NVIDIA has expressed to be very happy for Nintendo following the success of the Switch, and has applauded the Japanese gaming behemoth.
That's a mouthful of Engrish there
Don't do anything to screw up your 3rd chance at console redemption Nvidia. Nvidia tried it first with the og xbox and then MS moved on to AMD. Then they tried with the PS3 before Sony also moved on to AMD and now they are trying with Nintendo. Lets see how this turns out ;)
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The reason for going with AMD was the decision to go x86. nvidia don't do x86, so that leaves Intel or AMD. And when it comes to GPU, Intel aren't in the same league, so the choice is simple.
It was a reverse auction. AMD were prepared to provide chips for less. Which is also why Nintendo have an old architecture GPU (maxwell based). Pascal was too expensive. Additionally AMD do x86 which sweetened the deal. Nvidia were crowed the smartest world company 2017 and are #387 on the Fortune 500. They screwed nothing up, they know what they're doing http://markets.businessinsi...
That's not always a good thing. Not being influenced by what others do is a large reason why Nintendo fails behind many trends of the industry.
And also why theyre extremely unique and stand out from the rest. I do wish they would just copy Xbox live, but other than that theyve really nailed it with Switch.
If they copied Xbox Live then expect to pay more to play online. Nintendo doesn't really have the capital to compete with Microsoft or Apple or Amazon or google. They are the few who can have cloud technology and servers around the globe. I do give Nintendo respect for using their AAA studios to push the unique features of the hardware. It is why peripherals like Kinect and Playstation Move failed and why PSVR will fail. The downside to this is what we saw with the WiiU and that is developers don't really support the uniqueness of what Nintendo tries to bring so Nintendo is often the only one that supports it.
Moldybread. Your spot on. Nintendo always make games to take advantage of their hardware where 3rd party's tend to make games for PC or console and port it to others
@Moldybread So the Oculus will fail too right?
How's that 3rd Party support?
@MegamanXXX "So the Oculus will fail too right?" Doubtful with one of the richest companies in the world behind it and it's not limited to hardware with a shelf life of 6 years that was released midspan.
They create them
Don't believe me? YOu know that photo mode that just starting to become a thing in ps4 exclusives? Dude thats been in Nintendo games since the GAMECUBE
If you want to go further back, wasn't the gameboy the original "mobile camera phone"? This was way back when I was still a kid but pretty sure I recall an accessory that let you print photos.
Photo mode hasn't just started to become a thing in PS4 exclusives, I think you're confused.
Pretty much this. Doing their own thing is important and it helps make them stand out BUT that's absolutely no excuse for some of the blatant lack of features that still don't exist on the Switch. As someone who still only has a passive interest in buying one, seeing stories about how you can't even send text based messages to online contacts just makes me want to wait another year before I even bother looking at it again. Don't even get me started on them going full retard in using a phone app to handle online social features. Nintendo offers a sort of magic that you just can't find anywhere else and that's commendable but turning your nose up to industry standards isn't going to do them any favours in the Western market.
I can't believe you tried to spin a positive trait from one of the most iconic game developers in gaming history into a negative competition spin. Way to go. Sony/M$ have WAY more to learn from Nintendo than vice versa. With Nintendo, if they got down their online service strategy and priced a bit more competitively they'd be pretty much on par for where it matters most. When it comes to games/fun/iconic ip's/replay value/co-op gaming, Nintendo is the king. ..Nintendo Switch has a shitty UI, it's missing popular features from it's last gen console, it's video game library is small atm and it's online service needs lots of work. ..Funny.. These things were heavily defended on N4g just a few short years ago... Hmm.... Wonder why?
in other words Microsoft and Sony didnt want to pay what we ask for the GPU and CPU and we were able to sell old tech to Nintendo at high price. They didnt try the newer Tegra X2 and bought the old X1 version. More Money to us. A company that is hign end GPU reach more then 12 teraflops in 2017 is powering the Switch with a 0.5 gigaflop GPU... Well its easy to see the problems....
Again, just acting likd thd Switch is just an underpowered home console and being ignorant to the fact that its a mobile device with decent mobile parts. Tegra X2 would of made Switch cost way more, would of made it bigger etc. They will most likely make a Switch plus that will use the X2 in a couple of years.
