BioWare may have created Mass Effect, but it also killed it. The series had its moment, but now it has been sent off to die because of one big mistake.
Quick to lay the blame on BioWare. I'm sure EA influence is what damaged the series.
Nah! The blame lies with Bioware. They wanted to pander to dangerhairs and SJW creeps and they delivered one of the most disappointing games in recent memory.
I mean what does that actually have to do with the technical issues with this game? What does that also have to do with a game clearly being rushed in an incomplete state? That is more salt up to the publisher. Please stop using your hate on this platform to push some sort of agenda. To my understanding most of bioware's games have had characters that were homosexual or of different demographics.... I don't think that really has anything to do with this game's shortcomings in regards to the plethora of technical issues.
@_-EDMIX-_ I agree. Andromeda was not a terrible game by any means. Aside from obvious technical issues and facial animations, I enjoyed it fine. Does it stand up to any of the games in the original trilogy? No. However there were many positives about Andromeda that people choose to ignore. I place blame on EA as well. Clearly the BioWare team that is now working on Anthem SHOULD have been the development team of this beloved franchise. EA chose the $$$ like always and put all their talent on a online service game that they want to rival Destiny.
@DrShoe You can't really blame the technical issues of the game on "SJW" the game has been appealing to people of all sexual orientations since "SJWs" were even a thing to hate on.
@ThatGuy- Agreed. EA wanted to have their cake and eat it too. I think they wanted a new IP, but clearly wanted another Mass Effect, I'm sure that team really, really wanted to make a great Mass Effect and EA wanted to have one made, but them rushing it out only shows that they didn't care about all the corners being cut to get this game out. They delayed it a few times, but clearly this game had some HUGE issues that some delays just couldn't fix, they maybe need to delay it longer cause those technical issues are just ridiculous
The people at Bioware who made ME1/2/3 were mostly not even involved in ME4. It *was* EA. Bioware as a company is literally not what they were.
Most of its development was over 18 months. I'd blame Bioware for that
Another blind hater without any reason I see. Now I see how EA managed to win worst company of the year even though there are other companies that ruin peoples lives. But hey gotta have my video game right.
More like a lot of big mistakes
Agreed. To me it died with the original ending of ME3... If you fancy yourself the best storytellers in gaming you cannot have the ending so mucked up that our fans call you out on all the mistakes in the canon. (Not to mention the ending not making any sense in general and certainly not for the tone set forth by the previous 2.9 games.) I just got the feeling they did care anymore and that I shouldn't either...
The ending did make sense eith the other two games Mass Effect 1- Shepard learns of indoctrination from key characters such as Benezia, rana, and Saren. Mass Effect 2- Shepard sees more of the reapers power and is pressured to dubmit by harbinger and his collector thralls. "Your mind will be mine" being something that harbinger always taunts Shepard with. Arrival dlc gives him a good bathing in forces that can easily kick start the process. Mass Effect 3- Shepard s mind slowly begins to be affected by indoctrination. In the end, you have the choice to make a decision that two indoctrinated enemies made, which they thought was correct (Saren=synthesis and TIM =control), or you can choose to resist indoctrination,thus showing the reapers that their greatest weapon is not unstoppable. See, the three games tie in beautifully
I hope this will be a lesson to other developers that pander to sexist, racist SJWs and hire people based on their reproductive organs and orientation, instead of, you know, hiring based on merit and experience. And then the sexists still weren't happy.
Everything EA touches eventually turns to shit. It's inevitable in the gaming industry with the way big AAA games are designed now. Season Passes, micro transactions, MOBA and MMORPG repetitive gameplay systems in single player games, forced online, games using the same mechanics so they all feel the same, shoehorning in crafting and collecting mechanics, DLC, you rarely feel like you're getting a full game on release for $60 / £40. There's been a huge lack of gameplay innovation this gen, I feel that the obsession with resolution and frame rates have allowed developers to not focus on gameplay innovation and instead just sell the game on the quality of the graphics.
I wish Sony had bought bioware ,or cd project red.
Bioware under Sony would have created one of the greatest games ever made. It's a real shame that Bioware ended up the way it has. Thanks EA! Thanks SJWs.
I agree that with the focus on one platform and under a publisher that is very open about giving creators a lot of freedom in room to create that Sony probably would have done a better job as publisher for this series. I actually disagree that it had anything to do with social justice Warriors that ruin the game I would argue that simply bad development ruined this game. Social justice Warriors have nothing to do with just pure bad development it's clear there are many many mistakes made on the technical side in even the storytelling of this game. I'm being all the technical bugs in issues revolving around this game have nothing to do with social justice Warriors. This is just a bad entry. It would have been that regardless of what they did with some of those homosexual characters.
@edmix Want to know what some of the first things that needed to be addressed as expressed by BW/EA? -need to fix gay sex scenes -address conversation dialog of Hainley Abrams to correctly convey transgender quality -change Jaal into a bisexual alien Right, not SJW thinking there, we all give a flying squirrel for those updates.
cd project red buying bioware would have been sweet.
