Assuming install bases become large enough for both, will we ever see exclusive games released for Xbox One X or PS4 Pro? Industry analyst Michael Goodman weighs in on the topic.
nope.. that's what a successor is for.. however, X and 4 are iterations...
The way I see it, that already do get exclusive games.... Ps4 gets exclusive's Xbox gets exclusive's* The xbx and p4p are the same as the base. It's only logic it be that way. *Xbox has no exclusive's anymore.
You mean to say that there are no games that xbox gets that arent on the ps4?
No he means xbox games can be played/owned elsewhere i.e. PC. Which is true.
Yeah but theyr still xbox games from the xbox store only on win10 the same OS that runs on xbox consoles. Xbox exclusive PC+Console Not on playstation Not on nintendo Only on xbox and you get to choose PC or Console.
@Kingtrash360 Xbox still has exclusives as far CONSOLE gamers (like yourself) are concerned. Is funny how you people say you could play Xbox exclusives on PC with better graphics and performance when we know that most of you don´t game on PC or even own a decent PC to run Xbox One games. So i got ask: What platform the majority of PS4 owners will be playing Destiny 2 again? On PC? Native 4K 60fps? Yeah, right. ;)
Yes and if only I could use mods, play early access games, have backwards compatibility, use cross play and use my digital ps4 games on a pc now or in 5 years time it would be a perfect platform. Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
As with PS4 PS Now is the only place to play incredible PlayStation exclusives on your PC - games like The Last of Us, the Uncharted series, God of War, Beyond: Two Souls, Killzone and ICO and Shadow of the Colossus in HD are all waiting for you to play instantly. So does "PS4 not have exclusives anymore" or do you ignore that fact?
@DARK_WOLF Does that include games that are on Steam too like Ori and the Blind Forest, Cuphead and Quantum Break with no "Xbox" purchasing required whatsoever? It really doesn't help that these are pretty much arguably Xbone's biggest "exclusives" to date too.
Exclusives should not have an apostrophe in it. It doesn't possess anything, it's plural.
Ps4 games are available on pc And many on the way P4p has timed exclusive only
They shouldnt. They are not next gen consoles.
One day i could see it happening. Xbox one X + xbox 4 Like it was earlier this gen with x360 + xbox one
One day it will be the end of this gen also ... So if that's going to happen (which I doubt) then they better get on it before next gen.
If i can play it on my PC then its not "exclusive" to xbox anymore. Just saying. Why would i buy an expensive console if i get to play its games w/out it.
There are a crap ton of games i can play on pc that are still considered exclusive to a specific console. Why would this be any different?
well. I guess the difference is that when almost all of a console's 'exclusives' can be played on PC, it sort of makes the console irrelevant. in my opinion as someone who has a PC.
Because you don't own a PC capable of playing them.
@krysis And you think that because...
Same goes with PS4
@DJStoty With Playstation you cant play all their exclusives on pc. So no.
"With Playstation you cant play all their exclusives on pc." maybe not "all" but a pretty big percentage of them. I got bleem and can play nearly every PS1 game on PC and there are some really good PS2 emulators as well as PS3 emu has progressed significantly. PS4 emulator shouldnt be too difficult due to the system being x86 based now. But the funny thing is even though I could play those on PC... I dont. i prefer consoles and in that regard the games that are exclusive to one console are still exclusive to that console no matter if you want to bring PC into the mix or not. There are always going to be those who just prefer to game on a console and there is no changing that.
Because you can resell your console games and play against friends who only own an xbox. Also you can use family sharing to play online multiplayer games against another person in your house with 1 digital copy of that game. To me that is 3 valid reasons to still own it alongside pc.
Xbox one X will receive Halo 5 ODLC lmao.
That's why I'm passing on these systems. They are only being gimped by the original rushed consoles that were supposed to play PC level games at 1080p 60fps. It's a shame we won't see games come out on theese systems that can't be played on the X1 or PS4. Huge missed opportunity in my opinion. So I guess future PC games that we won't be able to run on the X1 or PS4 won't come to X1X or PS4.
Both Sony and MS said no, so no
You don't think they can change their mind? Sony might not but MS has shown they can change their stance on something if they think it can benefit them.
