1st party in 2013?

They won’t give 343i the freedom to make a game outside of Halo.

The won’t let The Coalition make a game outside of Gears.

These studios could bring the next big thing. But you have to give them a chance.

Look what Guerrilla Games achieved when giving the chance. I’m not saying it’s a sure fire plan but you’ve got to try.

Phil also can’t wrap his head around good single player games. He’s all about GaaS. That needs to change.

JaguarEvolved81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

Only fanatics needs Microsoft to be successful when you have other gaming companies doing a way better job in gaming. Some people are very gullible and willfully ignorant.

Remember the lies told by Microsoft like the power of the cloud makes the Xbox one a lot more powerful than any consoles available. 1 billion dollars invested in first party games. Dx12 advancements to make games perform and look a lot better than a lot of games.

A lot of silly gamers have convinced themselves that without 4k a game is now rubbish and having no exclusive titles unique to your gaming platform is very good.

Goldby81d ago

@Infected.

MS is working on their version of a Horizon game, there was a job posting for it a few months ago

Kingthrash36081d ago

Infected ...
They spent that 1 billion plus another 1.5 billion on mojang....and did absolutely nothing with it.

darthv7280d ago

"They won’t give 343i the freedom to make a game outside of Halo." interestingly enough the name 343i is named for 343 Guilty Spark... a halo reference for a studio tasked with making halo games... imagine that.

"The won’t let The Coalition make a game outside of Gears." technically they have made 1 Gears game and it is Gears 4. Gears ultimate is a remaster project but the bulk of the work was already done for them by Epic. they just cleaned it up for the xbo.

come on infected... you got to do better than that. Hell, i can pose the same thing back at sony. They wont let Polyphony Digital make games other than GT. And i would LOVE to see PD make a new Omega boost. Guerilla did a fine job taking a break from Killzone to make horizon but now they may get stuck making horizon games moving forward and leaving killzone fans wondering if there will be a KZ4.

some times studios get shoehorned into making games in a series because they are good at it. I too wish some of these companies would branch out and take more risks but then again i am glad they continue to do so well on what they know that it means keeping a series or franchise alive with new content and ideas.

FinalFantasyFanatic80d ago

@JaguarEvolved,

True, but you need competition to keep everyone honest, otherwise they drag their feet and we'd get terrible games/consoles/handhelds. Microsoft have really dicked up this gen, not because it's console has bad hardware, but because of the decisions surrounding it. If they didn't do reasonably well last gen, PS4 may have not been as good as it is this gen. Even the Nintendo had to pick up their game after their failure that was the WiiU, it's Microsoft's turn to step it up now.

TheSaint80d ago (Edited 80d ago )

Games MS, games.

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FallenAngel198481d ago

Microsoft also need to handle their internal first party studios even better. The majority of them work on only one franchise. This even caused their previous star developer, Bungie, to leave.

0Day81d ago

Yeah seriously, thank god they moved to Activision, to continue to work on only one franchise.....

And here's your sign.

FallenAngel198480d ago

It's still different from having to work only on Halo for the rest of their entire existence

Bungie can still make another new IP once their partnership is up with Activision

trumpwonstopcrying80d ago

Even if Microsoft leaves the gaming industry at some point I would expect that Amazon or possibly even Apple would enter the market as the 3rd competitor. Amazon would be the ideal choice because Jeff Bezos loves acquisitions and I feel 1st party game studios would be on his list. Also a prime membership may already be enough to cover the cost for whatever online service they would have.

FallenAngel198480d ago

@ Trump

Amazon bought Double Helix and has done f all with them. They aren't as dedicated to videogames as they are with just selling them.

Apple already tried to enter the console market and failed with Pippin. Nowadays they'd be complacent with their iOS platform than to make another dedicated gaming platform

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Woolly_81d ago

The Xbox One has already sold more than Systems that were considered failures in the past: Vita, Wii_U DreamCast. .

And guess what? They haven't abandoned ship, unlike the systems I mentioned above. There are games lined_up for the next 6 months. New hardware is being added to the family as well..

Phil just got promoted. .

What is the benchmark for success? I think only MS can give a meaningful answer for their product. Whatever their goal and expectations are for Xbox.

