There could be some big things coming to the latest firmware update for PS4, like the ability to change your PSN name and downloading PS1 classics. WWG runs down what could be the most exciting features.
Anytime a PlayStation console updates moves to a new whole number means that it's going to be a huge update
wait weren't the .5 updates usually the bigger ones or am i remembering it incorrectly. what was added each time?
The whole number change is the big one system wide. The .5s are usually features added.
whole number updates are usually the ones with the biggest feature additions. .5 increments usually have something new, but not nearly as big as the whole numbered ones.
after over a decade I can finally change my name tag (if rumors are true)
Its not the whole numbers that are the big updates, its all .50 increments that are big, so for example, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 3.5, etc.
I believe that we will get PSN name changes when Sony actually announces it! I'm happy with mine because I chose wisely - between the USA and UK release of PS3 I had 5 months to think about it. But I know plenty who would love to change their PSN ID. I think it will happen, an old Sony user questionnaire asked people about it. Shuhei Yoshida will certainly have reported back about it, but there are technical issues with implementing this so I don't want to bet on what year.
Looking forward to it, last update was fantastic.
PSOne compatibility would be a great. It could also indicate that they will increase compatibility over time and might go for full compatibility with the PS5 so that you can play all your PSN and hopefully physical games on one console. Wish list would also be great even though it should've been implemented a long time ago.
It would be awesome but, Ps4 don't support CD format at all(ps1). Restricted reigon for DVDs will be another problem(ps2). I hope they find way to do Ps3 games.
I didn't know that.
Cell processor isn't easy to emulate, and since PS4's CPU isn't known for being super strong, I wouldn't bet on PS3 emulation.
What a shame the Cell processor had to die just to satisfy some lazy devs...
All the PS4 need to read CDs is a firmware update. The laser for CD is in there, it's listed in the safety manual. The software to read CDs is just not there, but the hardware definitely is. Not that it matters, because PSOne classics likely means the ones we got on PSN for PS3/Vita/PSP, not actual disc backward compatibility.
@UltraNova It had to "die" because it was a dead end. Outside of the PS3, it didn't sell all that well. Yes it's difficult learning curve had a lot to do with that, but that's what happens when you do something extremely custom. They wanted to turn a specialized processor into a general purpose one and that doesn't work so well.
@ultra You can't just label a developer lazy because they aren't given the time or resources by their publisher to do a bunch of highly unique coding for cell processors. Especially when they're already strapped for time working more conventional hardware types. Cell was amazing but in the age of multi platform gaming it was just too dense for anyone that wasn't making an exclusive.
@Ultra It didn't really die. Most of the new technologies from CELL now exist in GPU's, and was a result of IBM and Sony's CELL efforts. It was what made GPU compute more readily available. I think if Sony tried to continue with the CELL concept, it wouldn't be set up the same for this or future gens, because of the change in developmental procedures for games not requiring so much offloading in the direction of the CPU. It just made more sense to add it to the GPU, since they were mostly already set up for such procedures. In any case, continuing with CELL would have been an expensive endevour, because CELL in general is more a niche processor designed for very specific things, so the cost to manufacture can't be offset by a more mainstream distribution. In any case, with today's x86 technology, coupled with changes and advances in GPU technologies, the purpose of the CELL is kind of redundant and not even necessary with today's developmental paradigms.
That would nice, but I already have most of my favorite PS1 titles as digital on PS3. I've been buying them up for a while when sales come. Recently re-played Resident Evil 3. " might go for full compatibility with the PS5 so that you can play all your PSN and hopefully physical games on one console" That would be pretty cool, but extremely unlikely. That would be crazy though!
They literally can do that with PS Now already, Sony just needs to stop being cheap and allow digital titles you own on PS3 to be streamed for free on Now.
Yeah, it's about time they would connect the 2 systems (they've been separated systems from the beginning) so PS Now can check if you actually own a game digitally and then stream that for free.
Not against the idea. Might be a nice bonus if you are a Plus member. But, lets be realistic. Unlike Microsoft's backward compatibility, PSNow takes a great deal more cost to support. For the most part, Microsoft is download and done. It's server infrastructure to support is the same as the storage and licensing for all the XB1 games. All the actual gameplay work is done on the console itself. In comparison PSNow, as a streaming service, can easily surpass thebandwidth cost of downloading a game (e.g Xbox BC) compared streaming most games. Although it may be minimal, it can add up. However, the real cost is the server infrastructure. Each server box is 8 PS3's stuck on a motherboard. Imagine the need to support 60+ million users. Even if we expect a free PSNow service was used monthly by 5%, as backward compatibility is used on Xbox One, that would mean it would require free gameplay to support at the very least 3 million users connected at one time. I doubt the PSNow service is ramped up with a minimum 375,000 server boxes. Maybe, they have and that means most are sitting dormant now. And these are hardware not virtualized PS3 devices. So increasing support requires building more boxes. There is also the additional cost of maintenance with each box. That is more Sony has to pay to support something beyond just a storage servers and licensing servers. It is not free for Sony to do this. They must provide a benefit to their bottom-line for PSNow to exist Once again not saying it wouldn't be nice to play what you own. It just doesn't make financial sense from a business perspective on Sony's end. Perhaps Sony could do something that would make PSNow more viable to consumers and Sony. Maybe each month Sony could have one or two PSNow games free to play for a whole month for Plus members. I just don't see them giving away PSNow free to PS3 game owners.
