Can Sony and Microsoft ever come to an agreement to make cross-platform online gaming between Xbox and PlayStation platforms possible?
For the sake of their customers, I hope they do.
I don't know why Sony wont allow cross play with Xbox one. They should also allow PlayStation exclusive titles to be able to be played on xbox one as well. /s
I don't know why Sony allows cross play with PC. They should also allow PlayStation exclusive titles to be played on PC as well.
If cross play is allowed, I don't see why people can't sleep with the wives of Sony execs
I don't see why sony won't allow cross play with ms. They su€k! MS offers it because they are gamer friendly. /s
You guys.... stop circle jerking eachother. /s
@Jaguar It's because MS wants to force PS players to sing in via XBL (make an XBL account) in order to use MS's version of cross-play. Pretty sure Sony would be ok with cross-play if it was done via the games publishers servers like it is with PC cross-play.
Both can crossplay with PC so I hope they can find a neutral ground there
Same, hope they join up with everyone else. Update is pretty crazy for the Minecraft community.
Never really thought about it before, but this'll be huge for streamers too. Able to get all their subscribers together regardless of platform on 1000+ player servers.
Might have to join up with Farfromsubtle one day when this drops. Know they'll probably have a big Minecraft event when the update comes out, but I believe they play Minecraft specifically on PC. Their fans are mostly PS4 gamers though, so I really hope Sony joins so they don't miss out.
It seems both have no problem with cross platform play between Nintendo consoles though
They are direct competitors, so that is a really tricky thing to do for both, especially for the one on top. It happened last gen, it is happening now, and will happen the next. What would Ms do if they were on top? Sure some people think MS has been taunting Sony witn cross play for the greater good when instead they know they have nothing to lose with it. Sony as the leader has every right to not cross play with their rivals and I'm not sure how some people label them as anti consumer for that. Their excuse for that, however, was very poor. They deserve to be questioned and laughed at, but that's it!
Maybe Sony should limit cross play to games that are not a thread to their sales like Rocket League or Minecraft, but not big mainstream titles like COD and Destiny. And these titles need no cross play to stay alive. As much as some people would love to play witn their friends having different consoles, well we can't always have what we want. Welcome to earth! That said, Overwatch cross play could be pretty interesting
Thank you exactly
People make it sound like Sony doesn't allow cross play when there were games on ps3 with cross play
Back that Ms wanted no part of it and now that Xbox brand is lagging more than 30 million behind ps4 all of the sudden Ms have become consumer friendly
DRM WITH XBOX ONE
NO CROSS PLAY
This all happened with in last 5-8 years
If it wasn't for Sony we would be stuck with a DRM filled Xbox one console
All three consoles and PC have heavy DRM as do all smartphones.
Just letting you know.
Sony & Microsft are already working together on various things technically. Windows 10 on Sony computers & Microsoft owns Minecraft & Microsoft can take Minecraft away from Sony at any given time
I thought Sony sold there computer division. Maybe I'm wrong. Honestly I think this whole cross play ordeal has to do with Xbox live subscription. I think we as Sony users would have to pay a fee that isn't talked about. When they work that out we'll see cross play. Also I don't think ms will take minecraft away from anybody!! Why would they just stop getting money like that? There is too much money made on minecraft!!
@Sharky231 that makes no sense since you are paying to use PSN just like XBOX users are paying to use Live
Sure I understand that. However It seems cross platform play is getting more and more popular particularly for VR which really needs it. So maybe there's a spark for a natural evolution for the next few years when XB also offers VR?
I also have a feeling xbox is becoming even closer to PC so there's that
I agree with this. Although it definitely would benefits the consumer, I think Sony doesnt want to help out thier competition in any form or fashion. You cant knock them for that, they are in the 'Console Business"
As long as MS doesn't force anyone to create/use an/their XBL account or force the use of their network, I think there can be an amicable agreement. Sony also needs to drop the protect the children nonsense, too.
WHO CARES. Honestly, I don't get the appeal. Also in a competitve game it seems like it would create an imbalance, Different amounts of input lag, though minute would lead to complaining about it not being an even playing field.
These are closed systems. Every year xbox writes its self closer to obsolete. Every game can be played on pc, you can play with people on other systems... So what is the point of owning an xbox??? I know why I own a Ps4 and a Switch but that question is one that has cost microsoft a sale this gen (had original xbox and had a 360 till it red ringed but have no reason to get the x1)
All my friends own PS4s and those that own Xones, game mostly on their PS4s, so I get no benefit from crossplay.
About one or two, FYI, people can have many friends, even if your only semi-social, you sound as if you don't have many.
I plan to eventually own a Switch at some point, I'm just waiting to see how things pan out (I don't want it to have the same fate as the Wii U).
Not in this generation. Now ask if Microsoft and Valve can agree on online cross-play.
Don't count on it.
We can debate this all we want but since we aren't privvy to what is actually the reasons why it's not happening it doesn't make any sense to do so...
It makes sense marketing-wise since it's a feature their console will lack as opposed to competitors, and I'm sure there's a whole bunch of PS gamers out there who would enjoy playing with their friends that own other platforms and vive versa.
I like the idea but I'm not lying awake at night if they don't implement it.
