Square Enix is more focused on expanding the already-developed universe.
Thank god. However I'd rather they just move onto FF16 and at least work hard on telling a better, more structured story instead of doing a FF15 where they create a game which falls half way then have to patch it well after release with development DLC which should have been in the game. The ending was beautiful but would have made more of a memorable impact if people like Luna and co were more developed which would have made you care more.
"However I'd rather they just move onto FF16" Or FF17, who is to say that another team is not already making FF16? The way Square works, for all we know they had another team already making design and concept for FF16 before FF15 was finished. Consider FFVII remake was being worked on for years before ever officially being shown to us. Either way, I want to see the main team move on to main FF titles. I'd rather they have a small team for DLC stuff, but I don't want the whole main team doing stuff like FFXV-2 etc.
Think that design mentality changed with FF13. FF15 before name change was suppose to directly relate to it remember. Given that along with lengthy dev time, that again 13 saw two sequels, I can't see how Square has enough creativity to made an honest FF16. Especially not while revisiting FF7 besides.
@GM- "I can't see how Square has enough creativity to made an honest FF16. Especially not while revisiting FF7 besides" Different teams...
Given how they've repeatedly compromised extravaganza for plot or cohesion, as has been the case since FF8 if not before, not seeing how.
Not this bad. This was worse as it was unfinished and quickly rushed out.
@Foxtrot: "Not this bad. This was worse as it was unfinished and quickly rushed out." Rather my exact point even if it could be argued that FF13 was their lowest point because it was so defrgamented they made three games, all with crappy stories, out of it. FF15 is further personification of those quick production and extension methods. @EDMIX: "Different teams..." Still my point. Different teams means diffused priorities and resources. With what between FF as ongoing franchise, the remakes, Kingdom Hearts and new projects - cause there are ALWAYS new project, at some point priorities will shift along with resources, compromises will be made, and something if not everything will suffer. With the technical saving grace to patch and fix things with additional content.
I have to disagree about them requiring three games to tell FFXIII's story. While the story presentation of FFXIII was terrible, the story itself was complete from beginning to end. Maybe not enough lead in to know what the hell was going on at first, or ever, but other than that, it resolved itself fine. The retconning for future games was just silly. XIII-2 wasn't too bad, as at least it kind of made sense in the vien of the lore, although not so much with the whole Caius/that girl thing, but LR was a complete departure from the lore with no real connection to it, and there was no resolution for Lightning which needed to be done. If anything, they completely left Serah unresolved from XIII-2 to LR, in what amounts to the most nonsensical story twist with no meaning in the end that I've ever seen in a game series.
You are correct sir: the other two games were NOT required... Not. At. All.
I'm not even interested that much in a spin off. FFXV world isn't as developed as invalice was for FFXI, FFXII, and that other game I forget where everything was set in it. At this point, since they dumbed down the original lore to twist it from FFXIII(which had great lore) to be the shallow shell it became in FFXV, I see no point in trying to make it interesting. They had a 40 hour core game to do that in, and failed big time. Not a bad story overall, it just felt under-developed because it was narrowly focused with characters that weren't even interesting. At least in FFXIII most of the characters were interesting, just they couldn't actually develop them that very well.
" and that other game I forget where everything was set in it." The Gameboy titles that took place in a book? And between FF13 and 15, didn't they just twist things until world lore was only semi-connected by name only?
From what I've heard about versus, the lore was the same, but it was looked at from a different perspective. Kind of the whole "there is no good or evil, only thinking makes it so" kind of thing. What this entailed I don't know, but a lot of the symbolism was still the same, but the actual perception of the people to this lore was different. FFXV story, to me at least, seemed to have almost no connection to it's lore beyond whatever antagonism it could bring to the characters. The lore had no connection to FFXIII in the changes. Not just in name, but in all it's symbolism and core meaning.
FF15's lore was nothing like FF13's if people weren't being branded, gaining magic, and turning into crystal zombies for failing to decipher non-messages directly given to them by gods - WHO CAN TALK! FF15 could have been an evolution from FF13, with Lightning's and crew actions leading to fal'Cie being enslaved, their power harness for humans to settle across Grand Pulse, class divide between magic and non-magic users leading to warring city-states, the Romeo/Juliet/Yakuza scenario Versus supposedly was going to be originally, the fal'Cie working in the background freeing themselves - DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER -- AND AIRSHIPS --- *AIRSHIPS ***MUST*** MUST BE PLAYABLE!!! AND THEY'LL HAVE THAT SWEET **SWEET** SZECHUAN SAUCE MORTY!!!!! ****THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE THE SAUCE MORTY*** ***####ITS ALL ABOUT THE SAUCE MORTY!!!!!###*** ASD;LKJF;DSLFKJEW;LKJQ;RLKJEW ;LKJDSA;FLKJS;ALGA;JH;GTSHG;LFD SHGA;LK;LKJ;DSLKJFSA;DF;DS;DSL! !!!!!!!!!!!!1
Square Enix already said there wouldn't be a FFXV-2
To be completely honest... would you be surprised if they would suddenly backtrack on that decision "due to fans asking for more"? I wouldn't.
no, this is my least favorite final fantasy in decades, if not the worst. They need to plan characters and their relationships from the very beginning. They need a cast that is unique from eachother. I think the time it took to make this and its reception should definitely lead SE to start fresh.