The problem with that is Now isn't and never has been an alternative to BC, and costs money to run. Taking off the gamer specs for a moment, they have to pay to run the service, and I'm guessing games added to the service aren't free. So I don't think it's tech that's stopping this it's the fact that doing this would cost millions to run with 0 profit made. Sony are a business not a charity. Edit what gum said.
@ImGumby Hence why I said its cheap of them, its all fan-service. In fact backwards compatibility as a whole is fan-service, a companies doing it for good-will and good press. They'll def lose money on certain ends, but if you can promote the service through allowing gamers to stream their older library I would think its better than limited trials as to getting gamers more interested in Now.
I hope they fix the audio sync problem i the media player, been messed up for waaaaaaaaaaaay too long
I never got that is it your internet speed?
Pretty sure the internet has nothing nothin to do with the media player.
I haven't experienced this.. sure u haven't changed something your end, most amps/audio setups let u adjust audio sync.
It's a drifting de-sync. Must be a playback issue.
Yeah, same here. Started happening two updates ago.
It's probably your videos.
Nah, its definitely a media player thing. Its actually why i still use my PS3. No drifting audio sync. The Media player app could be much better.
Sorry not his internet speed but his router signal/interference if he is using wireless
WTF?? Why is my comment down voted? How can wanting them to fix a known issue with audio sync be something to disagree with?
Something SO big for them, to warrant a new version number has been on Xbox last gen. Change your username. Wow. Wonder what they can add. I'm really surprised they added HDR to base PS4 a while back.
1) changing username does not need a firmware change, all done on the database and only needs a web interface to change it 2) it's not like both have been adding things from the other, didn't Xbox recently acquire 'communities' of some sort? So I don't really get your tone...
Yep, you got it.... the whole new version number is simply because of username feature. You're the smartest man alive.
From the article. They play it up. Calling. It a huge feature and a game changer. Just found it funny because it's such a small thing. Mean while Xbox updates offered things like 360 backward compatibility. And the next one is adding original Xbox backward compatibility. I guess the guy above didn't much like my tone since I guess it's pointing out the obvious. MS has been adding better features to their consoles this generation. Both software wise, backward compatibility and hardware wise like including 4k uhd in one s and one x. (Insert mandatory remark about exclusives are all that matter and 4k blu dying or something) Ps. Article quote "This could be a huge feature. Some people have been looking to change the name of their PSN ID for what seems like years, without the ability to do so. It’s unsure how Sony will manage this option, as managing millions of names on the network probably takes a heaping handful of effort. But if Sony can introduce this, it will help players diversify their online personality into something that’s more fitting, rather than the default name they registered with when they first signed up with the PlayStation Network. If there’s a way for Sony to effectively make this happen, it could be a game-changer for a lot of online players."
Will just be a stability update. But at 5X the power.
You have no idea how continuos integration/continuos deployment works do you
It was a joke. Geez, no one here gets sarcasm apparently.
..Ps1 classics... Does that mean pull out our old discs, or that we can finally play the ps1 games we bought on ps3/vita with our accounts?.. If I can play Grandia 1 again without being at my pc i'll die.
Not sure why Sony would waste their time making a backwards compatible. No one uses it according to Sony team. That will never happen . No one plays last gen games but they are willing to sell it anyways . Weird
Nobody plays games they treasure from their past?.. Jeez man, there's pr and then there's common sense, right?
@horndog I see what you did there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). Clearly people here don't understand sarcasm.
That was not sarcasm. If it was sarcasm, it wouldn't make sense for him to throw that jab in at the end.
confusing a nice feature for some uber awesome thing is the funny part. Bc is nice almost everyone says that they just don't want it to be treated as the defining feature of your next gen box. Internet isn't everything but backwards constable is the biggest feature on xbox and it's treated as such by its die hards. When it's all laid out though your still bragging about old games on your new system.
PS1 classics compatibility isn't backwards compatibility. They work the same way as PS2 classics.
Sony is truly the one driving the game industry forward, their console software is the best and their software engineers are the best on the planet
Man, that's some GOOD shit your smoking. Who's your dealer!?
Software engineers? No Microsoft wins that hands down. Sony got the games though.
