Eurogamer: We've covered Rise of the Tomb Raider across four different formats over the last couple of years, and we're about to add a fifth and possibly final release.
Impressive power for a $500 console
Very impressive. This is just the beginning I imagine. Can't wait for this machine to really flex its muscles.
It is already almost 4 years into the generation. Most of the major franchises are already out like FFXV, MGS5, Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Resident Evil 7, Doom, Destiny, etc. etc. The gen is already winding up with few games coming up except for the yearly milked franchises. It wont be getting much time to flex its muscles before next gen is upon us.
@Shin I think there will be plenty of good looking games in the next three or four years.
@shin Games are subjective. That's what PS fans were saying before Neo and Project Scorpio became rumors. I like PS games better than xbox games, but c'mon man end the victim act.
Not enough of a difference to justify paying $550 Dollars for a console that is lagging in games.
What like not be able to run killing floor 2 in 4k? Lol
Bu...but it doesn't run native 4k ;) Both 4K modes are not native. Impressive non the less, but just for the kicks and jiggles. Not native, either way :P Which makes me wonder, why didn't they use a CB solution for the enhanced mode on the Pro. Like a 1440P CB mode (we haven't seen anything like that on the Pro, but why not).
@Shin You have a point but still you have to admit that Xbox X is quite the upgrade I won't buy it over the pro though because i like Playstation games far more and they bother to make AMAZING exclusives plus this gen is still 2-3 years away from next gen.
Still sounds expensive for a console with not enough great exclusives like PC, PS4, Switch for the price and just relying heavy on third party support to get by but that's just my opinion. Gamescom said it all for me
Actually I *sort of agree with you. Yes and No.....*This year the exclusives are lacking imo (not enough of my type of games) but the hardware for what is IS worth the price. I mean just the fact that the X is going to basically improve performance or visuals or both for my huge library of Xbox games that I already own for FREE is almost pushing me to make a purchase, but then lets not forget that games like A.C. Origins, Shadow of Mordor, Anthem and tons more major blockbuster 3rd party games make up 90% or more of both platforms lineups. Hell even the biggest 3rd party games like GTA, COD, Battlefield, Overwatch, Madden etc see by far more sales and gameplay time on both platforms than exclusives do. So yes theres plenty incentive there for a purchase....Im just mad at Microsoft for not nailing things down with their own 1st party games this year & launch....I suspect/pray they are working on that issue though.
I don't trust the Jaguar cpu in the consoles. The only reason I bought a PS4 was because of the exclusives other than that I play most of my games on PC. I'm interested in buying a Switch or trading in my Wii U for a Switch because Nintendo first party exclusives and upcoming games does look appealing and it has nothing to do with power it's all about the games it's the major reason I buy a *game* console. It's going to take years for Microsoft to develop first party studios. It took Sony years to do that as well.
4sh0w I highly disagree, this year we got the highest rated games this gen (zelda?) We've seen Japanese developers returning to the greatneess they once were(nier, nioh, persona, yakuza, gravity rush). We also seen good numbers of western games (horizon,for honor, wildlands etc) I know you said not your type of games but those games cover a wide variety of genres. so I must Ask, whats your prefered type of games?
MegamanXXX, -Sure but they don't need a ton more studios, fir now they just need the studios they have to actually work on putting out other games besides Gears, Halo, and Forza....plus Microsoft has the cash so I'd like to see way more deals like ones that bought us Sunset Overdrive, Ryse and even Scalebound, without of course the cancellation part. btw PC gaming is fine, I can easily afford it, I just prefer consoles, for others $500 for the performance is a huge factor. SilverDemon, huh?...You misread my post, I was only talking about Microsoft/Xbox exclusives lineup for this year. As for the rest of what I said above, Iam correct, while exclusives are important 3rd party games are bigger in terms of quantity, sales, and playtime.
I saw a comparison to PC and PS4 Pro. The Xbox One X version surprisingly looks a bit better than the PC version. The PS4 Pro version looked nothing close to either as expected.
Is it really worth the money though?
"The Pro's 'enriched' mode also makes an appearance on Xbox One X and seems to feature a very similar visual feature set, packing in more graphical upgrades ported over from the PC version. However, the big difference here is that it's presented as an alternative 4K mode, as opposed to PS4's 1080p presentation. It's not immediately clear how Nixxes has pulled this off," "On top of that, there are further enhancements we've not seen on any other platform: Dolby Atmos spatial surround support is confirmed, along with HDR rendering. We actually saw HDR running on the PC version of the game way back in March 2016 at Nvidia's GTX 1080 launch (there's even a blog post from Nixxes about it), but for reasons unknown, the feature never made its way to users. With this in mind, we're hopeful that HDR support will roll out to all Rise of the Tomb Raider users, regardless of platform." Some nice improvements right there.
More devs should do this. I hope they update vanilla xbox one version and get rid of the input lag.
Alternate 4K mode running at what native resolution though? Are they saying that it's impossible to do similar on the PS4 Pro? HDR is also something that had better come to all platforms that support it. If it was shown on PC first and is now in the XBX version I'm sure it will though...right?... It all sounds impressive but it's not really telling us anything.
