Twinfinite writes "In its final sales pitch to prospective customers, Microsoft failed to convince that the Xbox One X is anything but an expensive niche product that there’s very little reason to own this fall."
A lame attempt at it.
A for effort??? 😂 lol
A fart is more like it lol
Do you have your own opinion? Or do you borrow all of your ideas from Eurogamer...
MetalProxy lol. Bravo
Just stop the fake indifference and fully accept this new console is going to be next level. The architecture and engineering alone is amazing! It's what I wanted the original Xbox One to be, but now it's here. 4K has been out for years now and we finally have a worthy machine for it. I still applaud MS for pushing through all the hate and making a solid foundation. Sure their marketing team could take a page from the Surface division, but again the hardware, software and services are rock solid. Xbox services like Live, Games with Gold, Play Anywhere, Game Pass, new titles on the horizon, enhanced titles for X, and more and more BC. Their exclusives have received tons of support and polish and further enhancements. Patches bring new features and speed to the OS. The design language is copied throughout the tech industry. It's a great time to be a gamer.
@unspoken The console is anything but next level. As of right now, the ONLY selling point is that it runs multi-platform games in 4K. There's ZERO compelling exclusives releasing for it this year, and nothing interesting in the pipeline until at least late 2018. If anything, the console just screams "WAIT UNTIL A PRICE CUT!"
The only selling point is the new console plays games at a higher visual and audio fidelity? You don't say?! What did you want it to do, play TV and Kinect to your entertainment system all while using voice commands? If you can't afford it, sure wait until the price drop by all means. But for any original Xbox owners, with 1080p or 4K screen, or if you aren't running a high end Windows rig, or you just want to get into Microsoft's fantastic eco system, or you just want the BEST tech in console gaming right now, this is the system to get, no doubts. Already sold my S.
@unspoken X isn't here for a few months, so why did you already sell your S? no games to play while you're waiting? lol
"The only selling point is the new console plays games at a higher visual and audio fidelity" you make it sound like the same game looks like a gameboy game on all the remaining consoles. only the first comparison videos will show if there is realy improvement. devs will put more ressources into it only if it is successful and as of today nobody sees that happening. Games look great on either x1, PS4 or Pro. No need to pay 500$ for minimal improvement, if any!!!!
Nah, I'm going to wait and savor all the 4K and enhanced gameplay in less than 3 months, it'll taste great with your fanboy tears. Plus my gaming rig will tide me over. :)
@unspoken, you seem to be putting a lot of your hopes on the X. You're really trying to convince people that this is the second coming. So if it comes out and doesn't set the world on fire... what then?
I'll still get to enjoy awesome games that look great? I don't really see how I lose in your scenario.
and yet it sold out everywhere on stock that should have lasted a week 🤔
I don't know for sure, but Microsoft push Xbox One X marketing like next gen. Even I know Xbox One X is mid gen, Microsoft want to be top of all.
stock that should have lasted a week? no. it was put out in very limited quantities.
should have lasted a week..? looooooool... so were jsut coming up with BS then yeah..? Its only sold out its 'project scorpio' edition! which is in limited circulation! are you realllyyy that desperate to defend!?
Preorders don't mean anything especially when it's a super limited edition console of course it's going to sell out it's nothing amazing
@prince-ali Nope, it's just that early pre-orders get the Scorpio edition. It was not "JUST" the scorpio editions that are on pre-order. This is Xbox One S all over again. People claimed they only sold out because it had limited stock then it won 2 NPD months in a row. Also this information comes from Jez Corden.
It's readily available in the uk and all over Europe. Only the Scorpio edition sold out and there are no official numbers on pre orders. No one thought fans wouldn't upgrade or the console wouldn't sell. Just nothing will change to the current market share and current trends will continue.
No worries Zeref.....PS4Pro trolls are just upset they bought an under powered console that isn't selling very well, so it will most likely never reach its limited, full potential..
umm, doesn't target still have it? https://www.target.com/p/xb...
@Rob from the last century (lol) what you call underpower is still just the most powerful until the X comes out. Even then you will come to realize that though the difference "substantial", it is not like night and day like some assume. Also dont be naive. The cycle will continue eventually: ps5 will come, x2 will too, then ps6....and so on. So at the end of day it all comes down to preferences + attractiveness (games, price, fanbase size, etc). GAME ON
Same as the Wii U did and end up being garbage.
in vain wold mean it didn't help. Yet it sold out in an hour at most retailers.
I think the pre orders..unless increased are literally sold out everywhere now.
Didn't the Pro have a ho-hum reveal at their special event too? Hard to convince people how great these machines are when you are watching a 1080p (if that) video feed. MS could have at least done a better attempt at showcasing the differences..
Yeah but the Pro wasn't hyped up to be an amazing, solid beast of a machine like the Xbox One X. Sony didn't let the hype get too much out of hand and they didn't say too much
@-Foxtrot Microsoft´s poor show at Gamescom doesn´t change that fact that Xbox One X is an impressive machine. Imo, Black Desert @native 4K, Recore Definitive Edition, and Rise of Tomb Rider @native 4K with superior graphics and effects when compared with the PC version @native 4K will not make anyone cancel their pre-orders.
