Destiny has surpassed Halo in every way possible. The gameplay is better, the story is better, the lore is better, the multiplayer is better. Bungie outdid themselves.
I'm so glad Bungie cut ties with Halo.
Halo and Destiny appear to be going in different directions. Halo 5 under performed and was seen as a general disappointment while Destiny 2 is surpassing expectations and setting the world ablaze. I just don't understand how MS can replace the talent that made the franchise and expect the same quality. Hence why Halo and Gears are no longer what they once were. Imagine if Halo, Gears, and Fable were thriving like they used to?
D2 isnt setting the world ablaze tho, early sales numbers point to selling 60% less than D1 for launch week numbers that is.
Idk about all that. Destiny 2 is what Destiny 1 should have been. Halo 5 was only a disappointment on the campaign side. The mp was a different story as most would agree it one of the mp and post launch support.
As far as I can tell...It's as bad or worse then Destiny 1 with all the corporate BS added to the game. So I doubt its much of an improvement. Apparently people hate the only raid available to for end game.
@porter Such a troll. Destiny 2 has higher player counts and more digital sales. Doesn't have the 360 and PS3 to artificially boost sales and is tng even out on pc yet. The game is a booming success.
the story of Halo was stolen from the Ringworld books anyway.
@porter D2 is a massive success actually. Especially considering D1 released on 4 platforms and D2 has yet to release on PC. Also, if u understood the financial structure you would understand that D2 is a far less costly venture than D1. D2 also released just 3 years after D1 all the meanwhile a whole other games worth of dlc launched. As well, D2 was less resource demanding considering Bungie had already laid the foundation, engine, mp/co op/game infrastructure. If u honestly expected D2 to have a bigger first few weeks than D1 u are a fool. The amount of hype and marketing behind D1 was uncanny. But D2 is selling very well on only 2 platforms and more so it's being received exceptionally well by virtually everyone.
I'm not sure what you're talking about because Halo 5 multiplayer is as good as every. Maybe the single player needs work but it still feels like Halo to me.
Sorry but D2 isn't "setting the world ablaze." I just finished the company and was HUGELY disappointed because based on the trailers I actually had high hopes for this campaign. The trailers were way better than the actual campaign. D2 is basically a D1 DLC with a 2 slapped on the end. How anyone could play that campaign and be anything but disappointed is beyond me. They obviously haven't played good campaigns such as Horizon, Halo 2/3, and Uncharted/The Last of Us.
@sircolby So the trailer was better? The trailer was made of cutscenes from the game. So somehow it magically got worse even though there was more? Oh wait. You're a destiny troll. Nevermind.
Destiny 2 is excedding expectations it is selling below expectations.
Last I checked halo 4 had an awesome single player and halo 5 had better multi player than destiney. Let's not forget about everything destiney did wrong but they are diffrent games. This is a troll article. Both games are good
Lol, the talent of bungie stayed with halo and make up 343i, bungie is a shadow of its former self. Destiny isn't even a fraction of what Halo is. Halo is massive and spans all forms of entertainment, Destiny is still just a video game, and a pretty mediocre one at that. The comments on that website are much better than here. The article is obviously trash not based on any sort of reality, and certainly pointed out.
no, D2 is better than D1 but not like everyone and there mom has it. Glad Destiny is multiplat unlike Halo (if you dont count other consoles)
I'm not the biggest Halo fanatic but even I can see that Halo with each and every iteration has seen massive improvements over its successors, some Halo's are better than others but point is Bungie put huge effort with each sequel and yes Destiny even took from Halo when it comes to perks, customization, different spartan classes etc Bungie did that with Reach 7 years back. Destiny 2 took 3 years to make? Sorry but a 3 year game should be Night and day compared to its successor no excuses. Sorry but Destiny as a franchise has very long way to go still especially when the first game didn't even have a story, one step at a time I guess.
I love HALO. I have played it since the original launched. Its the reason I have two X1s Master Chief bundles. (Yes one of the digital codes is still valid). Saying I own a few HALO books is like saying Freddy Kruger has a few issues. I have HALO loot crates stacked taller than me. But 343 has destroyed HALO. 343's main error was instead of quietly taking the reigns and overseeing the franchise, they sought to eradicate the past developers and put their own, egotistically perceived superior stamp on the game by trying to out Bungie Bungie. It is almost as if they grew tired of hearing the word "Bungie" and they went on a tirade. Suddenly it wasn't about making a game they loved but rather trying to beat Bungie. 343 sought to eradicate the Chief and install their own machination as the hero. The first rule of Special Operations is Special Forces cannot be mass produced. But 343 turned SPARTANs from rare hand selected warriors into mass produced troops where there is no selection process and anyone can be a SPARTAN. They went from professional troops entrusted with missions that determined the fate of the galaxy to high school jocks that brag about their sexual prowess. Playing HALO 5 it is easy to see the difference between the two teams. Blue Team is Bungie's creation. Quiet, determined, professional. Now look at 343's train wreck led by Locke. Ridiculous. 343 took the great multiplayer we loved and transformed it into a twitch shooing Call of HALO. I like Call of Duty for what it is but I do not want COD chocolate in my HALO peanut butter. They claim to have learned their lesson after H5 but I doubt it. They have their head up the backside of professional gaming and that will forever rob gamers of the experience they once had. Noble Team wasn't the only great HALO related entity that perished at Reach.