The article is really just talking about the need for competition.
The comments above me are speaking as though the Xbox One failed lol. And it's the same usual party as well ^_^

Atticus_finch81d ago

Outselling systems that never managed to sell alot, Amazing achievement. Abandoned ship? But the Vita has had more exclusives coming out this year at the end of his life cycle than another console in the middle of its life cycle. By your own logic would that make the other console a sunken ship.

InTheLab81d ago

I'm guessing Indies and a ton of niche Japanese titles?

And more than any other console mid cycle?

Come on, dude....

Woolly_81d ago

What would be an achievement? pulling the plug and not making any effort?

They could have folded under the pressure from the Media but no. . They stuck to their guns and are still pushing to improve despite being written off for ever move they make. .

The gears are always shifted towards areas they're still working on.

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LP-Eleven81d ago

When your system is just ahead of "failures", and that's the best you can come up with, it's obvious that there are problems. But really, the Xbox's issue actually has an easy fix: they need more in-house games. Something we can't get from a competing system nor PC.

Woolly_81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

"best you can come with"

or maybe that's exactly the way things are. . There are 'problems' with every console. None are without flaws.

"They need more in-house games"

Not everyone can be like Nintendo. That is not an easy feat. If it were so simple, Sony wouldn't need third_party for games like NIOH, NEIR, YAKUZA BLoodborne. . If you're talking strictly in_house, look at the gap between the releases of titles like Uncharted and Horizon. . . What would you be playing without third_parties?

in_house titles are not cooked up overnight . . actually I like that they aren't showing us CG trailers of games years away . . you would be a fool if you think MS aren't working on more games behind the scenes.. Crying everyday won't get them to spill their guts anytime soon.

kneon81d ago

That's not an easy fix.

Developing AAA games takes years. Developing a studio to the point where it can put out AAA games that compete with the best in the business takes even longer.

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crazyCoconuts81d ago

Totally agree with Wooly. Us enthusiasts like to watch the race like a sport, and sure MS is getting lapped, but that doesn't mean they're not successful. And most Xbox players are just happily playing their games like anyone else and have no intention of jumping ship as far as I can tell. Xbox is fine. Not great, but fine.

LP-Eleven81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

I'm aware that in-house titles are not made overnight, but that's irrelevant because that isn't what I said. It needs to happen. It was promised years ago, yet, the input has been rather low. Next, the part(s) about Nintendo and Sony are also irrelevant. We're talking about Microsoft. Neither of the other two have issues with exclusives.

The Xbox's exclusive output is lacking. No walking around that. And it can be fixed once titles start releasing only for it. Right now, there isn't any title on the horizon that is only coming to Xbox One. To me, for a gaming brand, that is a problem.

Woolly_81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

When I make a point you can't debate . . It's 'irrelevant'. . I see how it is now lol.

maybe you should come to terms with reality . . so you stop making unrealistic demands. MS are not doing titles for Xbox ONE only. They are supporting both Xbox & PC. Otherwise you'll find yourself regurgitating the same crap over and over again.

Xbox is clearly not for you so a discussion about Xbox with you is unreasonable. Pointless.

" Right now, there isn't any title on the horizon that is only coming to Xbox One. To me, for a gaming brand, that is a problem"

It's a problem for you alone. . . and that's okay.

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rainslacker80d ago

@Woolly

So...what exactly can we look forward to on Xbox for the next few years? No need to list the few games we know about, but what is there after that? Best place to play the best looking games on a new console if one wants to spend the money? Some more features which may or may not be that appealing? More BC titles?

While I don't expect you to list potential games that may come in the future, what exactly has MS done to instill so much faith in you that they are going to be doing more than they are now anytime soon? Even if Spencer is to be beleived about green lighting some new games, how long before those come, and why be excited about them now without knowing a single thing about said games?

It's easy to get excited when companies have a track record of delivering, but MS has driven their track record into the ground. It started last gen with Mattrick's Kinect vision, and while it had an upswing at the start of this gen, it took a quick nose dive after QB to MS lowest point in history. This isn't even just a bad holiday. This isn't even just a bad year. It's been almost 2 years since MS had what would be an acceptable output.

At the start of this gen, Sony was raked over the coals by MS fans when they were releasing more games in a year than MS will release, or has released for the past year and a half, and for the next year and a half. Yet the faith in MS continues, despite never once having anywhere near the track record that Sony, or even Nintendo have when it comes to providing games for their user base.

