While the details regarding No Man's Sky multiplayer are still surrounded in mystery, some users have managed to discover other players.
Maybe they should have just waited and released the game around now.
Maybe they didn't have a choice.
They had a choice.
They had a choice, but they decided for business rather than quality - much like Activision or EA.
@Green. not sure you understand how publishers work.
Is this the 'Sony had a gun to Sean Murray's head' conspiracy theory?
tbh i think they lied to everyone,not just us but sony etc too. limited to 16 people though? lol or is that the only peopel whoi play this crap
I am almost certain that Sony made yhrm rushed the release of this. To be fair, it did get delayed many times so I don't blame them. If anything hello games have learned to not announce games do early
@3-4-5 The game was self published on all platforms.
Couldn't that be said for every game then?
How can anyone of you know for a fact that they did have a choice to when to release it? You think they had unlimited funds? Don't judge unless you truly were in their shoes. Seems to me they are doing a lot of things to set things right, and I admire that they don't try to hype anything up but just quietly work away and then release this massive free update that appears to be one of several as multiplayer is stated to become more fleshed out. Still not my type of game, I need more art direction personally that this kind of procedural system doesn't seem to be capable of producing. Worlds are ok, but the characters/animals are pretty horrible. For those that don't care, it's fantastic as there are upsides to it. One being a small team being able to create a huge game. But in the end I just wish people didn't feel the need to judge so much without knowing the details of the situation. That goes with a lot of events happening in the world. A lot of people just seem to want to judge other people negatively. I don't get that desire to put other people down.
They had an offer from Sony to get help both in form of personel and funds, HG refused. The excuse that they didnt have enough money or people doesnt hold water.
Yes, they should. This is what happens when you launch a game long before it's complete. A bad name is very hard to erase, but good luck devs you're going to really need it.
The good news is this though. Our reaction had an effect. They have worked hard and released 3 substantial patches for free. Also, this patch is the first of 3 Titan patches coming, so we have a ton more on the way. There's something about this game that I LOVE. But about 80 hrs in I put it down because it lacked focus and shit to do. Now, we have a ton to do, and I can't wait to jump back in.
Nope, deadlines, contracts, etc.... plus the planned dlc updates from the gitgo, they knew they would bounce back. They just didnt know how many ignorant people and trolls would be hating on the game.... Never seen anything like it. Saw some youtube comments saying "still sucks" BS....
Ok, everyone gets they released it too early. Fine, fair, whatever. But give credit where it's due. Sure some people (including myself) bought this game at $60. At the time was it worth it? Probably not. But now we find ourselves with a game that has tripled+ its original content within a year and seems to continue to get support through the relentless (some justified) hate. But those people who did buy it at full retail can now enjoy a much better, more content filled game.
I got my moneys worth the first time, all this new stuff has made me redownload, its like a second game almost now, yeah there were issues but i enjoyed the game regardless, will deffo be getting stuck back into it.
My thoughts exactly. The recent E3 would have been a good time to announce and now release a polished feature rich game, that actually works. I might pick it up now, looks interesting.
Probably Still amazes me people defend this. If you look at the massive list of stuff said in countless interviews by the team before launch it's still a fraction of what was promised I'm suddenly supposed to be grateful and forgive them for giving me a fragment of that....but even if we got everything the fact still is they still lied and disappointed people. Other studios do shit and we don't forgive or forget so why are these guys any different. If you are back into it now...fine but don't defend them and make out that it's "over" because it's not.
We basically have everything now that they promised, minus the few things we don't have for some of the additions and I'd say it's pretty even
No man's sky? More like One man's joke!
You confuse saltyness with disappointment. Have u read the article? Encounter with another player doesn't mean you will see them in the form of an avatar like the races u encounter. But merely as a glowing ball of light. Even u could agree that that is a joke
@Phoenix76 Does it matter?
I would say it lays the foundation for coming mp maybe even with the next update. The game will someday be what we all want it to be. Better late than never i would argue.
Hilarious - rolls eyes -
One Man's Lie
The Game Crashes ?
