Remember all the buzz around the Playstation 2 era about Video Games finally achieving Toy Story level of graphics?
Go play Ratchet and Clank. I think game already surpassed any pixar movies, especially if you are playing the PSPRO version. We came a long way, especially if you have games like uncharted lost legacy, God of war, the last of us 2 and more pushing the boundaries into more realism.
you were doing fine until you said. . " pushing the boundaries into more realism".. hold your horses bruh.
Yeah not even the beast can achieve more realism. Toystory has better graphics then crackdown.
@snoopgg LOL BURN! gg dude
well someone's gotta do it. it's not like your console of choice is revolutionizing anything with sea of thieves level of graphics ... why would you build the world's most power console for this? i know gameplay might be crazy fun, but that's not the point of the x is it? graphically sea of thieves would look unremarkable on the Xbox 360
y'all need help ^_^. do you feel better now that you've taken shots at Xbox and it's games? back on topic: The games @Pancit_Canton mentioned look great. . and we've definitely achieved toy_story level visuals. . but there's still a lot of work to do in terms of pushing realism. The Uncharted's and co' all have a subtle art_style to them. They aren't pushing for photo_realism. . that's what I meant by holding your horses. . before you got triggered.
@snoopgg A crackhead has better graphics than crackdown
"Yeah not even the beast can achieve more realism. Toystory has better graphics then crackdown." toy story 1 didn't have subsurface scattering, high resolution textures or eye reflections. http://ghk.h-cdn.co/assets/... http://www.animatorisland.c... https://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-... https://s-media-cache-ak0.p... just putting the facts out there.
Man I feel like we passed Toy Story years ago...
Not just SSS but even PBR. None of them was even using PBR (except maybe Toy Story 3 which used a very early version of PBR): something almost all current gen games use with various accuracy.
I dunno man.. some of the more recent movies are incredible in certain regards. The Good Dinosaur has some of the most impressive skyboxes I have ever seen. And Piper (an animated short) has some of the most unbelievable sand and water around. That being said, games really are starting to push the boundaries no joke.
We've certainly hit Pixar level from 20 years ago but games will always be a few steps behind modern CGI. Animation these days is mind blowing.
Yeah, exactly. This article is comparing a game from nowadays to a movie from 22 years ago. Game graphics have nothing on things like the skyboxes and water in The Good Dinosaur, the sand in Piper, the hair in Brave, etc . . . Pretty much any movie from the past five years or so runs circles around game graphics. It'll always be that way because movies use rooms full of computers filled with GPUs that cost more than an entire console.
Moana looked amazing as well.
Horizon zero dawns sky is beyond amazing for a video game.
that's not true atall. the cutscene in RnC are close to pixar the gameplay not. also the recent pixar movies are far ahead of what we have in games today. the fluid animations/physics/GI games are not close let alone surpassing.
I never played ratchet and clank on a standard ps4 so I don't know how it holds up on a 1080p display, but playing it on a 4K tv on a ps4 pro, that was the first time a stylized game has ever made me go "wow" consistently throughout the entire game. I remember when ratchet and clank made its PS3 debut and reviews always said it looked like or came close to playing a Pixar film. Even in those days, those graphics never blew me away. I was like "this is what people are hyping up?" But ratchet and clank on ps4 pro is absolutely stunning. It is the first stylized game I have ever played that legitimately made me think "wow, this looks like a cg movie"
Ratchet and Clank is a good example, but it still comes nowhere near Disney or Pixar
You are out of your damn mind. Not even close. Love the game and it looks great on the Pro but not remotely close to pixar level.
Playstation has to be the best at everything including CGI movies apparently. Perhaps Pixar can save some money in the future and start using PS4's to make their movies.
"Any Pixar movie"? No, dude. Current gen graphics can definitely surpass old animated movies, but this story is comparing Toy Story in-game graphics to Toy Story... a movie that came out in 22 years ago. But games still have a very long way to go before they can achieve something like this: https://www.myanmore.com/ya... Current gaming hardware can't come close to this. When the time comes that games manage to look as good as that... 3D movies will still look another level beyond. It's just the way it is.
I have not seen Moana but odds are its water effects shit all over the best water physics found in gaming (whatever that maybe, UC4?)
Hhhmm.. no Even Ratchet and Clank wasn 't at Pixar's movie level. Their resolution is still higher. SquareEnix/Disney Kimgdom Heart III is very close though now. In 4K it will look almost the same. I think by next-gen they will be there. @snoopgg Toy Story has better graphics then Horizon: Zero Dawn, Anthem and every game on PS4, PS4 Pro, XB1 and XB1X right now. They are getting there, but they are there yet. Let me know when you can play a game that looks this good. http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
"Surpassed any pixar movies" . Thats some Straight 10/10 delusion right there folks.
>. I think game already surpassed any pixar movies, Takes hours to render, but a game surpasses it *giggles*
That was just painful to read because you actually believe it.
No, just no.
@Pancit_Canton And that's the Ratchet and Clank games from LAST gen. :) And Insomniac Games said it themselves that nobody cared they targeted 60fps.
I disagree, games don't revile recent Pixar animated films. Games are never as 'clean' and 'even' looking as CG films. The gap between animated films and games has narrowed though.
Yes. I think videogames are always 3 to 4 gens behind when it comes to visual. It should be common sense that there is a vast difference between a movie which gets animated on some kind of super computer, achieved with state of the art tech and a videogame which has to be rendered in real time by an ordinary consumer product, let it be high to low end pcs or consoles, it doesn't matter. But videogames have come a long way indeed. When i think about how amazing for example doom looked for me back in the days and when i compare them to games from today, wow
I think the dimenishing returns of GPU and CPU hardware, are one of the main reasons games can't catch up to CGI. Another reason, is certainly cost per asset.