@thekhurg Actually there was quite a bit in the trailers that was not part of the in game cut-scenes. Did you even play the game? "So somehow it magically got worse even though there was more? " Yes...the more was the worse part. "Oh wait. You're a destiny troll. Nevermind." Oh get out of here with your idiotic fanboy drivel. I simply call it like I see it. If the game is crap I'm going to call it crap and vice versa.
*reads ridiculous comment about D2 being the next greatest thing* And then I check the user... NEVERMIND folks, carry on. Just another troll 😂
I'm amazed how Microsoft let Bungie go. Unbelievable! They should had let Bungie do what they wanted to do, which was Destiny. Microsoft could have had Destiny as a console exclusive along with the PC version.
As an exclusive it would definitely have been a system seller. D2 is amazing!
Well if you remember correctly Bungie felt stifled. They wanted to do something completely different than Halo and Microsoft wanted them to focus on Halo. They worked out a deal and left Microsoft to create something brand new and unique. "To spread their wings" so to speak. So after all that whining what do those Bungie kids come up with? Destiny. Sorry but, Destiny is not different than Halo. It is Halo with a different coat of paint. It is definitely not something unique and different than the Halo vibe. It is laughable that similarities the two games have. To make matters worst Bungie also sold their souls to Activision for the next 10 years.
I think what I get from all the comments is both Halo and Destroy are good ips some people like one over the other. For me I'm just happy to see a different type of fps games that are not cod or bf wannabes as for me there are to many of them.
They made the right choice to go multiplatform
The mulitplayer is nowhere near as good as the original halo and halo 2. There's nothing available other than 4v4. the maps are all too small. There's no capture the flag. Halo had larger matches that were a lot of fun, 8v8 CTF. Vehicles in multiplayer. Heck at this point they pretty much removed sniper rifles from multiplayer in destiny, you can use them but why bother when the maps are too small to snipe and you have to sacrifice using a rocket launcher, shotgun or fusion rifle etc... Super moves in the destiny multiplayer are a joke as well. Maybe it's better than recent halo games but not the bungie halo games.
The story for Destiny is trash and the gameplay is damn near identical.
they didn't cut ties. ms bought bungie and when bungie became successful enough to afford it, they bought themselves back but ms still owns the Halo franchise from a previous deal to make the exclusives - hence why there are still halo games. they didn't make a conscious decision to just say "hey i don't want to do halo and work with ms anymore". it was a series of business maneuvers the netted out where it did.
So are Bungie lol.
I'm so glad Bungie cut ties with Microsoft* Corrected. Although, them then partnering with Activision isn't really....you know, an evolved step to take.
it makes sense that Destiny is better than halo. After all the original vision for halo was Bungie's. Every other halo is just an imitation of that vision. No matter how much they try to improve halo, it keeps getting further and further away from that vision. Its like making copies of an original masterpiece painting. Destiny is better than halo in every way especially where it counts in the gameplay mechanics.
Sounds like a genuine, unbiased comment from someone with plenty of experience in both games......🙄
As a matter of fact it is. But even assuming its not, it doesnt make it any less true.
"Destiny is better than halo in every way especially where it counts in the gameplay mechanics." Destiny doesn't have an Icon like Master chief. MC gave Halo and MS an icon young gamers recognized and adored, including yours truly. Destiny has nothing of this sort. Granted, 343 drove that icon and the franchise to the ground to the point of near irrelevance in the shadow of BF, CoD, Battlefront and Destiny, but that doesn't mean Destiny is superior in every way.
I am and I'm not. I kinda wish they were big enough to do both, and owned it lol. But I guess they don't own anything I don't think. Anyway, it has definitely surpassed Halo in many ways. But there are still quite a few things that I wish they would bring into Destiny. First, dedicated servers. Second, this would lead to more varied PvP. Don't get me wrong PvP is good and Trials is great, but I would love more open maps with vehicles, leaderboards, custom maps etc. And I would LOVE for the Lore to be in game. Add a tab that has all the different geimoires and scan able. It is a game with amazing lore. Why isn't it in game to be referenced? And there are gripes because it's an mmo-like game and a looter. Would love more social elements etc. And they did vassalize it a bit too much this time as everything is tokens, tokens, tokens. Maybe some crafting etc. It's like they want to be the game you play 3 days a week for the next 3 yrs, not the WoW you play all day every day. They eliminated a lot of the things ppl spent a lot of time doing in D1.