Well, the PS4 mode runs 1080P native, the XoX probably some sort of 2160CB. Makes me wonder if the 1080P mode would also use some sort of CB how far they could have pushed it. They obviously improved on the Pro code and pushed it further. I guess there is no incentive to back port this to the Pro? Also, makes me wonder if there is any FP16 optimization in the Pro version. Given it has released quite a while back and the Pro was fairly new, I doubt it pushed it to the limit at that time. It won't match the XoX, of course not. And it still looks great. I, personally, can't really see a huge difference. I still prefer the 4K mode simply for the fact it produces less aliasing and less shimmering.
So the 4K mode is native and the Enriched mode is temporal 4K? Thats pretty impressive. I was under the impression that the Enriched mode would be running at 1080p or maybe 1440p. Im going to play in the Enriched mode, if the sharpness isnt dialed back too much. Seeing the gameplay videos from the X in 4K via my 4K screen... was awe inspiring! Its just nuts how good it looks.
Xbox One X is a beast Significant gains over the Pro
A brand new update to a console is more powerful than one that came out before it? I am shocked I say, shocked!/s Now let's see exclusives take advantage of this power.
Yes now if there were that one main factor...games, new ones preferably then I would be excited. As it is November 7th is just another day in the month of November for me.
But, doesn't change the fact the X1X is more powerful.
I love it! So much petty behavior, on both sides. People trying to play off that they're not baiting LOL Gotta love the internet. Enjoy your time in the spot light boys, eat it up and throw it in your "opponents" faces. Just be prepared to receive when it comes back ground, cause it always comes back around.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
The "significance" comes from the marketing (and exploring the avenue taken a year ago with the Pro release). The rest is simple maths. Th 40% increase based on clock frequency and bandwidth.
Ugh.... Another one. My Xbox library gonna see some love come end of the year.
@DaGreatOne Yes, you will continue to play your OLD Xbox games on your NEW console while in Playstation world we have so many new games most of us have backlogs and haven't even played many of the ones released in the first half of this year.
It's funny how after one little comment people assume they have you pegged. What is with this us and we attitude? I have a ps4, in fact I have 3 of them so I am not going to be missing out on anything my friend. I'll have the best of both worlds. Last I checked shadows of war isn't old, assassin's Creed, anthem and others.
I do wish they had gone more in-depth about how the One X version stacks up against the PC release. But otherwise, this will be Xbox vs PS2 all over again. The One X versions, in most cases, should stand head-and-shoulders above the Pro iterations.
would be sad, because ps2 had the funner games. Main reason i even gamed on my og xbox was because of playing music on the hdd.
I redownloaded Rise of Tomb Raider last night. Cant wait to beat again with the better settings.
You downloaded a game to your Xbox One that you plan to play over a month from now on a different console?
Over 2 months* and thats what it sounds like. I don't think he understands.
If copied to an external drive it will plug straight into the xbox one x, or if you don't have an external drive, use network copy from one xbox on your network to another. You can also pre-download 4k assets and patches in advance. Doing quite a few things right with this iteration
That is no so crazy as it sounds though. Have to keep in mind that many people have External HDD's on Xbox. It is the easiest way to queue those games you intend to play when the X releases so you don't get bombarded with downloading games along with those huge 4K assets. I might do the same actually. Oops. I didn't read duke748's comment before typing. He actually did a much better job explaining why it is actually a smart thing to do.
I'm calling BS. I know how that works, but downloading it months beforehand is ridiculous. Also, you'll have to do a major update later for 4k assets. They won't be available until about November.
Putting an old game on a new system. Of course it's going to look better; it's not rocket science.
It's a comparison though. It's not news of how this game looks on a better platform as much as it is about how much better this game looks on X COMPARED to what they was able to achieve on Pro. What it does is give you a better sense in how powerful X actually is compared to other platforms...
This news would be impressive if this was a new Tomb Raider game but it's a TR game that's been on XBO already in 2015.
Exactly you would think Microsoft would've had at least Halo or Gears or heaven forbid a new IP or something that's part of their brand to show off what this"BEAST" can do.
"Exactly you would think Microsoft would've had at least Halo or Gears" Would've had? What are you talking about? You can't compare Halo and Gears on PS4 Pro when those games aren't available on the system. Once again; it's a comparison between two competing platforms. One is thoroughly besting the other in terms of performance. I'll let you guess which one that is.
@Setic I not saying compare Halo or Gears on the Pro. What I was saying is that with the release of the X Microsoft should've had some new games to coincide with it's launch. Also it's hard for me to get excited about a two year old game even if it does look better I'm fine with the Pro. I just wish Microsoft would have some killer games to go with the launch of the X.
No Hardiman, I think Septic understood you, and I agree Microsoft should have at least one heavy hitter of their own for launch of the X but what hes getting at is your post is off topic because this is about the hardware performance of 2 competing consoles, the best way to do that is with existing games on BOTH platforms, preferably brand new multiplat games should be more interesting but of course if devs take advantage X's hardware a similar outcome is pretty much expected.