I remember plenty of articles around here after the reveal that questioned the whole PS4 Pro show and that they didn't do a good enough job showing off why it was worth upgrading. Anyways, those who wanted an X weren't sold by this show anyways. They were sold long before.
Obscure please troll elsewhere.
Still a beast. What does a bad Gamescom have to with the fact that X1X is a true Beast? The pro disappointed without hype. That is because Sony did not give it any real value other than being more powerful than the base. Did even release with 5 enhanced games. Boost mode was not even ready at launch. Already behind the X in support and the X hasn't even released yet. Come on man, just give up that fight. This is a lose, lose situation.
@Obscure It also doesn't change the fact it's an impressive console with no games.
No, 2-4k/30fps is not a beast. Also not a beast when lacking exclusives. People will be building 2k-4k/30fps x86 clones when the xbonex releases to measure cost-per-frame, ultra effects, real 4k vs dynamic, etc. Remember not all games will be 4k/30fps with max graphical effects. And devs keep forgetting that many of us would like a solid 1080p/60 option on these dynamic 4k touted console games. It would be out of character for MS to do gamers any favors.
They couldn't hype it up. It's no where near as powerful and they would have been laughed at. Sony was afraid and worried it would split it's fan base, because Sony fans were so up in arms about resolution and having to buy another console. What it comes down to is the difference between the original Xbox One and X. It's so drastic and focused on what gamers wanted; power packed, compact, with minimal frills. It's an excellent base to begin a new era, with no one left behind and including PC to boot. Enhanced titles, Play Anywhere, Game Pass, Live, Gold, and tons of BC. I can wait for more titles to be published by MS. I have so many still left to finish and multiplayer games to come back to time and time again.
Foxtrot, You're trying way to hard and honestly starting to sound way to bias and ignorant! X1X is a mid-gen upgrade just like the ps4 but a much much more powerful upgrade. We all know that Xbox in it's current state is missing exclusive console games but we also know games are coming at somepoint. Any hype for X1X is warranted. The specs are phenomenal and makes ps4 look like a joke (which of course is never talked about) just like playstation exclusives my Xbox look lol a joke. Your little arguments and others aren't proving a thing and not helping the situation your fellow gamers are in. Just hatred and ignorance that's simply unable to see the bigger picture.
Lol. If PS4 pro wasn't hyped what was the reason for it? Stop recreating history.
@ Obscure_Observer And none of those things you listed are good reasons for anyone to pre-order in the first place. But lets be honest that's not why hardcore xbone fanboys are getting it anyway.
I recall them bringing up 4k more than a few times. Fact is Sony should never have brought out the pro with the user base it already has. There literally was no need for it. they had the more powerful console already. They had nothing to prove. .MS is in a great position because they lost a good chunk of their user base with the poor reveal, weaker console and higher price point with the Xbox one. Not every gamer is loyal to one brand...many go back and forth with the highest specked console for cross plats mostly. MS will get at least some of those gamers back..How many? Time will tell.
Maybe, but PS4 Pro at least got a new showcase title like Horizon. And like Fox said, the Pro hasn't been hype like the X has been. The pro was hyped and still is as an upgrade option, while MS has been all out with the X, and I don't blame been after all the bad press they have got with the xbone.
"Anyways, those who wanted an X weren't sold by this show anyways. They were sold long before." Well that's kind of the issue. There's always going to be the people at the front of the line whenever a new product releases. But they aren't the people you need to worry about convincing, and that hardcore audience comes nowhere close to making up the majority of the audience. And the thing is, even with a "ho-hum" reveal for the Pro, it's not PlayStaiton that has to shoot for the stars. The onus was on Microsoft to make a compelling statement, given their position in the market. The One X is an amazing piece of tech, and something I'm glad exists, especially because of how I've felt about the console market always having such a slow maturation when compared to PC design. It's exciting seeing the medium move forward. But other than the people who were convinced before it even had a name, has Microsoft give enough reasons to spend another $500, when the software catalog was already in question to begin with? That's the question.
yep, agree with you there. They could have done a lot better showing of why a person would NEED to get one of these.
@Obscure_Observer and @Bigpappy Getting cocky, aren't ya ? Here something interesting why Microsoft doesn't want to invest new IP anytime soon. Here the twitter from this guy : https://mobile.twitter.com/... Microsoft is going to be like Valve. Valve used to be great dev who had make many great games in the past, but now Valve completely follow profitable way and won't take a risk to make a new IP or made a sequel that people has demand it for so long. I'm not against that. But this is waste of developers talent.
I don't get Microsoft at the moment. It feels like it's sliding inexorably towards an abyss with the Xbox brand, what with the dire lack of killer exclusives, and yet it seems content to just grease its buttocks and yell "wheee" in the face of oblivion.