It seems 3 people didn't understand that the "due to fans asking for more" was PR talk.
Didn't everyone die? Were reborn in another dimension?
@Godmars290 It's open for interpretation. Mine is that only Noctis died.
Didn't we know this already? Now one team can work on FFVII Remake while another team can work on FFXVI.
"Looks Like Final Fantasy XV Won't Be Getting a Direct Sequel" because that might take 2 generations to make.
Lolwut? A sequel would actually come out faster than a new mainline installment since they would reuse the already established assets to make a new game rather than build something completely new from scratch. Just look at the relatively quick development cycles of FFX-2 & FFXIII-2 compared to their original games as further proof of this.
True but the 2 sequels were horrible.One game only had 2 characters,no summons & a horrible story.The last sequel was one character,horrible story,no summons,horrible battle system. Imo those 2 games were not needed at all.
No those sequels weren't terrible games. No FFX-2 & FFXIII-2 didn't have summons, it made sense within the narrative. You killed the aeons at the end of FFX and Noel and Serah aren't L'Cie so they couldn't summon eidolons.
Fallen is correct. Generally speaking, sequels come out much faster as they are not making a new engine or concept, they are simply building off of an existing. Look at XIII-2 and 3. They didn't take the same time to make compared to XIII.
good, all characters are very forgettable.
Of all the things that are bad in FFXV, the characters are definitely not one of them imo.
After an ending like that, no it really doesnt need one. This game was meant to be just one game. It was visioned to be a series but sadly they dont have the time for it and considering how development was...yea. Wish they would just move on and have the ffxv team help finish ff7r and kh3 but no....gotta rake in more money with mobile games, updates, and dlcs. Glad the pc versions coming though.
I just wanted to keep Iris in the party. Was that too much to ask? :(
lol I want the next FF to have the classic party members tagging along. I liked FFXV trying to change things up and I'm ok with it being its own thing, but I do want the next to have the whole "new friends coming" feel lol
Good. Loved FFXV, thought it was a fantastic game but hardly the best story from the series.
Great! Though I liked FFXV but it was lacking in what makes a true FF game. No need for a sequel,they need to move on to FF-16 & go back to it's roots far as having a great full story,having male & female players,plenty of magic & a host of summons that you can summon when you want to.
I think they should take a break from FF and make a Xenogears sequel. :) Well maybe not with the creator leaving.
Monolith Soft handles the Xeno games which are now on Switch.
I meant a proper sequel. Xenoblade is more of a spiritual successor which uses similar themes, but is a departure from the story itself. However, I'd be OK if Monolith were making it. I also wouldn't mind them completing the Xenosaga series. I doubt it's going to happen though. Nintendo seems happy with the success of Xenoblade, and it's a great series in it's own right.
Thats okay. just keep the combat the same and not turn base.
Such a shitty game.
So I'm the only one wishing for a XV-2. That's sad.
best news I've heard all gamescom, lets bring on something fresh with unique characters thought out from the beginning with a cool fantasy setting and control over your party.
***MINOR SPOILER ALERT*** The way FFXV ends, it shouldn't be getting a sequel.
y.. should it? the story was pretty much closed out. people died, some survived, theres absolutely nothing left.
And thanks god. It need total remake of it's plot and gampley anyway. Like what happened with ff14
Thank god. In my opinion it was by far the worst Final Fantasy ever. Just a really hollow shell and what a Final Fantasy game usually is.
IMO, it doesn't need a sequel, Square Enix already released a ton of FFXV-related content: the game, the movie, the 2D pixel "A King's Tale" game, now mobile version of the main game, multiplayer, DLCs, "A New Empire" mobile game, anime, that "King's Knight" game, VR support (in game and some "Monster of the Deep")...
Good...move on to the next one.
Non of FF main games had direct sequel, not X not XIII. They always do strange another total different story.
Just don't go back to turned based combat and next time please release completed game instead of game needing after released dlc to make sense of the story
This is excellent news for the series. I'm glad I played through XV for the experience but the game shoulda been scrapped. It's a disgrace to the name.
Well, after that ending I doubt it. Maybe a prequel with the king and his friends might be more logical. But I'm ready to move on from ff15.
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