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It's Time for PS Plus to Ship Up or Ship Out

PlayStation Plus' price is going up, but there are no changes to show for it. Should Sony revamp the Instant Game Collection?

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Idiom makes no sense. The well established, known idiom is "Shape up or Ship out". Google it: "used as an ultimatum to someone to improve their performance or behavior or face being made to leave."
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ocelot072450d ago

The thing is it has changed in the last few months. People have been begging for AAA games for ages. So in the last few months they gave us Just Cause 3, Assassin's Creed 4 Standalone DLC, Game Of Thrones, Until Dawn, Killing Floor 2, Tales From The Borderlands, Tearaway, Little Big Planet 3.

I think that is a big step up from the typical 8bit indie games we was receiving for the best part of 3 years. I personally don't mind the extra £10 increase. As I never pay RRP anyhow. Plus it's only an extra £10 a year if you do go with RRP prices. Plus if for what ever reason I go right Sony I don't think your service is worth £35 a year (around what I normally pay) I will simply stop paying for PS+ and there is noting Sony can do about it.

badz1492450d ago

I love it how now every article is about bashing the PS+ but last gen, when XBL Gold didn't offer anything but online MP, journalist were quick to defend it for it "offers superior online experience and cross game chat". it shows how heavily biased these journalist are against Sony. they jacked up the price to match the XBL but why is Sony the only one getting the flak? hypocrites!

hey, I'm not defending the price hike and I was one of the most vocal against the introduction of PS+ online MP model earlier this gen but I gave in and subscribed. personally, I think I got my money worth back in the backlog of games I barely have time to play all of them. but that's beside the point. the point is, MS started this whole charging for online BS and I was half expecting Sony to follow suit given how MS loyalists were gladly defending it even when it offered nothing but online MP that was free on the other platforms including the PS3 and Vita. and sadly I was right and I didn't like it. not saying that I"m liking it now but it seems like it's too late to complain about it now. should have bombarded MS like what PC gamers did back then and MS had to cancel their subscription fee but they had other options and always have as PC is open platform.

Xx_Pistol_xX2450d ago

Also nothing was said when they raised Xbox Live from 50 to 60.

OffRoadKing2449d ago

Welcome to N4G and to a larger extent gaming in general. Any time Microsoft has something coming out the attack articles start flooding in. With xbone x just around the corner the smear campaign has been at an all time high, the hope is that it will turn people away from Sony and sell more xbones, the thing is it never works but they keep trying regardless.

XisThatKid2449d ago

I'm sorry, can anyone help me? I'm in US does this effect me? My Plus runs out around next year is plus going to be 60$or more

rainslacker2449d ago

@Xis

Sony increased the price of PS+ earlier this year in the US. It doesn't affect you at the moment, but the price will be $10 more when it's time to renew, and it will affect you then.

The impact of that effect is something I can't say, since I don't know you, but basically, in general, you'll be paying $60 instead of $50 if you decide to renew.

Other effects are you lose access to any PS+ game you've gotten so far if you don't renew, nor will you be able to play online if you don't pay more.

If you do decide to renew, you'll be out an extra $10 with the price increase.

Which is more important to you is up to you. Personally, I'd just keep an eye out for specials on the cards which retailers put up from time to time. Usually during black friday, or near the end of the year you can buy a PS+ sub from Amazon, GameStop, or Bestbuy for $10-20 less than what Sony wants for it. You can always buy early, and save a bit of money.

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BrianOBlivion2450d ago

I agree. I have no interest any of the 8 or 16 bit retro indies that Sony had been chincing out at us on PS+ either.

My problem is that I already owned EVERY single one of the games you mentioned by the time Sony stepped up their game and started offering something decent.

Before anyone pipes up with "complaining about free games", they're NOT free. I pay a $70/year subscription to access them.

In other words, we're more than halfway through the year and the PS+ sub has been a total waste of money so far.

Mr_Writer852450d ago

So you want Sony to ask you before hand if you own the game first?

LOL

If you buy alot of video games than the IGC is probably not the best reason to own plus.

letsa_go2450d ago

Why the hell are you paying $70 a year for it? That's YOUR bad. It regularly goes on sale for around $40.