Disagree. The Gameplay is much better in Halo. The way vehicles are incorporated in it, the actual gunplay is far tighter, the weapons still uniqueness purposeful. The enemies smarter and their variants more well thought out. The lore is brilliant especially if you've read the books by Greg Bear. The story was a mess in the last game though. Multiplayer: Halo is just on another level compared to Destiny's basic, slow and cumbersome, aim assist heavy PvP. There's no competition especially when compared to Warzone or BTB. Destiny's scale is good and the rpg and coop elements are what make it great. But it could be so much more than just a hub world, some strikes and raid or two.
“Destiny Has Surpassed Halo” @Septic “Disagree.” An Xbox fan disagrees Destiny has surpassed Halo. Fascinating. Destiny 2 has a better campaign than Halo 5. MP is subjective. I’m having more fun with Destiny 2 than I did Halo 5 though.
I have to agree with you, my friend. Destiny 2 is much better than Halo 5. Most importantly, Destiny character designs are great. If you remember Halo Reach Character design, you know a lot of Halo fans praise it. Edit : Halo 5 character design look like plastic toys to be honest.
"An Xbox fan disagrees Destiny has surpassed Halo. Fascinating. " A diehard Xbox hater believes otherwise. Fascinating. Also what's not so fascinating or surprising is that your reply has no substantive points to back up what you say. Not that anyone actually expects better from you. "Destiny 2 has a better campaign than Halo 5. MP is subjective" Oh and the quality of the campaign is objective? Amazing. "I’m having more fun with Destiny 2 than I did Halo 5 though." Good for you although I imagine it would be difficult to play Halo 5 on a console you apparently don't own anymore.
@The Infected. Your right that Destiny 2's story is better than Halo 5, but overall I would say that the Halo "franchise" has a much better story than Destiny. I mean Destiny 1 had virtually no story unless you when onto websites and looked for it. Multiplayer wise though I think Destiny knocks it out of the park, , not just with the adversarial aspect but also the co-op
this is when you can tell haters are just here to hate... if anyone has played Bungie's Halo and then played Destiny 2... they would immediately recognized that Destiny 2 feels very Halo'ish... Go play Halo 3/4, or Reach and then play Destiny 2. Destiny 2 feels like a tightened up and polished version of those games... And NONE of this is a bad thing...
I like Destiny 2 more than Halo 5 especially the multiplayer
What's your gamer tag? You too megamanxxx. You seem to go on and on about how owning a Xbox one would be redundant since you have a powerful pc. Well, how would you play halo 5 then?
Destiny 2's story is full of so many plot holes that I can't take it seriously. 1/3rd of the game's campaign is a fetch quest. Still miles better than Halo 5's... but lets not act like Destiny 2's is that great. Multiplayer is absolutely not subjective. Halo 5 mops the floor with Destiny 2 in the multiplayer department. I reckon that Destiny 1&2 and Halo 5 (MP) are the best first person shooters this gen, by a few miles... Though Wolfenstein has the best campaign. I don't see the need to trash one over the other.
@EmperorDalek Where are these plot holes? And be specific.
A PlayStation fan thinks Destiny has surpassed Halo. Fascinating.
A PS fan agrees that Destiny has surpassed Halo. Fascinating, indeed.
It's been said before. Bungie didn't want to keep making halo games so they went their own way and made what.... a halo-esq game of all things. SMH
@ Kribwalker Is it not possible that they owned an XB1 in the past, played Halo 5 and after MS putting almost all of their games on PC they decided that it's redundant for them to own one? I mean I haven't really seen what these folks have said about their PCs and XB1 itself, but unless they have explicitly said they've never owned an XB1, you're only really coming from a place of suspicion.
@digitalraptor There's an easy way to prove they have played it. Put there gamer tag here and let us see. I've had no problem telling people to check out my psn username when I comment on an article about a game I've played that people say I haven't. Wanna prove me wrong? There's only one way, with your gamertag
@infected "Destiny 2 has a better campaign than Halo 5. MP is subjective. I’m having more fun with Destiny 2 than I did Halo 5 though." Hmmm something seems a bit off here... "An Xbox fan disagrees Destiny has surpassed Halo. Fascinating." Oooh right. A halo and xbox hater stirring sh!t in a sensationalistic piece flaming a halo/xbox game. NO WAY lol. You're like a fly to a piece of sh!t 😂😂 Get out. Youre bad and you shpuld feel bad infected..