It's funny, if you rewatch Toy Story now it's easy to notice all the little glitches and what not. Watch the beginning with Woody on Andy's bed and you can see his hands clip through the blanket all the time. Pretty interesting to notice it now being use to it from 3D games the past 20 years. I expect so much more out of my modern CGI films! But yeah, it's usually the polygon count in CGI that set it apart. Even with our modern renditions of the characters in KH3 characters like Buzz are still ever so slightly "blocky" in his shoulders and other rounder parts of his body. Easily throws our sense of immersion off.
If you watch the trailer, it does look better than the original Toy Story from the 90s...
Yeah.. right https://media.giphy.com/med...
Cartoonish CG never impressed. I'm more impressed with CG like KingsGlaive. I prefer hand-drawn animation overall.
That film had amazing CG. All throughout it I was amazed by it. I hope Square make more movies to be honest. Looking forward to watching the new Resident Evil Vendetta too.
I hate this CGI look in animation now. Traditional animation is the best animation, by far.
Horizon Zero Dawn already achieved this even with the base PS4! Heck both Uncharted 4 and 1886 are runner up that also did this.
Horizon looks great, but not nearly as sharp.. Uncharted and Order are pretty lean on gameplay
What's being "lean" on gameplay have to do with comparing game graphics to a movie?
LOL Uncharted is not lean on game play son, Order however is, including A.I.
pixar Movies have pretty much no game play. so what's your point?
@oogly - lean Gameplay allows for better graphics.. Just look at Doctor Dekker, you can go full FMV @KickSpin - Uncharted is tightly directed set pieces, with the most basic of gameplay elements.. Anyways, thanks Dad.. @Goken - not worth addressing
The level of detail, physics, unique assets, lack of aliasing etc all say no. I'm not saying those games aren't visually impressive, but do you think in a Pixar movie if they had armed men(The rebels are all clones) like in The Order they would continue to use the same 5 guys over and over again? It's those kinds of details that will always visually elevate CGI movies over a game.
"Nobody Seems To Care" I must have missed the 4+ articles about it...
Yeap.. just bait articles as always.
Who cares about graphics compared to films, I get more enjoyment out of the control and choices you can make in a video game. Best for of home entertainment Imo, second to one a few bottles of something and stripper bchs breaking your sofa.
We have for a while now. Granted things like poly count and resolution and maybe some lighting stuff that barely anyone notices may be better in the movie but I'd say we passed by or at least matched the over all graphics even last gen, just about. I guess things like the grass and bushes and finer details need to catch up but we're getting there. Play something like a VR game where items are meant to be looked at close up or Unigine's Superposition benchmark and it's pretty impressive the little details we can render these days. Anyways, yeah, people noticed...it's just that the "Wow!" period actually already passed. Just because we have KH3 and next-gen Toy Story characters to compare to the movies doesn't mean graphics haven't already gotten better.
Animations still have a bit to catch up on in video games. Textures, models, and shading wise though this generation is incredibly close to CGI movies.
Great. How about now working on the facial animation and movement of characters in game :)
I dont care what level of graphics you reach. If the game isn't fun then whats the point? Thankfullly KH does look fun which is what I am more concerned about. Unfortunately I cant say the same for all the other super ultra realistic looking games that have come out this year.
Very very true
I'm pretty impressed myself.
Toy story isn't where the bar is now... In fact if you watch toy story it looks pretty primitive by today's standards. Now if games were on the level of Kingsglaive then I'd be making a bit more noise.
I cared 2 years ago when Ratchet and Clank PS4 came out. That game look so amazing on the Pro BTW.
What are we supposed to do? Throw a parade? It's not like it happened overnight and surprised us all.
Because it was surpassed
But it's not the same level... look at the lighting and shading! Also, i bet it will look different when the game is released.
I care! Kind Hearts 3 looks truly amazing ( especially with seeing Toy Story graphics ) in game. I think it's really amazing that video games nowadays can achieve the type of visuals that we've seen so far. I mean, look at what video game developers have been able to accomplish with the current hardware available. Games, I believe games will always be behind CGI films, but knowing the talent in the video game industry. It'll only keep getting better!
Probably because many of them weren't born to remember when Toy Story and PS2 was a thing.
Toy Story level graphics are the end all be all of gaming graphics....
Graphics don't mean shit over Gameplay. Gameplay is the most important factor of any game. Breath of the Wild and Shadow of War this year gonna show this whole gen how it's done. Witcher 3 already did tbf
I think its just simply a generational thing, younger gamers just dont see how far we've come because they never experienced those early days when that's all we had. For the older generation still gaming that played games like the very first Tomb Raider with its blocky models and now play a game like Horizon Zero Dawn see just how much games have advanced because they've been there throughout as gaming has progressed and advanced over time.
what the hell are you talking about? There's been comparison videos about it. There's been featurettes and articles written about it. There's been games that's already achieved this. Not to say it's not amazing, but don't say no one cares.
didn't you get the memo gamers dont care about graphics and graphics dont matte now.r what do you this this is launch ps4 era
well I care!
I've seen at least 8 separate articles noting that we've "literally got Toy Story quality graphics now," in the last couple of days. Everyone noticed. Moving on...
I don't think it has achieved Pixar level yet. We may have Pixar character models but the background of still looks like a video game. In order for the game to be Pixar quality then it needs both the background and character models to acheive it. If you notice the footage from the battle in the toy factory the design is still looks to small for it. I am hoping next gen developers focus on making backgrounds seem more like this. The game that has been able to achieve good foreground/background so far has been Bloodborne and Horizon Zero Dawn but it is still far from pixel perfect.