OffRoadKing2449d ago

I already owned JC3 and still thought it was a fantastic addition to the service, just because it doesn't benefit me personally doesn't mean many others wont now get to enjoy it. Sony cant appease everyone in the world by providing them the game or games they want to see personally added, to think so is very selfish.

BrianOBlivion2449d ago

@ Mr_Writer85
Sure, that'd be nice.

@letsa_go
That's what it costs in Canada. I made the mistake of buying several years in advance just before the price went up.

@OffRoadKing
No, not selfish. I never said anything about NOT wanting any of those games to be available on PS+.
I'm just venting that personally, so far this year, the subscription has been as I said, a total waste of money. I don't do multiplayer and I won't buy AAA games via digital download, so no discounts. As I've posted before, it's a good problem to have.

rainslacker2449d ago (Edited 2449d ago )

Back in the PS3 days, when they offered almost nothing but AAA releases, or at least A games most of the time, I also brought lots of games early on. I preordered often. And while they often put up games that I already owned, I still found value in it, because I still hadn't brought all those games, and there were games which I ended up liking because I wasn't interested in them before.

I never expected Sony to not offer up games that I didn't own already. That's just silly. People get excited for the more popular games when they're offered. If they're more popular, chances are, more people will have them. If you want high profile games on it, then chances are, they're going to offer up games you have, and the more games you buy, the higher chance you will already have the game. If you want games you don't already own, then chances are, you'll see more games that you never were interested in in the first place, and then we're right back to people complaining their offerings suck.

letsa_go2449d ago

Brian...whhhhyyyyyy when you have options like this? http://www.pcgamesupply.com...

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Princess_Pilfer2450d ago

Hooray, they're giving people 3+ year old games that everyone who wants already has!

Paying for online is a ripoff.

welly3002449d ago

Personally i would never have purchased any the games you said but yeah big improvement. Still dont justify the increase when the service started off as free on ps3. Id get rid of the games and pay for online only say £25 then offer a plus version with games.

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ApocalypseShadow2450d ago (Edited 2450d ago )

Ummm... We've been over this already. New articles be it opinion or news should bring something new. Just running in circles.

And it's "shape up."

Gardenia2449d ago

And why does it have to go? The price will stay the same anyway, but at least now you get some free games

thorstein2450d ago (Edited 2450d ago )

It's "shape up." Learn to use idioms.

opinionated2450d ago

It's also "slip out" not ship out. Great f***ing game.

superchiller2449d ago

You're wrong, the phrase is "shape up or ship out", look it up:

http://idioms.thefreedictio...

opinionated2449d ago

@superchiller
I know the phrase dude lol. I was shouting out to a really old but great game.

https://images.stopgame.ru/...

Profchaos2450d ago

Keep those quality games coming and ill pay an extra 10 dollarydoos happily

Brave_Losers_Unite2450d ago

Ill also pay an extra 10 dollaryalomanteryhoos

nitus102450d ago

I am more interested in discounts than I am in the free games although every once in a while I get a free game that I like.

Anyway, my PS+ subscription will go from $69.95 to $79.95 AUD which is you do the conversion $10 AUD is equal to $7.87 USD or 6.07 BPS. All I have to do is pay $69.95 AUD before the end of the month and I am good for 18 months at the old price.

Silly gameAr2450d ago

Ship up? lol. Yeah I'm sure this is the site that's going to make Sony "ship up".

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Atari Is Reviving The 'Infogrames' Publishing Label

The armadillo returns.

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Aphrodia8h ago

I personally do remember Infogrames in the years prior to merger. They really did have a portfolio that stuck out and I enjoyed. I wonder what value they see in reviving it now though?

Hofstaderman7h ago

Ah...the nostalgia...V-Rally, Hogs of War 2, Driver.

TheColbertinator5h ago

The good old days of Driver and Stuntman. Unfortunately both games are long gone.

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Embracer Group Re-organizing Into 3 Separate Companies

Hopefully this gets Embracer group back on track

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TheColbertinator1d 6h ago

Embracer really destroyed itself faster than I ever expected.

Hedstrom15h ago

Yea! But thats what happens when you have 2,2 billion dollar in debt and the interest rise from 0,5% to 5% in a year

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With Larian Out Of The Picture, Will The Baldur's Gate IP Be In Safe Hands?