I understand I was off topic but again I don't care how much better it makes Rise look, or Assassins Creed Origins. My point is that will not push consoles. Now if they had new games showing off the power then yeah sure. Again most folks are happy with the base PS4 and S and the ones who do have a Pro are just gonna get the third party titles for it. Not spend $500. on a system that jut makes games that quite frankly look amazing on the Pro. Sure the X is more powerful but HZD looked out of this world and it's not the power that's gonna get it done. Yes the article is comparing Rise on the X to the Pro but buddy Rise looked amazing to me on my Pro and I beat that game some time ago. Now I'm playing Lost Legacy(an actual exclusive new game) and it looks amazing on the Pro. I guess my main point would be that Microsoft instead of comparing a two year old game just should've released some new games hell one and said now here this is what this best can do but no looky here it can make ROT look a little better than the Pro.
Free update to graphics on new hardware isn't impressive? That's the whole point of these mid generation consoles to begin with, better looking games from the base console.
I guess it is to folks that haven't played it.Most folks that played it already really could care less is maybe what I was trying to say.
I'm more than happy with my Pro. Now what would make me open my wallet would be some new eclusive games only available on the X. I will not spend $500. on a console to make games that I already own and am happy with the way they look. New games Microsoft that's what I want. Make that happen and I will buy an X.
Im in the same boat. Still waiting for exclusives to be announced...
How can we get downvotes? I had two og Xbox's, four or five 360"s and I would buy an X but there are no games that I want to play on the S or the X period! I don't get this brand loyalty crap, sure I love what Sony provides. Heck I even got a Switch because they do have some exclusives that I do want to play. I'm not anti Xbox but I have never seen in all the years I've been gaming a system in this case the Xbox One, S and now the X have so little to offer in exclusive games. It's not like Microsoft doesn't know how to do this as they did a phenomenal job of delivering IP's on the original Xbox and with the 360. I loved Sunset Overdrive but that was what? 2014 c'mon. I don't care if Assassins Creed Origins looks better on the X. When I get it for the Pro I'll be more than happy. Also backwards compatibility is praised like it's some ground breaking feature! They have 360 titles repackaged for the Xbox One which made me giggle as I thought why the hell aren't the cases full of new IP's? I love variety and choice. Today I'm playing HZD again. Later maybe Hellblade or Crash or Tales of Berseria or any of the 22 Sony "EXCLUSIVES" I own or I may go out and buy Lost Legacy. If the X had just a fraction of what ony has offered this gen I would buy one in a heartbeat but until they change course or get rid of Phil or whomever is making the decisions for the Xbox division my wallet is closed!
Absolutely! No one really cares about a 2 year old game that most folks have played already.It may be a treat for folks that have not played the game yet & plans to buy an XBOX.If they can slay 2018 with a slew of interesting exclusives that are jaw dropping,I may pick one up,but as of now I'm happy with my Pro & all the exclusives & upcoming exclusives I can play on it including multi-plats.
You keep saying that and it is not even close to being true. Thing about what you are saying. If that were true TR would have sold at least 40 million copies. I have a copy downloaded day one that I never booted up. I know that is stupid, but sometimes games do stupid things. So no shame in admitting.
I mean it has been like a year or so. I would expect a rerelease of it on the pro to look even better if it came out at this time. Smh.
NO! The developer said it is the hardware the X has over the Pro that made it possible. It had nothing to do with time. The X is just way more powerful. That should have been obvious just looking at the specs, not just the 2TF GPU difference.
It's impressive, but I'd be more impressed with what they could do with exclusives.
Full 4k vs 4kCb, isn't it basically twice the performance? And with better textures, anti aliasing, effects etc. Wow
Meh, still looks better on my PC. Not a reason for me to buy an Xbox.
The games just keep on coming with enhancements, free as well!
Annnd **how** this game was exclusive to the xb1 crowd for a whole year. Basically, anyone who liked this game has already played, beaten, and sold rottr. Ms/Xbox1x gamers, if you think touting a game from almost 2 years ago (Nov 10th 2015) is any great way to show off your shiny new box, thats not going to cut it, **except** for gamers who havent played this game. How about showing new games orr games that you know, release this year to show why anyone thats not a ms supporter justifiable reasons why spending 499 on a 3rd party games machine is a great idea. This is almost taking a play out of nintendos playbook touting old games as new ones.
***How about showing new games orr games that you know, release this year to show why anyone thats not a ms supporter justifiable reasons why spending 499 on a 3rd party games machine is a great idea. *** Like Assassin's Creed Origins or Shadow of War or Dishonored: Death of the Outsider or Star Wars Battlefront II?
I fully expect the XB1X to have slightly better visuals than PS4 Pro - its basic maths and certainly ain't news. That doesn't mean PS4 Pro owners will have any less enjoyment from their games what-so-ever. You girls will argue about anything :)
Man..what must it be like to be so easily impressed.
This is good news because now more games will support PS4 Pro because of the Xbox One X
But it is still the same game, huh?
WHOA ! $500.00 for a console that has NO games, sounds pretty expensive and stupid !
are you a child?