Does anyone actually know any series that has no bad games ever? This game was made by a team that wasn't the main Bioware team that made the other Mass Effects... I don't think 1 bad game is going to "kill" a series, theses articles are getting just ridiculous. Folks can blame EA for pushing a game without its main team....yes, they are to blame for that, but its not as if the people who make Mass Effect in terms of 1-3 have just suddenly died. I'm sure the main team has ideas for another Mass Effect after Anthem has released. I don't see the point in pretending that EA killed the series when more Mass Effect titles have been done under EA then without.... So those who are angry about the series so called "dying" or being "killed" etc....consider many of you are even calling it a series ie acknowledging 2 and 3 in the first place. If you only liked Mass Effect 1 under MS, why on earth would you even care 10 years after the release of playing only 1 game? Cry over 2, cry over 3, sure cry over Andromeda, but at some point you folks might need to legit move on. imho I'd say the best Mass Effect's were made under EA, not MS. Hate EA all you want folks, but reading many articles on here ,its clear that many favor Mass Effect 2....a EA game.
"Does anyone actually know any series that has no bad games ever?" - Uncharted - Halo - God Of War - Gears Of War - Max Payne - Grand Theft Auto - Donkey Kong Country - Super Smash Bros - Ratchet & Clank - Yakuza - Doom - Wolfenstein Would you like me to keep going?
max payne was good until rockstar bought it.
I agree ,some of those franchises you listed had some disappointing sequels,but they were still Decent at least.
Sorry but you list is subjective, in regards to halo. Halo died right after bungie left, i played the new halos, halo 5 story sucks.
I mean the list of games you provided show a perfect example of exactly what I'm talking about. Halo? All the fans I talk to about that game have their own complex version of entries that I should play or avoid. Did everyone suddenly forget Uncharted 3? Are you literally going to pretend that Max Payne 3 is anything like the first two titles? Donkey Kong Country? You mean when they release Donkey Kong returns which played almost nothing like the originals in by a team that never made a Donkey Kong game? Throw in Star Fox Zero throw in Paper Mario Color Splash or pretty much any Paper Mario after Thousand Year Door. Yakuza? So we're just going to ignore that strange zombie game that they released? The point I'm trying to make is that every single game series when you get past the specific amount is going to get a dud here in there. Mass Effect simply got theirs for the first time. I think if anything these articles that keeps showing up over and over again only proved the testament of just how passionate those fans are about Mass Effect, if you really look at gaming in regards to series that have gone on for a very long time over 10 years or so you'll realize that if you have four or five inch Rays chances are one or two of those games with likely not as good as another entry. Mind you I like all the series that you listed but I completely disagree that any of those series had zero games that happened to be bad. For what it's worth I seriously don't believe Mass Effect Andromeda is seriously that bad because most of the people I come across who play it on PlayStation Network tell me they actually really enjoy it. All that's happened here today is Mass Effect has just passed a gaming rite of passage lol
@EDMIX I agree with you, but a lot of gamers tend to just go with popular opinion than to try things themselves. It's probably due to all the game releases, it's easier to brush off Mass Effect: Andromeda because some people didn't like the tech, EA, the inclusiveness, or something, than it is to take the time to get the game, play it, and form an honest opinion on it. It's even easier when you got a publisher who people easy see as a "bad guy" in the industry or they have some other games that aren't having those issues. EA isn't as bad as people make them out to be, their one of the best companies to work for if you're apart of the LGBT community, but I know that automatically triggers people and they just see red and "SJW" so I won't go into that. While i do think ME:A may've been rushed due to maybe constraints they placed on Bioware it was also Bioware's responsibility to make a decent product, something they failed to do. Games like Titanfall 2 end up amazing but they're published by EA, Dragon Age Inqusition was pretty good and it's by EA, so what's the excuse this time around?
actually they didn't create mass effect. The people who made Bioware what it was are long gone and left the company. It's all SJW filler now. Casey Hudon recently came back to Bioware, but still, it's not one person that makes a game and the great Bioware of the past is gone. Just put Bioware on the shelf with all the other devs EA has killed/ruined.
Just make Mass Effect 4 and we'll forget it ever happened
No, me4 wont happen. I dont want them to touch the shepard story after this atrocity.
One of the best games this year and articles like this are popping up? Someone must be in la la land, lol
Yeah, you are in la la land for thinking this is one of the best games of the year.
He's entitled to have an opinion and you're entitled to disagree. Respect that and move on.
He is saying that if you don't think this game is one of the best this year you are crazy. His opinion sure, but my opinion is that he is crazy for thinking that. What's the problem?
I just think the goofballs who wrote the article are in la la land. It's not as good as the original trilogy but it's still great.
was hoping for an xbox one x patch to get better visuals then pick up the game later on, but i'll just pass now.
It already has better visuals on the PC. Guess what? You can't polish a turd.
One game screwup isn't going to kill the series, lol.
EA is to blame here. I am sure one day we will get all the details from behind the scenes. I think it was an engine change that truly doomed this game. The Alpha looked WORLDS better.
