With one of its biggest hits shoved to 2018, what's left for Microsoft to do for this holiday season? Quite a bit, actually. WWG explores.
I can't see how Microsoft would win this holiday at all with the lack of Xbox only exclusives and expensive console. I see Sony and Nintendo claiming this holiday for exclusive games, and more... I don't see One X now being a NPD winner at all.
I am starting to question if they even know how to move Xbox consoles at this point.
They couldn't before Crackdown 3 delay, they won't now, nothing changed
@RpgSama Agreed. People act like since there's a new Xbox One X console coming out that MS, miraculously somehow, is some massively different company now where all this stuff is going to start turning around for them, people are going to start returning to the Xbox brand, etc. Really, articles like this are a joke. There's NO WAY Xbox anything is going to "win" anything. Especially not this holiday season.
All this Crackdown 3 debacle is hilarious! According to fanboys, this games was a crap with Xbox 360 graphics and would be DOA. And now with the delay news, is the most important game ever! To the point that its delay will hurt (if not doom) the Xbox One X sales. Just like Scalebound that was crap game with an unlikeable character with dubsteps, then, after the cancellation, turn into the most important and interesting game on Xbox. Lmao!
Scalebound does actually appeal to ps gamers, I would argue more so than xbox gamers. The style and everything Now into the meat, I do somewhat agree with your premise but part of these things are due in part to the significance these titles are held in. That's more of where I think these articles are aimed from. Not a omg this is horrible but a childish aim at the few hardcore that used this as a argument fodder.
Yes Crackdown was really poor looking but that wouldn't have stopped some from wanting to see crap shoved down throats. However someone at Microsoft has integrity so now the masses are saved from the corporate slaves. Microsoft should be applauded.
Before this E3 crackdown 3 is the next great thing on xbox and can make your console 10 times powerful with cloud... Then after E3 it become a traditional crackdown game with fun gameplay.. then it got delay becomes the game no one cares.... you see the other side of this debacle?
When you don't have games every game becomes 'the most important ever'. Same thing happened with qb, recore, Alan wake, scalebound, etc... the list goes on. to be fair it also happened with the PS3 (lair comes to mind)
It's the Xbox fans who won't shut up about how the game is going to be so much fun and some who go on to say how it's going to destroy anything Sony has that caused that. Hype for the game is disproportionate to what the game is. CD3's delay won't hurt or help the X1X. The only people that really care about the game to begin with will likely buy an X1X anyways. SB had a lot more potential than CD3 did IMO, and was much more interesting, and even looked and played better than what I've seen from CD3. Sea of Thieves is being neglected by MS, and to me, outside Forza, is probably their most interesting game with a lot of potential to draw in a huge crowd.
Except none of those exclusive titles will outsell those individual 3rd party titles on each platform. Nintendo will win cause their console is the best for kids and offers the most uniqueness among the 3. But the biggest games are on both systems
I don't even see that many high profile 3rd party multi-plats releasing this holiday outside the normal yearly releases and a new AC. Sony has most of those marketing rights on lock, so MS can't even show off how much better they may be on the X1X. I doubt the OGX1 is going to pick up steam this holiday. General uptick in sales from a new console release I'd expect, and likely, MS could win a month, or maybe two with it, but I wouldn't say it's because they suddenly have a huge influx of new users, rather a set of users who are buying in for a second time. This holiday is rather dry all around really unless you're into the typical holiday fare. Edit: I just went and looked up releases for this holiday, and Nintendo actually has a pretty good line up. Sony has some decent stuff in there too. MS, outside Forza, is all multi-plat outside Super Lucky Tale, and I think that is certainly going to be overshadowed by Mario and Crash. Heck, Mario + Rabbids is looking pretty fun and would overshadow it. For those interested http://www.gameinformer.com... Maybe it's not a complete list, I dunno,but I haven't seen a lot of hype for this holiday's releases to date as a whole. New Mario and CD3 were about the most hyped things this year for the holiday. Despite the disappointment I have with the new way GT:S is going, I still feel it's going to garner a lot of attention this holiday, so that's going to overshadow MS new "most powerful console".
Sea of Thieves is not out till next Christmas
Did Microsoft even have a chance to win the holiday season with Crackdown 3 in the first place
Yeah I don't understand why someone thought this in the first place. I'd love to know why people all of a sudden care so much about this game. No one after the first one seemed to even care about the series and even then the first wasn't some huge success. So yeah, while Crackdown 3 being delayed sucks for those who have been waiting it's hardly going to affect MS or Xbox's bottom line at the end of the day.