Besides, if they in the near future actually do, I hope they do it right, so that we can have cross-party chat, cross-game invites, check cross-achievements/trophies, check user profiles regardless of platform, etc., etc.
Tho for starters I would settle for cross-party chat and cross-game invites in some way, the rest can come later...
Of course if a publisher is willing to write the code to handle all this behind the scenes I'm also okay if some want to handle this in-game which is also a possibility after all...
What I don't care much about is that you can only play with/against strangers on another platform without the ability to invite your friends on your team or without being able to talk to them...
If they do it, they better do it right!
"If they do it, they better do it right!"
I agree, for sure, but they gotta start somewhere to test the waters.
I actually don't think there's any point debating it because it's obvious why it's not happening, I don't blame them.
Closed platforms should be closed platforms. Crossplay is stupid.
Personally I think that if Microsoft had a healthy lead and the Xbox One was a huge success we would not be having this discussion. It's not like the online communities of both systems are dying and it's a mutual benefit. If anything, PlayStation has the most thriving one with double the install base. I can understand cross play for MMOs like Final Fantasy 11 (which had gamers from 360, PS2, and PC) and Final Fantasy A Realm Reborn (which Microsoft declined and gave hell to Square because they did not want crossplay with PS4.) because it's all server based and you need that seamless. COD cross play? Who cares? I will find a game, no matter the system, quickly. Tekken crossplay? Same deal. Nobody stands to gain from this financially but Microsoft and at the end of the day, that's what it's all about.
No, they don't.
Also, publishers would have to think twice before shutting down servers because the combined player base of their games will be larger, instead of having smaller player counts across multiple, separate platforms.
Yes, if MS pays a lot $$$$$$$$$$ for sony
Why would MS need to pay Sony ...
To cover the potencial sales sony will lose because this movement
Console gamers don't even respect each other, on the internet. Just imagine them all on one network. The Mishima family, have a better relationship than the console community.
Sony won't, and why should they? Last gen they were pushing for this, but MS said no for the same reason that Sony is now; cross-play would have a lot more benefit for the smaller install base. With PS4 having the far larger install base, people who don't own PS4's, wanting to play specific games with friends who do, would now have less reason to buy a PS4. Cross play would potentially remove a lot future PS4 adopters. Why should Sony want that?
MS had the same thinking last gen; funny how it's suddenly anti-consumer.
MS were actually very heavily criticised for it, and now when Sony does the same, suddenly it's the right thing to do?
You can go back to articles on N4G around when Sony said yes to doing Portal 2 crossplay with PC, and all the comments are along the lines of "I can't believe MS said no to this, how anti-consumer" and "imagine if we could break down these barriers and have crossplay on other multiplayer games!"
Microsoft can, Sony wont
Don't know why you're getting disagrees, that's literally what's happening here
ELITE Dangerous would be great to see this
That would be incredible, it'd really bump up the overall player base, and would really help out with merging some community goals
XBox = for the gamer.
Lemme put something in perspective for you. Neither of these companies would do anything for the gamer's benefit if they were already comfortably outselling the other. Best example? Microsoft was all about DRM and anti used games. Sony jumped on this, and stole their lunch. Now Microsoft is all about backwards compatibility.
So that "= for the gamer" line don't mean s***. It should read Microsoft = Oh s***, we need to catch up! And when they do, watch the script flip. and then watch Sony do the same thing.
Capitalism ftw then !!
Don't see it happening , would have been great but theirs always going to be something to keep it from happening.
Not sure why it's a big deal all of a sudden. Sony has tried in the past, and they have done backwards compatibility for years. Now, all of a sudden, it's the most important thing in gaming. Get over it. If it happens, cool. If not, oh well.
Why would they help their competition? I strongly doubt this will ever happen.
Cross play only behooves the market loser, in this case MS. Sony has nothing to gain from this.
Last gen, when there wasn't a clear leader between Sony and MS, Sony was more open to it when they tried working with Steam. I would hold my breath for Sony to make any such moves this generation.
MS will need to drop create/use an/their XBL account before Sony even thinks about doing this.
Here are the problems with complete cross play between the two
1. Its not a feature gamers in both camp are asking for. Face it. Most Live and PSN players have not asked for this. If anything I think free online is what PSN fans want. Heck I would take BC over cross platform play anyday.
2. For Sony. Its a business decision. Lets not kid ourselves. One of the big reason some people choose one platform over another is by looking at which platform their friends play on the most. This was very handy for MS last gen when they were on top early last gen. If Sony allows this it will negate one of the big advantage they have right now which is that many more people have PS4 and such for many people many of their friends already have a PS4 and would pick a PS4 because of it. It is completely unreasonable to expect Sony to forego this advantage when MS themselves did the same thing last gen.
3. Between the two there account for around 85% of the market. It gets more tricky when you have issues between two big networks. For example who do you call for support if you don't know it was the other net work that is the problem. How does one log in?. Who is going to pay for it?. Fact is even last gen there are a lot of issues that needed to be sorted first before allowing this.
When are people gonna realise sony want nothing to do with ms when it comes to PlayStation.
Sony will allow cross play if the majority of their customers want it...
xbox did the same thing some years back. i wouldnt allow it on some games either, i want ppl to buy games for my console and not for the competition.
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