"More RAM helps us cache art assets so that they are instantly available if later needed," says Chris Wilson.
"Xbox One X GPU Allows 4K Without Compromises" how can they say that when we have games that are compromising for it already to reach 4k (AC:O, Anthem)
I think they are referring to Path of Exile.
No, he was speaking about other games and developers. So, he is wrong.
zivtheawesome & bluefox, Well of course there are always compromises but the idea still stands that they were able to do much more on a console than before because of the RAM available to them via the X's hardware. You guys only want to take the extreme literal meaning because this news bothers you. lol, sound like the negative types talking about a beautiful location, everyone else is enjoying= "Nah this place doesn't really blow me away". - Of course it didnt, of course.
"Well of course there are always compromises but the idea still stands that they were able to do much more on a console than before because of the RAM available to them via the X's hardware." No what idea doesn't stand? The point the dev was making about all games.
Yeah, it's probably not a good idea for anyone to use that phrasing anymore, since we know there is and will be compromises. Heck, many of us consider 30fps a compromise, for any resolution.
30fps is garbage.
Ps4Poo makes thekhurg eyes bleed
If developers put the work in then you get Native 4k/60-30 like Path of Exile and if your engine is not up to the work load then you get checkerboarding. The fact that there's games that are native 4k (all most all of MS games are) makes it a 4K console without Compromises.
So all the games on the regular Xbox One that aren't native 1080p was only because of the engines used not being good enough? Or did that have something to do with the hardware not being good enough? It's the same thing now! Well done on MS's PR department tho, people gobble the nonsense up....
@Aenea No it's do to developers have to put the time to get XB1 up to a 1080p level, time is money for developers and XB1 was and still a mass to code for. Unless you are like MS's 1st party developer that had the tools to do what HALO, GoW, and FH3 was doing on XB1. then most developers will take the easy way out (720p-900p) . MS sent out programmers to help get some games up and running, like rise of the tomb raider. Did any OG PS4 game ever match Forza 5,6 or 7? No they did not. So why is MS able to get out all this power from the OG XB1? It comes down to time and the right tools from MS for a system that must be maxed out 100% to get the best out of it. As far as engines go take a look at Unreal 4 OG XB1 1080Dp, frostbite is all over the place ans that says it all about that engine, take a look at COD's game engine, it started on XB1 at just 720p and in the next game the Resolution went up to about 1360x1080p with the same hardware and engine. How about Killer Instinct that was and still is not a large team started life as 720p and now it's 900p with again the same engine.
Yes, it's the exact same situation....
"So the situation is exactly the same with X1 and One X," Not at all. Killer Instinct is after 3 years is now native 4k/60 on XB1X. "they will take the easy way out and go for sub-4k on the One X, gotcha." Not this time, XB1X is easy to get code running on as said by meany developers all ready. You can use PC code with presets of highest end PCs and it will just work.. "Frostbite is the most optimised 3rd party engine there is, they do take their time to get the most out of the hardware. " How is this true when the EA teams can't give you the same out put from game to game. The best code is when weaker hardware is pushed to a much higher point like the Gears of War Unreal engine that is now native 4K on XB1X. Look at the Forza tech engine it's 1080p from any team. "Games with lots of enemies walking about in the scenery needs extensive AI to work, that AI has to run on something as well." Is Gears NOT DOING THAT? "That can either be CPU or GPU or both, in any case something will have to give in order to make it work." The CPU in X1X is not the same as the one in the PS4 or XB1. Ms did something to it. it's only about 200Mhz more than PS4P but can keep the GPU running at a 4K/60-30 level. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
Im sure those games could do 4k. With lower levels of detail. But they cant have worse looking textures and pop in but higher resolution. That would look silly in a comparison video. That said. It's awful to see that any dev that compliments the xbox will get bashed in a comment section. Even if it is one of the most player and consumer friendly devs out there on PC.
"Im sure those games could do 4k. With lower levels of detail. " that is a compromise compared to the regular version.
@zivth Gamers on PC compromise all the time. Perfectly normal. Just because I cant run ALL max settings at 1080p for instance doesnt mean my PC isnt a 1080p machine.
Because Microsoft :)
Gamingbolt= always the same.....
4K without compromise, they mean checkboard. There is no way a console with a weak 6 TFLOPS gpu and junk cpu could do native 4K at any frame rate. Get used to checkboard like on the Pro, it's all you're getting.
You are not intelligent are you.
are you retarted, many games are already 4k native and a few are 4k native 60fps like forza 7, so once again are you retarted?
There aren't many native 4K games on it, yet. However, by the time all is said and done, before the rest of the 9th generation machines release alongside the Switch, the One X will have the most native 4K titles on consoles.
Says the guy that spells "retarded" wrong not once, but twice.
@DarkZane You said the same thing yesterday. Are you just cutting & pasting your drivel in every comment thread? Sad...
Does it work on xb1? Good. Now put it on ps4. Thanks.
Happy to see more devs coming out and praising X the way they are. Make the devs happy and they will male the gamers happy.
Path of Exiles is ridiculously easy to run, even at 4K.
Not again with this "no compromise" shit.
These statements feel sponsored by Microsoft.
and your statements feel like they are sponsored by sony
sure that GPU is capable... but not if that weak sauce CPU has anything to say about it
You know how many people only upgrade their GPU most of the time on pc? Lots. CPU is vital, but more so on pc than console. Strong Ram and GPU are usually enough to make a good overall system. Unless you are running several apps, CPU is not as important as you guys make it out to be.
Cpu is every bit as important. Its the cpu that orders the frame to draw, assets to stream, enemy AI to calculate, physics to calculate, allocate resources for next frame, and make another request for the following frame. If the cpu takes to long to processing a single request the gpu will be blocked from being able to draw the next frame as no request was given, hence cpu bottleneck. 4k resolutions and textures are all gpu dependent, but what most fail to realize is that everything else is pretty reliant on cpu utilization. Comparing a desktop grade cpu to the mobile grade jaguar cpus isn't a good comparison either as the jaguar cpu cores have shown to be bottlenecking performance time and again.
Ya don't say?
Must not be a very demanding game then.
Yep, when you run games that are gauged for last gen, you're sure to get 4K "without compromises". Way to go MS.
That developer needs to drive over to Ubisoft and tell them how they did it because third parties can't seem to hit true 4k without compromise lol
Without compromise for Path of Exile maybe. Although looking at the game it doesn't seem like it would require any compromise in the first place, looks like something that could have run fine on the original xbox.
Can Microsoft do anything but try to bullshit themselves and their customers? They're getting worse and worse with the bullshit-talk all over again. For the past 1-2 years they've been doing fine in the PR stuff - being direct and everything. Now they've reverted to exaggerations and bullshitting as per 'the usual Microsoft'.
Lol now that's a bold face lie.. As assassins creed run @ a dynamic 4k resolution which is not native.. And that's just one I'm naming.. Lol
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