Orbs? Really? Smh. Was it that much harder to make us appear as an astronaut?
They probably have no real design direction for player characters, weak but kind of expected.
They’ve said this is a first step towards more in depth MP. Given what they’ve done so far I see no reason to doubt they’re on top of this.
Do they have a multiplayer economy yet? that'd be sweet. I don't see them ever having a multiplayer like you have in most games, but for outer space, I don't see why not.. ship battles would be great!
Only 4 updates so far really? Was it that much harder to make 30 by now? < thats what you sound like....
Just to show the character? Well, I guess that'd be simple enough, don't see why they couldn't do that. But to have them interact.. no way, that's too complicated. They would need to create an entirely new engine to pull this off. Think of it this way, you have other multiplayer games whose maps are already on the disc or HDD. But to do something like this, for players to interact and play together in NMS, the servers would need to handle gigabytes of data to share the details of the world, since NMS code procedurally generates it, having a seed is not enough. With just showing a players character, you will not see the same world that the other player does. I don't see a point of seeing the other players' character if you can't interact.. maybe check their gear and ask about how they got it? I guess.
Okay, rethinking. Maybe data won't be as huge, since texture are on the disc/hdd. So I suppose if there was way to sync the generation between players, then maybe, but I'd still assume it's a lot of data.
Characters are much different, they animate and interact with objects. This already is more mp than they promised anyway. They never promised you'd be able to interact with online players neither what they'd look like.
They should make a pocket universe where players can see each other. Possibly just one, or a few planets where they can do what they want, like PvP, trade, do missions, etc.
Can you imagine the excitement of naming a plant with your friends? This is what made people so upset, that you couldn't do things like that.
How could anyone in their right mind say this is worth 60 USD? I'm so glad I didn't fall for the hype.
Are you suggesting single player games are not worth $60? If not, what metric do you think justifies that price, out of curiosity? I’ve not sunk anywhere near as many hours into another single player game as NMS within the last year, so from my perspective of course it’s worth it. The idea of being able to voip/vaguely interact with other players is just bonus really.
Imo this is a 20 dollar game. I cant think of any other game made by a team of 10 people launching for full MRSP this gen or last.
Im suggesting that games that are crappy from the majority of peoples' views, and also misleading from the beginning, aren't worth 60 USD. There's a reason that the game has a 5/10 on steam, and has also dropped price so quickly. No, I'm not saying that price drops equate to low quality games, I'm simply saying that bad reviews + price drops + extremely bad PR equates to a low quality game. Yes, I'm sure that there are some out there that really enjoy the game, thats perfectly fine.
The game was as good as other 60 dollar games made by devs with 5 or 6 times the staff.. I've spent the equivalent in UK currency (40 quid or so) on games and been hugely disappointed in the past. I personally loved the game and I'm glad it did well financially. With the updates it's getting better and better!
For a small studio they on the right track. Taking there time, putting out good quality updates. Listening to the fans. Seeing what will work and what won't.
Yeah, they decided to take their time AFTER so the cash-in.
Never got the game probably never will, but the amount of hate is a bit absurd. It's a small team who are still givong free updates and supporting it. People could at least respect that unlike countless other major companies out for a money grab
I don't care if its a 10 or 100 man team. That doesn't change how they conducted themselves in order to sell their game. What you call free updates are many of the things that were supposed to be in the game 1 year ago so if they had respected consumers by telling them that it was an early access game and sold it for €20 or €30, they would have avoided all the backlash they got.
They had their company flooded and lost their building and data. They were funded by sony after I have to assume some pressure was on them to produce. The fact they are still supporting the game tells me they had an image that they want to realize even if it post launch.
Again, I don't see why any of that should matter in regards to how they behaved towards their potential costumers. Hello games actually had a lot of goodwil from gamers but the way they behaved led to many gamers feeling cheated out of their money so their reaction wasn't just to be expected, it was also justified.
It's a small team who lied over and over about stuff which was going to be in the game but in the end wasn't I mean...how can you defend them. The cards are laid right out of the table about what went down and what happened....there's a reddit thread listing every single thing they said was going to be in the game but wasn't. Small team or not it's irrelevant they knew what they were doing.