This articles of Hating Bioware , Mass Effect is dead, and so on are so "Give me attention please" right now.... Ffs, some franchises go thro some bumps, look at Assassin's Creed ! Since so long, they haven't been that good, like more meh but after some break, Origins actually look to be quite good ! Just some this attention "Bioware killed, EA Killed, blah blah blah" Time will tell if it's dead or not ffs
For me, it is simple. When I look at all the SJW stuff and all the backlash from SJW types and the anti-SJW types, I see it for what it is. Science Fiction was on the forefront of inclusion and diversity. One need only look at Gene Roddenberry and what he was aiming for with Star Trek, his choice to feature characters of color, etc. I get that Sci-Fi is about diversity, even inclusion, but something has been lacking in our modern era. I think that is writing ability and perspective. People still talk about individual episodes of the original Star Trek series and how well-written/thought out the stories were. How compelling the human drama. I am sure the modern so-called "woke" game designers and writers think they are achieving the same feat with their writing as well. The difference is, to have any real impact, these things need to be so well included, that they educate and make a person think without realizing it is going on. Today they slap a gay character out there, have them hit on you, go on and on about their girlfriend or boyfriend, whatever drives home the narrative. The use of a trans character in ME:A, was apparently handled in much the same way and given the accounts I read, sounds like it was dialogue written by a virtue signaling white male. What is even funnier, I put in 120 hours to the game and do not recall ever meeting this character, so for all of that, you can actually not even meet or encounter the person, much less hear their story. My point, however, is that the writing has become so poor, that these games no longer no how to introduce diversity and inclusion in subtle ways that add to and don't distract from the main story. For all the complaints about the last Star Trek Beyond movie, when Sulu ran to his family and hugged his kid and his husband, I actually found that to be a subtle cue. Here is a character that never once talked about being gay or having a husband, fearful for his family, rushing to be reunited with them and in a quiet moment you see that he is gay and married. Seems to me that if these SJW writers really want to make a difference, they need to learn how to write a story that features great writing and learn to introduce diversity in a less obnoxious way. I am trying to imagine if games treated straight characters the way Bioware treats gay characters, how odd it would seem.
You introduce diversity by having diverse characters and NOT talking about it. Want more blacks? Have a black guy on the ship. Don't talk about him being black. People don't care about race or gender or sexuality unless it's pivotal to the story. Having a random trans character (that was obviously just a female character model and female actor) talk about "how oppressed" she was is not how ou include it. You could have had an alien race that's capable of changing genders for reproduction like frogs and the trans character could relate to the alien race.
Oh I agree. I was definitely pointing to the fact that these modern game writers don't seem to have much actual writing ability, much less any subtlety. It often does feel like the "diverse" characters included in games were written by what a straight white dude thought a gay, trans or person of color would talk and/org behave like. Almost like they were scared to just have nuanced and interesting characters and let the gamers discover them organically, through playing the game in a way that served or at the very least didn't detract from the story. Like Marvel taking an existing character and making them gay or switching genders or racial identity and then going on about how diverse they are. If you have to trumpet how diverse and inclusive you are, you are probably like that person who couldn't possibly be racist because some of their best friends are black.
The blame is squarely on EA for pulling most of the original team to work on Anthem half way through Andromeda. Andromeda I heard became a mess after that. EA wanted a Destiny clone.
They are gonna reboot it with Casey Hudson at the helm
Even if the next game is high rated seller I would still wait until a price drop just to spite them.
It's ea' s fault not to mention they put there A SQUAD on Anthem in stead of mass effect
I'm glad they did caned it. It needs a fresh start with a real developer that cares about the game.
I just started playing this yesterday and it's not that bad. It does have SJW stink all over it though.
I've played 50 hours so far, and it seems like a perfectly ok game. No major issues popped up for me, and the story is serviceable enough. Can people tell me why it's such a bad game? It plays like the old ones to me.
Because they were hyped I guess. It's not as good as it could have been but very enjoyable nonetheless.
It should have been cancelled. EA made the decision to release that steaming bag of chud to make back some of the money they wasted on 4 years worth of useless virtue signaling from incompetent hack lead developers. I heard the racist left shortly after release but EA defended that pos. Where did he end up going? I won't buy anything from that studio either?
It's quite a shame that Bioware created such a heaping pile of game crap known as Mass Effect Andromeda and EA let them....
EA will now make the original trilogy remaster in a complete, single package, in order to try and make up some costs from this disaster. So, some good will come of it.
Zipper/Socom 4 fiasco all over and the simple ones will blame the publisher instead of the devs for the stupid decisions...
I also blame EA. Bioware games just haven't been the same ever since they sold out.
I heard ME was okay from a lot of people who played it. Not bad just more of a very mediocre experience and for me I was expecting something a little more mind blowing for the next chapter in the ME universe. This game is on definite pause from my Gamefly que. It's a shame that EA has a knack for killing their sci fi franchises, first Dead Space and now ME.
I don't think there are many left in Bioware who worked on games like KOTOR or the first two Mass Effects. Blame EA.
What the hell is with all the SJW blame? Yeah good going SJWs, you managed to make a game buggy and technically broken. Thanks alot!
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