Would it be worth it though? I doubt it. What's the point? They are no new gen
The Last of Us 2; it'll probably cater to ps4 pro and ps5.
@darthv72 So can you explain how it could possibly "benefit them" to build an XboneX game from the ground up, with GDDR5 architecture in mind (like a standard PS4 game) and then release it to a measly install base of about 2 million people? In what reality would that benefit a huge corporation trying to make a profit from a project? I should point out I am very aware that you have been saying since the "Scorpio's" reveal last year that they will most certainly not be releasing games on standard Xbone even when Microsoft made it very clear during its announcement at E3 2016 that the 2 consoles WILL be sharing the same games. Even after E3 2017 you are still adamant that they are going to flip a switch and screw over 20 or so million gamers, especially the ones that bought a standard Xbone since Scorpio's announcement because their minds were put at ease that the console wouldn't be abandoned. I don't think its going to happen mate no matter how badly you want it to. :)
Xbox is like the DCEU of gaming, Sony is like the MCU of gaming, and Nintendo is like the X-Men Cinematic Universe of gaming
Nah, all cinematic comic universes are crap. Most have no story and people talking in theatric low voices the entire damn time to hide the fact there is no story or characterization. That and explosions but no plot. A few exceptions like Spidey 1-3 and Dark Knight Trilogy, most everything else is crap though, and gaming has far surpassed it. You can't tell me the generic "disarm the weapon threatening the city" plot hasn't been used in damn near everything as well as the "lets get as many low-voiced characters together again to fight off aliens/mythical monsters" hasn't been used as well. They hardly stray towards any real thematics, and when they do it's shallow, just theatrics because they're damn hollywood and lazy.
I guess the analogy went over at least 6 users' and Omnislash's heads so I'll have to explain. Sony is like the MCU, a dominant force this gen where they keep releasing top titles and mostly receive the sales to match, obviously have by far the highest percentage of consoles sold this gen compared to the competition, and have more gigantic IP games to come. Xbox is like the DCEU, mediocre, went on the rinse/repeat IP route like DCEU went on the rinse/repeat Batman/Superman movie route, because of major mistakes from the start of the gen they have got utterly battered by Sony and every time Xbox tries to get space for hype, Sony shanks them with a top title to kill their hype (in the most recent case, Horizon Zero Dawn Frozen Wilds announced to be releasing on November 7th). Nintendo is like the X-Men Cinematic Universe, mostly releasing bang average typical 'Nintendo-esque' titles but releasing outstanding titles like Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon. @Omnislash I stopped taking your comment seriously when you specifically mentioned 'Spidey... 3' and 'Dark Knight Rises' as exceptions, they were terrible ( Spider-Man 3 was not Amazing Spider-Man 2 levels of terrible, but that film made a mockery of the first two films, Raimi did it in revenge to terrible decisions from the higher ups and it showed. Dark Knight Rises was also shoddy, the weakest out of the trilogy by far). Yes the DCEU is 'crap' (at least the MCU makes the attempt to put out great films and it shows in the reputation they've built up and box office takings for each film they release), but tbf if you change up certain words in your comment like changing 'aliens/mythical monsters' to 'evil motoring overlords' or 'alien robots', then you would have described the Fast and Furious and Transformers movie universes (Transformers 5 is easily the second worst film of this year so far next to that Emoji film, I watched them for free online and still felt ripped off).
Good point. If I changed 'aliens/mythical monsters' to 'evil motoring overlords' or 'alien robots' I'd find the exact same amount of crap in Fast in Furious or Transformers.
That would be stupid and just piss people off
no. they've said no countless times.
God no PS5 and NeXtbox will
In a way. They'll be able to play games that won't be on the OG PS4 and X1. But those games will be on next gen consoles.
No...But I could see MS release several 1st party games where the difference in the game between the Xbox One and Xbox One X is almost next gen like, especially if sales of the Xbox One X are low. Right now they are focused on releasing games that are true 4k Xbox One games and Look great on both consoles, but for a few titles they might try to use that power to standard HD and max out graphics rather than 4k or high framerates. I highly doubt Sony will do anything like that.