If these Xbox fan boys held MS accountable for their games output like they did for Sony which they don't really care about, then maybe MS would actually provide them with more. Doubtful actually, but at least Spencer could spin his way out of their terrible output by constantly deflecting to "most powerful console".

CoinOrc80d ago

@wooly
I have an Xbox One and I have been extremely disappointed by MS. I haven't turned it on since I played quantum break last year. A lot of Xbox One owners have a problem with its lack of exclusives. That's why Phil spencer and Aaron Greenburg constantly need to defend the Xbox One's lack of exclusives. Even Ryan McCaffrey, ign's Xbox editor, acknowledges this problem.

Chevalier79d ago

Niko I wouldn't worry about it. Clearly Wooly is not one for FACTS. Have you noticed every single argument he has made has been some hypothetical that has no basis in reality? Therefore it can't be proved wrong. Classic diversion tactic. Like oh MS clearly has more games in the works?! Uh.... Ok?! So does Nintendo and Sony, who are not sitting on their laurels. Let's get back to reality though. Here are the facts.

The Switch has MORE exclusives in 6 months then ALL of Xbox One output for BOTH last year and this. They also have MORE coming next year as well! FACT.

Woolly also suggest what would PS4 be without 3rd party exclusives?! Wtf? Why are we even discussing that?! PS4 does NOT have that problem Xbox does. FACT.

BOTH Switch and PS4 are destroying Xbox in BOTH hardware and software sales. FACT.

Xbox had ONE major exclusive in 11 months! FACT.

He also suggests all these games on the vita and PS4 are niche, yeah and what are most Xbox games? Niche. FACT. Recore, Super Lucky Tale, State or Decay, Quantum Break and the like will not or have not lit up sales charts. That's the majority won't even break a couple million. FACT.

Those 'niche' games like Nier Automata, Persona 5, Nioh for example each shifted a couple million each. FACT. Yet those games like Recore, Quantum Break, SoD, Halo Wars etc how bad are their sales? Yeah thought so.

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threefootwang81d ago

@ Woolly

Don't worry about the haters. They're in full damage control because, despite what they say, are clearly threatened by the One X. Which is funny because they honestly have no reason to be, it's competition is pumping out great games too. Why can't we all just get along?

Woolly_81d ago

Depending on my mood. . I choose to indulge them. . ^_^

Clearly they aren't satisfied with their purchase if they're looking over the fence on a daily basis.

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LP-Eleven81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

You haven't made any points that aren't debatable, Woolly. You just steered the conversation to talk about everyone BUT Xbox. I don't care to talk about Nintendo and Sony when that's not what the discussion is about and they aren't the ones struggling with exclusives.

Bottom line, there's nothing wrong with admitting that Microsoft has an issue with releasing new titles only on Xbox One. The author wants Xbox to succeed. As do I. That's one of the things they need to work on.

thisismyaccount81d ago

"What is the benchmark for success?"

- open up explorer or winkey+r
- launch search
- search last MAUs results
- go to monday meeting, tell them MAUs x 2 = Success!

Chevalier79d ago

@Woolly
" Sony wouldn't need third_party for games like NIOH, NEIR, YAKUZA BLoodborne. . If you're talking strictly in_house, look at the gap between the releases of titles like Uncharted and Horizon. . . What would you be playing without third_parties? "

So your come back is a hypothetical? We don't need to discuss what PS4 would be without 3rd parties, that's the point! PS4 has a lot of 3rd party exclusives and Xbox does not. FACT. Not a hypothetical. Just look TGS just happened and what did we get? More Switch and PS4 exclusives. What did Xbox announce during that time? Zilch. So let's not use hypothetical garbage situations because its proving the point your against. Otherwise we could discuss how much better MS would be with good people running it instead of running it into the ground.

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seanpitt2381d ago (Edited 81d ago )

My fist ever console was the Nintendo then snes and then megadrive but I am a PlayStation guy always have been although I did by a Sega Saturn first but lets not get into that.

I would love Microsoft to do well with the xbox one x and sell millions because it's good for gaming and I think sony as had it too easy this generation. They have got lazy and have made decisions that they would of never had done if Microsoft was breathing down their neck for e.g putting the ps plus up.

Competition is good for everyone and it's good for gaming as a whole.

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