One man lied. I don't remember seeing the other 9 lying. They just worked on the game, is it their fault the owner of the company and money men over promised? Should everyone at Lionhead by strung up for lying about Kinect? Remember Milo? The people who make the game are not to blame for the stupidity of one man.
Not the point...the man was in charge, he lied, the team never said anything, they went along with it Pull your finger out and point the blame at them...not coming up with silly examples of dead companies.
It amazes me after all they're trying to do to fix the game, people like you are still willing to nail them to the cross. A company consists of a oup of people who are human like anyone else. PEOPLE ARE NOT PERFECT!
I'm not trying to nail them to a cross I just god damn hate double standards. You act like they didn't know what they were doing when they did coming up with excuses to why they said the things they did...hell they even showed things off which weren't in final game "Whoooops" "Awwww...Hello Games no biggie you bunch of little cuties" WHO ELSE BUT HELLO GAMES /s
It's okay guys he's always right
Facts are facts but if you're willing to support devs that lied in order to sell their game, released an extremely broken and incomplete full priced game that has yet to deliver on everything that was promised one year later then more power to you. This industry was already an anti consumer joke before no man's sky so what is one more studio doing an handful of underhanded business am I right?
what a shame. 5 extra years, and this game could have been something.
This is true. They should've waited than rush. But the truth is we don't know their situation back then. Maybe Sony made them to release it? Who knows.
wow as orbs. Are they too proceduraly generated? We have universe with quatrilion planets and now 5billion people will have their own proceduraly generated orb representing them. Thats a huge leap into the future of gaming.
They are no frontier or elite dangerous devs, they havnt the team or experience those devs do, that game is so much better. But even in elites earlyier state, you could see the path frontier wanted to take, with no man's sky from the beginning that has been unclear. That's the difference though with elite dangerous and no man's sky, elite is its own publisher, they can take the time all they want or rush as much as they want no man sky devs have to play biatch. The more different backers a studio has the more those backers want or need there money back, patience isn't a thing publishers or funders have that's why quality of our games has famously dropped not because it's the studios fault but because of the greed.
It seems to be following the "Driveclub" approach
This game should have been early access from the outset - and work with the community to build it up.
People enjoy this game it's very decent, you get sick and tired of the moaners tbh many act like complete freaks! No matter what free features are added you will still have freaks claiming "uh no thanks"
Colored glowing orbs glad they got my profile right
This idea that they shouldve waited is BS! They are a tiny studio who was nearing bankruptcy making this game, they released it because they needed the money to continue with production of this game and ensure the future of the studio. Without releasing this game when they did... the studio may have closed, or even worse, they may have taken on a partner who never wouldve allowed the support they are giving players for free. People just love to hate.
They had an offer from Sony to get help in form of funds and staff. They refused. The blame is theirs.
Everyone here commenting on how they are so disappointed about the slight multi-player aspect in the new update needs to calm the fudge down. Either you haven't played the game before now, and are mad that it is not an elite dangerous clone; or, you just didn't bother to read anything hello games has been saying about this new patch and how it effects the game universe. This is the second time that they have rebuilt their universe to accommodate whiners. Why don't you create something, instead of sitting on your mom's couch complaining about something someone else made, and asking for more snacks. You are not entitled to anything. Hello games has expanded, and is still expanding their original vision to accommodate whiners like you. So you can go right ahead and fudging fudge yourself. While you're doing that, if you could manage to shut the fudge up, that would be great. Also, please replace "fudge" with the expletive of your choice, since I am unable to curse in front of children.
U got that wrong, most that complain dont ask for more content cause they dont want to play the game anymore.
I swear to God I want to punch the haters that appear on every single NMS article in the goddamn throat. It's a good game, it has a cult following, the updates are amazing. If you have nothing positive to say, Fuck off. It's one of my favorite games and I'm so sick of seeing something I admire greatly being shit on every time it's mentioned. Seriously, fuck you guys.