Still, last update to Sony's SDK is amazing.
But this is Sonyland so...
Private industry blows MS engineers out of the water. Even Google is leagues better. When considering game consoles only though, the PS4's OS started off leagues better than the XB1. Updates on the 360's layout always seemed to make the system worse too. I don't know how the XB1 OS is now, but their track record leads me to believe it probably isn't good.
@DogJosha You are living in fantasyland if you think that one trick pony, Google-the-Ad-Company, has better software engineers than Microsoft. Please name something from Google that is top-notch. And your answer better not be Android. That OS designed for 35mm digital cameras is still a mess. Where is their cutting edge work that actually is working in the real world? By the way, you do realize Microsoft is "private" industry too? They aren't the government. As for engineers blowing them out of the water. Hardly, sure there are individual areas that do real well, better than Microsoft. But, the difference is Microsoft (actually any large company) engineers must go beyond proof of concept but, actually reach proof of viability. That last one is important and why many smaller companies that develop neat products get picked up by Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc.. because the look nice in the lab and in demos at tech events but, financially can't be made outside for mass consumption. Making it viable for consumers is where most of engineering is done. As for PS4 OS started off better. No it didn't. How, please explain? And look at it now, what have they really done to improve the underlying structure. Not, the secondary systems or UI, the actual OS. Orbis is a FreeBSD modified OS. That base OS, like Linux, had low system requirements but, Sony somehow requires 3.5GB reserved for the OS system to run. Whereas, Xbox (Windows based) reserves only 3GB to run all it's OS systems. Damn those Microsoft engineers for shrinking the requirements. Yay! Sony engineers for ballooning the needs of their OS.
@Gumby My bad, I meant more so the not-for-profit sector than the private sector in general. Have you never used google before? Hell, we already know you used them to look up your "facts" about PS4's OS vs XB1's OS. Out of all their products, Android is the furthest from being an actual Google product, yet it is the only one you can think of? How about their search engine? Their email system? Their maps system? So on so forth? All these apps are top of their class, and have less intrusive ads than their competition. The thing that really helps them shine though is how much they are interconnected. This isn't some small feat. In fact, this is something that MS has a huge issue with. Take a second to look up some issues people have with just their contact list in outlook that is caused by it being linked with other services. You may hate Google for ads and spying, but then you will love another company like MS that does the same exact thing but in a more intrusive way? If it is a problem for one company, it can't be a feature for another company. If the PS4 used more RAM to run incredibly better than the XB1, then I don't see the issue. The XB1 may have had its issues fixed, but I wouldn't know so there isn't any point in arguing that. If you didn't see an issue with how the XB1 ran when it first launched, then I am afraid you are alone on that one. I have even see the most die-hard fans admit that it wasn't great.
They need to add digital refunds
I hope it means the increase the resolution like they did the PS2 games.
Sigh, changing your username has nothing to do with a firmware, it's all done in the database that's running on the servers and for users to do it the best place for it is the website where you change all your settings and add money to your PSN account. Nothing to be done in the firmware. If they want they could add a UI to the firmware to do it there but I think that's rather silly since it's not something you would use often so it's better suited to be web-only...
PLEASE A GAME PLAY TIME LOG
I'm pretty sure Sony said that changing your psnetwork ID isn't happening.
Ok, taking this article as fact (which I doubt it is) but if it is, Sony are putting PSOne backwards compatibility? isn't this the same company that not long ago said that backwards compatibility was used by very few people and was pointless? Seems times have changed if this article is right
PS1 classics and PS1 BC are not the same, PS1 classics are the same as PS2 classics. All of the predictions in this article are taken from an email Sony sent out ages ago to gauge interest in features for firmware updates, these are the only ones that haven't been implemented yet.
Your right, PS1 BC would mean that its more than likely free, PS1 "Classics" sounds like Sony are possibly trying to sell us all PS1 games all over again, just like Nintendo is going to be doing on the Switch.
I want an update that turns it into a "water cooler".
PSP retro Change account region Remove SharePlay from Plus paywall 16 players party support Instagram integration Videochat/conference Joint streamings
I would love them to add the ability to play VIta, PSP, or PS1 games to the system.:)
This article is literally speculation. Might as well call it "Features we'd like to see in the new update". Reports are indicating that Sony could be adding the following features to the firmware update, though it still doesn’t have a release date: PS One Classics compatibility The ability to take game demos and trials from your library by hiding them Wish list enabled in the PlayStation Store Increasing the maximum number of players in a PSN online party Being able to change the PSN ID Now, Sony has not confirmed any of these, so take these with a grain of salt, but let’s talk about why each of these features is vital to PlayStation 4 owners…
Maybe we'll get some video chat. God I miss it.
Yeeeeeeeyyyy Psn name change. Colin and Greg will Welcome that more than anyone lol
This is all just speculation