@DJustinUNCHAIND “A PlayStation fan thinks Destiny has surpassed Halo. Fascinating.” PlayStation and Nintendo fan. I use to be an Xbox fan. You know when we had a great Xbox games like Fable 2, Halo 3, Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts, Viva Piñata, and Project Gotham Racing. Xbox is good as dead now. No exclusives, Xbox One is weak, Xbox One X is too expensive, and the UI is still a mess. There’s just nothing interesting left.
"There’s just nothing interesting left." so.... why are you still hanging around in xbox related threads if there is nothing of interest to you?
To be fair, whichever campaign someone likes more is also subjective. Not just MP. For me, Halo stopped being Halo after Halo 3. I still like Reach quite a bit, but only for the campaign. ODST was kind of cool and introduced horde mode to Halo, which was also a lot of fun. But Halo's MP will never be as good as Halo 3, to me. And MP is what keeps people playing Halo after the campaign.
Halo 5 friendly AI are just dumb and enemy AI are less challenging. Halo 5 campaign is just mediocre.
I agree that the campaign is weak, by halo standards. Halo 5's pvp however thoroughly outclasses Destiny's very basic package which also, rather shockingly still runs on p2p. It doesn't even come remotely close to the depth and skill requirements of Halo 5's mp.
The enemy AI in Destiny 2 is pretty shocking. Halo is guilty of barely advancing the AI since the first game, but in Destiny 2 the enemies literally walk into fire they're so dumb.
How dumb can you be, they used the same Ai they have sense Halo. That's why they act the same when it comes to the Fallen and the Elites from both games
The AI in Destiny is brutal. They exhibit no actual tactics beyond occasionally going behind a corner, the AI in Halo 5 at the very least had some variation.
On Destiny 2 MP is still subjective of course. But I rather play Titanfall 2 MP.
Absolutely; this is all subjective. Each to their own. And yeah, Titanfall 2's mp is my favourite out of the lot.
LOL how surprising.
“LOL how surprising.” How surprising that you don’t actually offer anything of value. Care to talk about the comparative qualities in the AI, Story, Multiplayer, Lore of either Destiny or Halo? You haven’t even played either of the recent games yes? You don’t even know what a raid is on Destiny or a Strike? So is anything useful going to come out from you or no? I imagine not. Go on…surprise me and use your brain. Even if you haven’t played the two games, please do share with us what your opinions are on the two games and their respective strengths/weaknesses.
Uh huh. Destiny does a lot of things Halo doesn't even attempt, but there are still some things Halo does a lot better. Particularly 60 fps, server hosted, well-tuned multiplayer. Crucible isn't a patch on Halo 5 MP.
Bungies Halo will always be better then Destiny At least their Halo offers a great single player story, interesting characters, a rich lore and plenty of good gameplay variety. The co-op was well done and optional along with having a strong multiplayer. Destiny is watered down as hell compared to Halo
@-Foxtrot You’re probably the biggest Destiny hater on N4G. No offense but I can’t take anything you say about Destiny serious. Have you even played Destiny 2? It’s actually a lot of fun.
You havent played D2 then...
Call me a "hater" all you like but the thing is what a lot of people are saying, there's more then just this site. Hell check out the user scores on some sites like Metacritic...speak for themselves. I have played it, not bought it but I've played it...like I've said it's Destiny 1.5 I find part of your comment ridiculous aswell "can't take anything seriously" so even if I said something true about the game it would be false...get out of here with that shit man. I was one of the biggest people hyped up for the first game, hell I bought the £159.99 Ghost collectors edition, I got burnt and despite playing this one I see hardly anything which makes me think it's a full on sequel. Once again...Destiny 1.5, nothing more.
@The_infected "You’re probably the biggest Destiny hater on N4G. No offense but I can’t take anything you say about Destiny serious. " And why should we take you seriously? You're the biggest Xbox hater around; what value does your opinion have on Halo? Yoiu couldn't even substantiate your point in favour of Destiny in response to me. Either come up with something of substance or GTFO- at least Foxtrot's opinion had substance to it.
Finally, I agree with Foxtrot, well it's not the first time but it's rare. Halo is a much better franchise than Destiny, Destiny 2 is a corporate rehash of past Halo games minus the soul. I love Bungie but seriously when they were doing Halo every little thing had a purpose, now it seems they let Activision influence their design to make more money. lol, according to the Halo haters years ago Bungie left because they were sick of making Halo, they wanted to branch out and do something different, yet they tied their whole future to a Halo-like game with a pseudo-RPG style....news flash this ain't no The Last of Us or Sunset Overdrive, nope just Halo-Light Ship Troopers. In the end it feels like a mix bag with no clear direction. lol, just proves how big Halo is because if Bungie would have stayed with Microsoft and made this this their next game as a break for Halo, exclusive to Xbox the haters would be swearing 'meh it's just a mixed up Halo-clone...but now since its multi, oh this is better than Halo...just what I've always wanted, Halo sucks. Yeah OK, sure.