It'll be 1. Switch 2. PS4 3. Xbox One The One X is way too expensive and the PS4 will drop price while the Switch will get Holiday bundles
PS4 will get bundles too, COD, Star Wars, Destiny alone will shift a lot. A Crash or Uncharted bundle will do would too. Fifa bundle in Europe will shift a ton too and if GT gets one too it will destroy sales. If there is a price drop goes along with those bundles I doubt PS4 being outsold. So I would say most likely. PS4 Switch Xbox Would be the most likely order of sales. Considering Playstation moves about 7-8 million every Christmas, I doubt even the Switch could overcome that.
Some people acted like it. Otherwise, no, not really. Unless Terry Crews is really that influential.
you guys can do battle.. just give me my X..
LOL. Now crackdown is the most important game ever made.
No but as an x1 owner myself it's one less game in a horrible year to look forward to.
Now crackdown doesn't matter. Generalizations work both ways.
The truth is crackdown looked like crap. If you are an Xbox only owner looking forward to Crackdown, you should be HAPPY it got delayed. The game looks like and indie game and not very organized gameplay wise. .
Now the deflecting begins. When is more options for gamers a bad thing? MS spent time at E3 and money pushing hard for this title then go and delay it. Its like MS has no clue how to budget or move product or planning.
@Woolly_ "you guys can do battle.. just give me my X.." Lol! Well said! XD
Sounds like some cheesy early 2000's ad or something. "You peasants can keep fighting. I'm going eXtreme on my X! RADICAL!!!"
New games won't be pushing sales of the Xbox One this year. The Xbox One X has very niche target audience. MS can only have a strong holiday, by relying on strong bundles.
What bundles can they really do? Sony has Destiny, COD WW, Star Wars BF2 and Fifa 18. If they do Crash, Uncharted and GT (even for Europe only for GT) and anything Xbox tries is meaningless. Switch already has Splatoon 2 and if the do Mario Rabbids, Mario Oddysey, Mario Kart or Zelda will do extremely well. Xbox released Halo Wars 2 ( which sold terribly ) and pretty sure they will try Forza 7 bundle. What else after that? Super Lucky Tales? Assassin Creed Origins maybe? Maybe Shadow of War? None of those will come close to what their competitors are offering.
No it can't, Switch and Ps4 are juggernauts, XBox is irrelevant outside USA and even there is doing terrible. Those are facts not trolling.
I think Xbox took an L in 2017 on the exclusives front. They are aligning themselves for the future. With that being said they still have an excellent system coming, I am still eager to play Cuphead, Forza 7, Player unknown Battleground and Super Lucky's tale. In addition, the Xbox One X is still going to be the place to play the best third party titles. These changes line up with there goal to work hard on the Xbox One X launch and future output of providing content for the next few years.
Cuphead isn't exclusive it's coming to Steam and possible switch last one is open for debate
Battleground will come to ps4 eventually
Nah! Switch will dominate the holidays granted Nintendo has stock available.
It depends on sony's price cuts and bundles
I went looking up the games for this holiday, and Id o have to admit, Nintendo has a pretty solid line up of games coming this holiday.
Solid line up, but, with Star Wars coming with a new movie, COD WW, Fifa, Destiny bundles that will heavily be advertised, I still see PS4 taking it. If Crash, Uncharted or GT bundles happen too then I doubt even the Switch could outsell it. If Sony really wanted to kick it up a notch just release all those bundles and a temporary $50 price drop and it would dominate.
Im not sure how they go from the XBOX 360 being a real competitor to the XBOX One having less games
No I don't even think they can beat Nintendo
People really overestimate power in determining a console's success. Historically, the most powerful console of each gen never beats out its direct competitors. The exception to that rule has been the PS4. That doesn't make that the new standard, as PS4's success was due to much more than it's hardware advantage. This year has been one, if not the, worst years for software in the history of the Xbox brand. A $500 limited 4K console isn't gonna change that. The Xbone isn't selling horribly because people are waiting for X; it's selling horribly because the vast majority of people, who have any interest in it, already own one, and there's nothing coming down the line that screams "you need to buy a Xbone for this, now!" The power argument went out the window with the exceptional success of the Switch. If people cared so much about power, how is a 720p portable/ 900p console kicking the shit out of Xbone in its strongest region? Get real; it's about the games, and both Sony and Nintendo are dropping the bombs.
People like new stuff, so they certainly could, but I think the Switch will be the top seller this Christmas if Nintendo can make enough.
I think so too. Ps4 will carry on at a stead pace as it has been this while time, xbone x will see some nice numbers I'm sure but will likely be mostly from existing xbone gamers and if Nintendo gets their stocks right, I can see Switch flying off the shelves in the lead up to Christmas.
I will be getting an X1X just to have the superior cross plats at a reasonable price compared to higher end pc's.... Just got the Switch this past weekend and am navigating through the wonder of Zelda... The console is great...and should sell staggering numbers...hopefully encouraging more third party support.