Nintendo does billions with many franchises and in my country the Switch, because of the fake demand, is already at 435 euros!!!!! Its just crazy. Tegra X2 should be the tech used, because its far better in every department. baterie drain, power and its the chip isnt bigger. The console was launch this year and was maxed out on the first big game like Zelda, that is from the Wii U, that was also underpowered and expensive. Of course that Sony or Microsoft would never go for something like this in 2017.
I must have misheard and misread all of the articles stating the Switch was a home console first and portable 2nd. Hmmmmm
Well Nvidia screwed Sony on the PS3 Chip, so I dont think Sony likes Nvidia very much.
And yet It was nvidia that didn't want the PS4 because according to them the margins would be terrible. Wise decision considering that they are the market leaders even if AMD put their chips in about what? 90 million consoles this generation or a number close to that. http://techreport.com/news/...
"A company that is hign end GPU reach more then 12 teraflops in 2017 is powering the Switch with a 0.5 gigaflop GPU." A 12tflop gpu that is put in a cpu case that won't even fit in your large backpack. See the problem? I give you that they should have used the X2, but with the price of the Switch already as high as it is, would a supposedly $350 to $400 switch with x2 chip interests alot of people? I don't think so.
Nintendo also has some archaic ways of conducting business by neglecting various market trends until they absolutely have to acknowledge them
Nvidia were smart to team up with Nintendo and make the Switch. So far so good, let's just hope Nintendo is able to sort out the shortage issue.
Funny how they call them innovators. The shield never became a hot item but when Nintendo does it and slaps a few miniature controllers on it and makes TV out work easier suddenly its innovation. It's called being carried by brand name and IP. Handhelds sell like crazy especially in Japan, so making a console that is primarily a handheld in the first place is anything but a risk. I wouldn't bad mouth a company either if I were to supply components to them for use.
Does the Shield has games like BOTW, Skyrim, Mario, Pokemon, Splatoon, Xenoblade... on it? Does the Shield come with a detachable controller? Does the Shield come with a tv dock? Heck, do the Shield even come with a charger? Because last time I checked, there is none in my box. When you put all of these things together it is easy to see why the Shield didn't set the world on fire like the Switch.
The shield never looked as sleek as a Switch so I definitely wouldn’t call them the same. The shield looks like a laptop console lool that just doesn’t work as a portable gaming system. The Switch is built with forward thinking. That’s called innovation. The iPhone wasn’t the first smartphone. It innovated the forward thinking for smartphones.
I agree with you, the problem I have with it is that this forward thinking (to me at least) is so straightforward that you can compare it to a layer of necessary polish. The hard work necessary to make the technology possible has already been done. The difference is only that the architect (Nintendo) just assembled it in a way that doesn't suck this time around. Under the hood, it's still practically the same concept.
Half true. I like Nintendo and love that they march to their own drum, but it's also a bit counterintuitive. For example, they have the most unique console of the lot. In principle, you should be able to get a Nintendo console and any other and be okay. At the same time, they still don't have an achievement system, the online service is still in its fledgling phase, and one thing they did follow, the exclusion of backwards compatibility, really wasn't ideal. Okay, sure, it makes sense since Switch doesn't support discs, but you can't re- download digital games either (and games you DID download from Wii to Wii U had you repurchase VC titles you already bought, albeit at a discount). They get in their own way quite often, but I guess I still hold faith that they'll figure it out eventually. Wii U was sobering for them I'm sure. They could still learn a thing or two, but at least they're making some progress.
With their hardware, not their software.
Who are they influenced with by their software? Or more importantly, who have they influenced with their software? They tend to give far more on that score than they take.
Coming from Nvidia? That doesn't carry a whole lot of weight, given their recent track record.
No disagreement from me. I actually don't like Nvidia's business practices myself which is a separate issue. Care to flesh out what you mean? Innovation wise they are ahead of the game in 'gaming' GPUs.
Which track record? If GeForce Experience and consumer practices in general, I agree with you. If the hardware itself, Team Green are still the ones to beat.
