The Xbox One X is an extremely powerful system, and a far more accomplished piece of hardware than any other console currently on the market.
Damn straight it's s good move
It would be pretty stupid on the devs part to make games exclusive to either the PS4 Pro or XB1X. Not just because it would alienate base model owners, but also because the sales would be terrible. Neither one of these consoles will have the install base to justify releasing exclusive games.
Eventually sony and ms will have to alianate the base ps4 and xb1 consoles when the next gen arrives. I figured ms would have been the first to hit the reset button but i was mistaken. The 360 faired much better where the xb1 seems to be losing steam much faster.
Exclusives could help build the install base for the upgraded consoles tho.
Microsoft have said all along they want the Xbox to be an upgrade console from now on so no new genes so to speak. What will be interesting is when the next Xbox is released in 3 ish years time will the Xbox One still be supported or will this drop off and the Xbox x is the new Xbox one. Interesting times in the gaming world for sure
Yep, can't really fault them for this move, especially when there's a big price difference and barrier to entry between vanilla Xbox and premium experience Xbox. Doing the opposite would have been the worst possible move for them.
It's probably one of those things that wouldn't have happened for a while anyways. Outside of some indie dev, or some really high end game, no publisher is going to ignore the larger install bases. If the mid-gens gain a sizable portion of the market in the future, then maybe exclusives would be more viable, but more likely, a new gen will be here by then. A dev may very well want to make something exclusive, but they have to make a profit, and publishers will insist on it.
It wouldn't make any sense at all to alienate an existing fan_base so soon. Also, the best of Xbox One has yet to release... Halo 6 and whatever else they've got behind the scenes. --
They've already alienated much of their fanbase. "True 4k" is supposedly their standard, as if the 25+ million players with original Xbox Ones now don't matter since they're playing at 720p-900p dynamic resolution. Halo 6? You're joking right? Lol
What about the pro and ps4 ?
True 4k and uncompromised 4k statements made by ms remind me that they are still up to their old tricks and lies. How can anyone take them seriously when we found out ms's definition of uncompromised 4k meant basically... 4k 60 on most first party, single player games, and indies but dynamic 4k 30 on most AAA 3rd partys, multiplayer games... Had they said "uncompromised 4k single player experience" they would have been closer to reality.
& how many of either companies gamers actually have a 4k TV & the tech to really enjoy 4k ? Not that many I would be willing to bet 4k won't be standard for a long while
@Sk8, your comments are full of delusion. go do some research. Xbox One X will have better looking and playing games thats FACTS. PS4 Pro is a checkerboard machine with almost all enhanced games using the technique. Dude make a list of enhanced games on both consoles and X trounces the Pro handily with way more native 4k games. Even the checkerboard games will still look way better as it will have better textures. Ps4 Pro still uses base PS4 assets. Whereas alot of X games have high+ PC setting.
"Dude make a list of enhanced games on both consoles and X trounces the Pro handily with way more native 4k games." But make a list of simply games, brand exclusive, and the PS4 will likely beat the XbX handily. Here, you can go on and on about how its only about power and quantity, but time and time again library diversity, quality and just being decent enough - as contradictory as that may sound - is what's proven matters. MS have repeatedly focused on the wrong things, not only told and insisted to their target audience that they were right but by all signs believed it themselves, only to them somehow be surprised when a good chunk of the actual market fails to buy their product.
At that time back then, the last gen I think already had a superior library. I still wonder whats to come. No Bioshock, no Silent Hill, no Borderlands, no new FF, no new Diablo...
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Extremely powerful and far more accomplished. Get a room, gamingbolt
I will wager the model that iphone and ipad started will be the path for xbox. X1x will become base when x2x is made in 4 years as price drops
In other words "Microsoft Not Allowing An Actual Good Reason To Own An Xbox One X Is A Good Move, Says Aaero Dev"
That's so ignorant it's scary. *scratches head* You're wrong, btw. Exclusives. Are. Bad. For. Every. Single. Consumer. Thank god some people are smart enough to see that. Cudos to M$ for dropping the ridiculous/manipulative child scam that is the kids toy walled garden. Thank. Me.
SO are you saying you would be one f the first to congratulate MS if they released Halo 6 or Forza on either Nintendo, Sony or Steam? If there are no exclusives for a console the only reason people would consider buying it is because of a power gap for maybe 2 years. That isn't enough for most people. I bought PS4 be a use of the exclusive library that Sony offers. Yea I happen to play 3rd party multi platforms. But if I had an Xbox I couldn't play Hellblade, Paragon, worlds of final fantasy, I wouldn't have VR and I wouldn't have been able to play awesome games like journey in 60fps or Last of Us remastered.
Sorry, but. that's. stupid. So. no. thanks. from. me! and Exclusives. Are. Not. Bad. For. The. Consumer. Unlike. People. Like. You. That. Says. They. Are. Which you are only the minority group think so. Majority don't give 2 ***** about you thinking that exclusives are bad!
Exclusives aren't always bad, but it's highly situational to the game and user base of the consoles. In this case, while it probably wouldn't be bad for the game itself if it was exclusive to the X1X(or PS4P if we want to include it), chances are, the sales of the game may not overcome the cost incurred to make it. When the devs start making games exclusively that would require that much more power, there is more cost involved due to the detail that typically gets put into them. Assuming we're talking AAA games of course....in which case, exclusives aren't that common anyways outside some cases.