Huzaifah from eXputer: "With Larian Studios washing their hands of the IP, what is the ultimate fate of the legendary Baldur's Gate series?"

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RaidenBlack5d ago

If anybody's gonna mention BioWare, then look at Archetype Entertainment, they're the new BioWare
or else
Obsidian is still a good choice but not independent anymore.

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

No, WoTC is pivoting to mobile. They can use Larian's work to justify DnD Go and everyone will accept it.

RiseNShine5d ago

Short answer, nope. Long answer, f*ck nope.

robtion4d ago

Correct answer. Most people don't realise that the companies that are still making good games using common sense and a customer focus are generally not American. They are from Poland, Belgium, Japan, or other countries that have not yet become completely corrupted by 'extreme capitalism'.

Before you down vote me into oblivion I am not anti-american. I just don't like greed and corruption which unfortunately seems to correlate with power.

I would guess the next Baldurs gate will probably be filled with GaaS.

RiseNShine2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This is simply not true, probably the most capitalistic company in the world is Ubisoft right now, actually claiming that we have to get used to not owning games and asking 130$ for the ultimate edition of star wars outlaws with paywalled day one exclusive DLC, and they are from France, which is a socialist country with all kind of public services for everything, so it's not something exclusive to America or directly related to highly capitalist countries.

Of course, communist countries like China don't have problems like this, since workers don't have rights to strike since 1982 and unions are affiliated to the national government, so you'll never hear of any labour rights issues on these non-capitalist countries, they simply can't make their voices heard on their working conditions, neither by strikes or independent unions, that's better for you i suppose.

Christopher5d ago

Honestly, we're talking completely new engine and none of Larian's built-in stuff with regard to environments and the like that they had from their past divinity game. No one is going to have that just ready to go. So, they need to shop for a dev studio that has a past game that shows what they want.

Obsidian doesn't have that, maybe the closest being Dungeon Siege 3 or Pillars of Eternity, but those are very basic, not as open, very little environment related and altering capabilities. So, we're talking a step way back on what Larian delivered. Zero scene experience to line up with what was done in BG3. Okay conversation tree designs, but still needs more complexity.

inXile has Wasteland 3 as a base model engine, and I think that's better than Pillars of Eternity from Obsidian. But, still needs to be more open world, more environmental effects, and a much heavier rules set adaptation. But, not a bad overall engine as a base, but still a ton of work. Zero scene experience to line up with what was done in BG3. Needs a ton of work on that entirely.

Tactical Adventure did the Solasta game. Really good and more accurate as far as 5e rules than BG3. But, again, if the expectation is similar to what made BG3 a big hit, engine isn't designed for moving the camera, is a bit outdated in graphics, doesn't have in-game scene elements, and needs much better writers/voice actors.

Owlcat of pathfinder games is another choice, even though they've recently moved on to WH40k licensed games. Again, though, the engine is the biggest issue here to match up, but it's a much better option overall than Tactical Adventure. Another question is writers/story telling, as much of their overall story telling bits are very limited with a lot of random worldbuilding elements that are just +\- of some attributes.

TBH, no matter who takes over, it's just not going to be like BG3 much like how BG3 isn't at all like BG1/2. And BG3 was so successful because of how much Larian was able to put in with their engine and how focused they were on players having ridiculous control over the story being told. I just don't see the next BG being the same and depending on what it is, it might be good but I'm not as big of a reach as BG3. It's way more likely players are going to go into BG4 (or its spiritual successor if it moves away from Baldur's Gate and into Neverwinter or something like Plansescape) expecting much of what is in BG3 with more options, new and older characters, and the same level of control over what they're doing. If it doesn't have that, regardless of who makes it, it won't be as successful, IMHO.

exputers4d ago

Yes, I completely concur.

As good and talented as inXile and Obsidian are in their own specific way of making their particular games, none of them have Larian's attention to detail, dynamic worlds, and reactivity, so even if they end up making a new Baldur's Gate, it's going to be a significant step-down in terms of gameplay if not narrative.

CrimsonWing695d ago

Probably not, but maybe… just maybe…

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