This would've been innovative maybe 10 years ago. A portable with detachable control sticks. Wow, the magic. Wherever did such a fabulous idea come from?
Totally agree Nintendo are innovators:)
Just f off author
They may be innovators, but they are also way out of touch. They refuse to make a powerful system, the phone app for chat is ridiculous, lack of achievements/trophies is a missed opportunity, and the unwillingness to change with the times keeps them from really catching up to the other systems. I realize the switch has sold very well but it is gonna taper off after this initial run.
"Being powered by NVIDIA’s mobile Tegra processor, the hardware manufacturer greatly benefits from the Switch’s recent success", well that explains the abundance of praise.
Pretty cool stuff. I'm happy for all concerned, including devs, who get a familiar architecture.
"And they chose us for the switch so we have no horse in the race whatsoever"
Well Nvidia. Get ready for a bunch of stupidly named self proclaimed experts on a small internet forum to disagree with you.
There's one of the experts down there ↓
Nintendo aren't "innovators", they're just a company that tries to make the cheapest possible hardware, throw in a gimmick to reel people in, and try to profit by marking everything way up. Their time has come and gone in the video game industry, their past glory is long gone.
I'm glad at least one person can see ninty for what they are.
It's the innovation that's questionable to some.
"Risk takers" and "innovators". EXCEPT THEY'VE BEEN MAKING THE SAME DAMN GAMES FOR 30 YEARS!
Yeah, and that's why they've barely invested in new IPs for the last 15 years. /s
Nintendo are innovators? What again is innovative about Nintendo Switch? It fails as true hybrid because it can't play current gen. Cell shaded games are nice & all but NONE of Switch's software released or soon to be released are giving Battlefront 2, Injustice 2, etc a run for their money. It is most definitely can play "console quality games on the go", unfortunately it's last gen console quality. Is it motion controls? Motion controls are despised by most gamers as impractical, uncomfortable, & inaccurate compared to standard controls. "Nintendo are risk takers" 100% agree. Sony & MS don't have the balls to release a handheld with an HDMI out that is significantly weaker than the generation released 3 1/2 years prior & call it a "home console 1st." They lack the courage of unveiling an online service that demands it's own cellphone & shitload of wires & dongles. They're completely short on cajones to produce ONLY G-PG13 content that can be advertised on Disney XD. THOSE F**KING COWARDS! "They're not influenced by what others do." Yup. The "others" succeed. They haven't been pushed to handheld gaming irrelevancy. It's 2017 & Nintendo's "home console first", is a glorified WII DS. The nostalgia goggles have come for many of Nintendo's base. Their pool of diehards is getting smaller by the year. Enough of the excuse making & wishful thing & hoping. Ya'll starting to sound like abused wives; "He'll change! You don't know him like I do!" Get help, Babygirl.
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“They're Not Influenced” By What Others Do...except they're getting sued for copying portions the Joy-Con design. Which for some reason, they are no articles about it on N4G; odd considering even the MSM is reporting it.The controllers are similar enough that Nintendo might have been 'influenced' by them.
Name me a console manufacturer that hasn't been sued for copyright or ip reasons.
I'd like to see AMD saying that about Nintendo, rather than the company that's getting money.
Its true but im sure they have an ulterior motive.. All that slick talk to keep people buying from nintendo so nintendo can keep buying from them..
Wait what then why do they have a paid online service like every other console manufacter then?
not being influenced by the market you are contending in gets you exactly this: an out of touch approach to the industry standards. in the future there will be history books stating: nintendo: killed by arrogance.
“They're Not Influenced” By What Others Do This means by "power"?
It's fine if Nintendo wants to march to the beat of their own drum, but it has to be for the right reasons if they want to succeed. Do they genuinely think they have stumbled upon a formula that will appeal to gamers or do they have another reason for their techniques? Are they merely too cheap to invest in proper hardware? Do they lack the technical know-how to make a proper online infrastructure? Are they hipsters for the sake of being hipsters? Do they just not think they're capable of competing with Sony and MS in the high-end console market? Only the first possible reason is acceptable. The Switch is far more in line with what gamers might want to play than their previous attempts, but here's hoping it's not a fluke that precedes another gimmicky piece of hardware no one wants.
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