@Fearmonkey If you think first party games like Gears of War 4 is only getting a resolution bump to reach native 4K on the X, you´re sadly mistaken "We’ve worked on bringing a number of additional technical improvements that really bring our world to life more than ever before that are exclusive to Xbox One X. We have fully dynamic shadows now – so for example, if a tree is blowing in the wind, on the ground you’ll see that shadow of that tree dynamically move as you’d expect it to. We’ve also enhanced the detail in these shadows so they’ll look crisper and more detailed. The new Shadow improvements really add a lot to the feel of our environments. One of the things you were probably gawping at (while you were busy dying, let’s not forget) in the Outsider Village are our real time light shafts – sometimes referred to as ‘God Rays’. You’ll now see shafts of sunlight or moonlight poking through statues, moving helicopter blades, the branches of trees and so on as they would in real life. It’s one of my personal favorite features because it’s just so visually eye catching and atmospheric. We also have other features like improved reflections, longer draw distances and higher poly counts to further bump up the fidelity of our world." https://gearsofwar.com/en-u...
I fully expect graphical upgrades, but im meaning major next generation level graphic upgrades, rather than improvements that one would similarly get upgrading to a new video card on PC. PS PRO for example has those type of upgrades in games like your Gears examples, im meaning that they would forgo 4k native and go 1080p with next gen level graphics. I doubt that would happen unless they needed something to spur sales.
@Fearmonkey Dude, did you read what i just posted? There´s no game on the Pro that features a NEW shadow and lighting tecnology that is not present on the PS4 version. If that´s the case, can you tell what it is?
If either of them did they would be complete idiots
There won't be a game that can run on these consoles but not their predecessors. The CPU improvements are only 30 percent. These consoles push more pixels, and occasionally higher framerates or better graphics. They won't be doing brand new things.
The companies stated that won't be happening.These boxes are just to upgrade some of the games that are currently releasing especially the exclusive games.
never. reason? 60 million ps4 sold and counting.
Nope they won't cut off their own audiences like that
That would be the worst decision ever.
No but Xbox X will probably support next gen and play those games, which the One can't.
X maybe. Depends on what MS's plans are. It sounds like they don't intend on making a next gen successor to Xbone, but rather continuous iterations, which (if true) may mean the X may become the base Xbone hardware. Pro, not a chance, and there's really no point. Sony has already made it clear there's going to be a PS5. If anything, Pro is simply there to elongate the life of PS4, which means it's pointless for it to have its own exclusives.
Every game made for PS4 Pro must be playable on PS4. However, here's the catch. Once next gen rolls around, PS5 will not have that stipulation. So games made for PS5 will not be required to run on PS4. But developers will likely create a PS4 Pro version. And in that round about way, there will be games available for Pro that are not available for PS4.
The only thing they could really do is drop the slims and make those the main consoles. The experiment with the mid gen refreshes really don't work for consoles. Hopefully next gen, they just do powerful, or modular consoles.
this blogger did not get this midgen upgrade. like at all.
Let me check my crystal ball.....
DERP, No they won't.They have stated as such and to move away from that would F the base, which is the majority of both systems the org PS4 and XB1. Opinion piece indeed.
No, as Xbox One X is launching in the "Play Anywhere" era so even if there are games that won't work on a regular Xbox One, they won't be exclusives. PS4 Pro won't because it doesn't have a big enough improvement over the regular PS4 to justify cutting off 90%+ of the PS4 install base.
No. They're mid-gen upgrades.
I've guessed "yes" from day one and I'll stay there. Eventually, likely near the start of the next gen, the base PS4/X1 won't be enough for some titles. Even if stripped down the games will be too much for anything but the Pro/X1X. The hardware will already be there, the devs have the kits and they'll push for access to them and them alone. They'll get it, IMO. I don't see how they won't unless the next gen comes really soon. Unless we see a PS5 by early 2019 there will be Pro exclusives. I already see the X1X as a new gen using x86 so I could just assume that will get them.
it's an interesting concept and i would personally welcome it but I doubt it would happen.
Possibly, i guess that is all down to developer choice. If they are making a game that the XB1S and PS4 cannot physically run, then it will have to be exclusive
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