Microsoft needs to do something to differentiate it from the rest of the pack. Just simply being "beastly" aint going to cut it. Where are the must have games only found on nintendo and sony consoles? Are you xbox fans mainly getting the xbox1x so you can play most 3rd partys slightly better than the ps4pro? Because, lets not act like the xb1x is that much stronger than the pro when the fact still remains... Both consoles are still tethered to their vanilla versions and for that reason.... No mp games will run at 60 fps because of parity factors. Soo its 1400-4k on the pro and what 1800-4k on the xb1x... Where only single player games and indies will have the possibility** to be 4k 60 on the x. Which is your halos, gears, and forzas... Ohh not to mention luckys tale and minecraft... The xb1x would have been better off in my opinion if it had exclusives found only on the x... Id love to debate that.
You had my agree till the exclusives for x part, honestly ms needs exclusives (and good ones, quantum break......:( sad face) what they need to do is make the exs as good as it can get on both the base and on x. Then raise up the x ver as nice as possible but not enough to alienate the base........ wait, this sounds familiar 🤔...hmm. Sony is way to head of the game this gen lol
Dont you think though, once the xb1s reaches 149-199 pricerange (which is almost there already) it will be possibly phased out and replaced by the x as the lead console? Ms have a history of phasing things out once a more viable solution arises (esp if when in 2 years the xb1x is 249-299 and is the console gamers prefer). Then, the x will in fact, no longer be tethered to the xb1s and finally be able to reach its full potential. Look at how fast the og xb1 and xb1s dropped in price? I dont see the x being any different. All i was getting at above with my last statement is that the xb1s is holding the xb1x back. If we want to see what the xb1x can do now... I say we rip the bandaid off and ms cut their losses. Either ms should have waited and started next gen in a few years or pressed the reset button now and got a jump on next gen. This mid gen upgrade was a science project for sony where it didnt matter if they did this or not. In 2013 this gen was basically decided and with every passing year the majority ruler only became more and more obvious... On ms part the xb1x was needed to not become even less relevant in the gaming community and to me seemed like a mee too console as it was announced directly after sonys pro. This mid gen nonsense seems ridiculous either way as the majority rules and thats on the base consoles. By the time the majority of gamers are moving on to the x and pro as the consoles mainly in demand... The ps5 and nextbox will be announced. All this mid gen crap did was fan the console wars even harder. It wasnt needed at all. Im ok with it just as long as it doesnt prolong gen 8 even longer. 2019 is 6 years. I want the ps5 to be announced that fall with a 2020 release date with the nextbox either launching the same time or a year later like with the pro and x.
PS4 base and PS4 pro games are SO similar Sony runs the the risk of alienating Pro customers not base base customers. Lots of ppl out there with pro like why did I buy this it's almost a Unperceptible difference. Probably why pro sales are low.
"Microsoft needs to do something to differentiate it from the rest of the pack. Just simply being "beastly" aint going to cut it." Lol
Getting the X to play 3rd party games that look and perform significantly better than the Pro. I guess 1800p checkerboard vs native 2160p with more stable framerates is slightly nowadays.
Ok, come nov we will see what games run at 60 fps... I will agree you will get better resolutions on the x, im not debating that... But not 1800-native 4k at 60 fps on an overclocked jaguar cpu. That aint gonna happen buddy. Let me clarify here, NO AAA 3rd partys will run at 1400-4k 60 on the x, hell prob not even 1080 60 on the x.
Never said anything about 60 fps. Speaking purely on resolution, the difference between native 4k and 1800p is larger than the difference between 1080p and 900p.
"Speaking purely on resolution, the difference between native 4k and 1800p is larger than the difference between 1080p and 900p" Actually No. Checkerboard 4K rendering to native 4K is of diminishing returns. Let's look at a beach it's boulders versus rocks for an (extreme) illustration, that was org XB1 to PS4, now we move to XB1X vs PS4 Pro. To illustrate we start looking at sand in Hawaii compared to sand in CapeCod, USA. From the same distance that we were looking at the boulders and rocks. While the sand in Hawaii is much more fine than the course sand at the Cape we can't tell the difference really from that same distance as we were from the boulders and rocks. Sure if you get on your hands and knees ya it's a big difference from 6 inches away! Most sit at least 6 feet away from their sand errrr TV. What Scorpio will hopefully offer is more detail, more stuff/clutter in worlds, better npc, weather effects, physics, AI. That should be the promise of XB1X, not 4K over Checkerboard (XB1X looks to have Checkerboard offerings anyway) , but will we see these details in 3rd party games not so sure due to parity with XB1+s and to some extent PS4+Pro. For MS first party games for sure we will, except for 30/60fps gotta keep parity withXb1 for MP. It's going to be a real hard road for XB1X/MS
Define significantly. In any case, if it's resolution, maybe wait until we see more of those 3rd party multi-plats that actually are significantly better since it seems right now, all the one's announced are using checkerboarding. Maybe you're out of date on what to hype up, but right now, "native" 4K isn't it.
Why would they want to alienate their fan base?