You can have the best perfoming games and win internet debates with it, but other than that there's nothing going for the X. If people were so easily conviced about more power, then the pro would be selling even more. Only a group of diehards will jump on it and with no new exclusives (Xbox exclusives on XboneX exclusives) they won't be able to atract new audiences. How do you think Sony manages to win NPDs and still sell consoles? It is by showing games you can't play anywhere else. So I believe that is where MS failed with the X. Their unwillingness to invest in building studios and more IPs before has caught up to them and the X will also suffer from it too like the 360 did years later, and the xbox one has been for the last 2 years and still counting...
Recently Sony itself said 1 out every 5 PS4 sales is a Pro. 20% of your sales isn't a niche. Now 5% of overall sales would be a niche product. The Pro doesn't sell more because people are buying the cheaper version as is expected. this is true of any product line (TV's, cars, watches, etc..). The same will be true with the Xbox S vs X. Phil said as much. But, back to the Xbox X. We know Sony PS4 sell a lot of consoles and 20% of that is PS4 Pros (Sony's own words) and Amazon sells crap load of PS4 s overall. Yet for all this niche talk or overhype the Xbox One X sold more in 24 hours on Amazon than PS4 Pro has done this whole year so far (1 day vs 233 days - Xbox #63 vs Pro #90 for overall 2017 sales and that is with Pre-orders stopped at this point). Remember we don't know the actual numbers of Xbox X's Amazon had. But we do know that PS4 sells very well and once again 20% (give or take) is the Pro sales (unless Sony was lying). You can do the math that is a lot of Pre Orders at Amazon. That is just small look but I assume it is similar to other major stores that have Pre-Orders. I assume Microsoft would be happy with 20% of Xbox sales being the X model. Currently that percentage of sales looks to be a lot more than 20%. I think it is much less of a niche product then you think it will be. Exclusives or no exclusives. https://www.amazon.com/gp/b...
@ImGumby I agree with you, one of The biggest differences here is that people forget Xbox One has a lower install base so moving forward the next wave of sales for Xbox One will get allocated proportionally. Xbox One X will have a large install base. Time will tell. New shoppers looking at Xbox with a great games library, current install base purchasing the stronger console, bargain hunters all want to play the best games and Xbox One X has over 140 Xbox One X enhanced games, along with Game Pass, EA Access. Many factors involved with sales of Xbox One X. Add in Forza 7, PUBG, Cup head, Super Lucky's Tales, Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2 all will give a boost to the Xbox One X, plus third party enhanced games, in the next six months are going insane. It's a strategic move. Well done team Xbox.
E3 2018 will hopefully be a showcase for the X. Just in case anyone thinks there is no reason to buy an X just look at this list http://www.ign.com/wikis/xb...
That comparison doesn't mean much. A new consoles launch is where the largest influx of sales is. If it werent for the fact we dont know how many were available, I would argue that ps4 pro being only 30 behind is telling. Ps4pro launched last year during the holiday, and that's where it's major sales were, just like the one x will have its major sales this holiday
Was disappointing for sure.
Isn't everything Microsoft does a "vain" attempt? These guys likely sit around and smell their own farts, as they think everything they are involved with, is pure gold.
It sold me I preordered 2, next
Wasn't a fan of the duration....show should have been an hour. I knew it would be a lot of e3 repeat so expectation was metered.
All of their focus should be on xbox one. Not on the X Sony focus is on PS4 with a small mootness towards PS4 Pro
All of these Microsoft articles is keeping a smile on my face. I hope it all works out for Microsoft though since I like to play their games on my PC like Forza
how dare you? the disagrees have proven that you can't be liking playing MS games on PC. they are exclusives...so you must play them on the XboneX /s
The media in full force attacking Xbox One X.
When you make huge stupid decisions that anyone with common sense wouldn't make your pretty much asking the media to attack you. You have a system that's been out for awhile and everyone everywhere is saying you don't have enough games. So what do Microsoft do? They build another system not games. Now everyone everywhere is saying you have two systems with no games.
@magicted Nothing you say justifies attacks on Xbox. The Xbox One X is a beast. We all recognize they need to strengthen there first party output. However, nothing justify attacks. I am still looking forward to PUBG, Forza 7, Super Lucky's Tale and Cuphead over any other exclusive this holiday with the exception of Mario Odyssey on Switch. Since I don't own switch it does not affect me.
"Justifies an attack"??? Dude, what are you on about? It's an opinion, and one grounded in fact no less. Get over it. Clearly you're a massive fan boy who has taken it personally 😂
Bang, there you go, You repeat the issues gone before, you bought the advertising 'the Xbox One X is a beast'. It may be but you're blindly missing the underlying issue with the Xbox brand. It's not the X that is the medias primary issue, its the reason for owning one.
So the media isn't allowed to criticize the absolutely terrible showing that MS had at Gamescom?
Seemed more like they were pointing out their terrible snooze fest Gamescom conference but ok.
It did sell out, so I guess it worked.
Pre-orders for the very limited Project Scorpio edition.
Wii U was sold out on pre orders and it was garbage.
No way.... I thought It was charity event. /s