@ninsigma "xbone x will see some nice numbers I'm sure but will likely be mostly from existing xbone gamers" You could have left it exactly at Xbox will see nice numbers, the fact that you added "be mostly from existing xbone gamers", reads as if you undermine what most systems sales do. Which is sell to existing gamers.
I'm not undermining anything. I believe the pro is also selling mostly to existing PS gamers. It's just how I feel each machines sales will differ. I believe switch will sell ridiculous numbers once stock gets fixed vs xbone x selling mostly to gamers who own an Xbox one already. It's not really the same as all other consoles though because pro and x are both part of an existing ecosystem. So what I'm saying is pro and x are being and going to be bought by people who are already in the ecosystem i.e ps4 and Xbox one vs the start of a new gen where it's really up in the air on who's gonna buy what. Not trying undermine anything, just saying how I see it.
I think PS4 and Switch will be pretty close, but if Nintendo can provide stock, I can certainly see the Switch as the hot new thing for this holiday. Couple mario games and a strong marketing campaign won't hurt it's chancees.
Super lucky tales will save Xbox one
Yes, I think so
I am disappointed Crackdown isn't ready yet. But, as long as they are making it better I am fine. Everyone complains that MS only has exclusives for the holiday season so they are spreading things out which is good. Sea of Thieves and Forza Motorsports both seem to be high quality exclusives for the 4K console. It won't be until a new IP, Gears, or Halo before we see a 4K title where it truly matters.
@NeoGamer232 I have always felt that giving developers time to improve is the best plan of action. Looking at Xbox One 2018 software It's going to be great. There is no denying Crackdown 3 Black Desert Online Sea of Thieves Darwin Dwarves The Last Night State of Decay 2 Ashen Ori and Blind Forest 2 Forza Horizon 4 ??? Halo 6 ???? I hope they bounce back next year with all titles mention above and a few more surprises. Will make it an incredible year.
Spreading things out to one game a year after the last exclusive they produced isn't what I'd really consider a good thing. If it makes the game better though, then fair enough.
First both Sea of Thieves and Forza Motorsports are coming out as exclusives. Second, Microsoft under Phil Spencer has been changing course on approach and delivery of exclusives since he took over in 2014. Contrary to what many people believe, it takes years to change course fully. They cancelled games that they didn't think would be successful. New games don't appear with a wave of a magic wand within a 2-3 years though. They take many years to incubate and become reality. We are probably nearing the end of this change now and I assume Microsoft will start delivering great first party games within the next year and then they will consistently ramp up delivery after. We will have to wait and see.
SoT has a 2018 release date, CD3 will release approximately one year after Halo Wars 2, and Forza is coming I believe 8 months after HW2, and then about 5 months before CD3....give or take a month on all those. So yeah, about 1 game a year, particularly in the AAA side of things. on your 2nd, yeah, MS, under Spencer has been changing course on approach and delivery of exclusives, and that course has a negative momentum. Every year since Phil has taken over has seen fewer exclusives than the last, and for the future, they look to have almost nothing that was started under Spencer, as all the currently known games, outside the next Forza, were started before Phil. Phil isn't improving things, as things are actually worse....at least for what the consumer is receiving. Go by the numbers, and you'll see what I'm talking about. I agree that it takes years to change course, and I have even said so, but it's been about 3 years since Phil took over, and at the very least, he should have something to be able to show for his time there. As of right now, all he's promised is they've signed for a game or three that will be ready TO SHOW in about 2 years. To me, that would be unacceptable for a console maker. Phil's been given time to produce content, but all he's done is build this reputation and perception that MS is doing great with games, despite not actually showing any tangible results. Xbox fans are placing all their hopes on promises, and Spencer, and he hasn't done anything to deserve that. The time for benefit of the doubt is either done, or quickly coming to an end, and I believe he, and MS, needs to be asked and they need to answer seriously without the meaningless platitudes just what the hell they've been doing for the past three years to right the ship.
I don't see it. Xbox One X costs 600$ in Canada, include taxes and at least one game to play and you are looking at 700$ purchase.. I simple don't see it beating cheaper PS4 bundles and Switch is quickly gaining popularity in sales. On top of that I except PS4 price drop by Christmas. As for 2018 - Sony has some major exclusive system sellers. It's going to be a very hard road ahead for Xbox Division. Competition is always great for us the consumers, hopefully Microsoft picks up the the pace.
Wow! that seems like a desperate article!
Pretty sure the Switch will dominate the holiday season, second being the PS4. The One X is way too expensive to dominate the holiday season and games wise, software wise its basically the same, as the biggest games are on both system.
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