Aaron Greenberg reveals that game developers are excited about the Xbox One X.
That right there is massively important, if ture
Indeed. But I really wanted exclusives on this thing. I dont like the "over" emphasis of 4K that MS is putting on Xbox One X. That machine can render insane visuals at 1080p if uitilized correctly. Imagine a full blown Gears 5 exclusive only on X, that would be amazing. But I guess this will be a dream only, for now.
the thing is powerful and it will get exclusives too...but remember all these in 1or 2 years from now.....by then Xone X will continuously stumble upon dozen of qualtiy exclusives from Sony...just imagine some of them-- Bloodborne2 (you know its coming or a similar hit from FromSOft ) FF VII , LoUS2 , GoW(not my personal favorite),the semi-exclusive ultra hit MonHunWorld (<3love there) , Death Stranding and many more that are in the tube ....literally will be one rough road for XoneX and at the end of it (when at last will have some exclusive to be worth pruchasing) - -PS5 will break loose leaving no hope for any competition ...literally i dnot know why MS chose that strategy instead of waiting to make an even more powerful XboxTwo to compete in next gen , this thing (Xone X ) is a walking undead, waitng to be headshooted ....
Horizon Zero Dawn reportedly just broke the 3 million mark in sales which is very good. Not many games actually hit that mark and sales are still growing. As impressive as this is, it's still only 5% of the user base. Exclusives are a great way to differentiate a console, but the emphasis you and many others on n4g place on them is exaggerated and the only reason you do it is because it's the only thing left to brag about. Everything else that was important to the vocal fan base here on n4g has been addressed by Microsoft and now doesn't matter. Face it, if Microsoft had more exclusives than Sony today, the issue would be there are too many and people can't figure out which to choose. Less would become better. Look how people are starting to complain that 4K games are too big now...
@Death: "Face it, if Microsoft had more exclusives than Sony today, the issue would be there are too many and people can't figure out which to choose. " What a ridiculous comment. Do you hear Xbox fanboys saying this now? I don't. You're inventing a speculative argument no one has made or ever would make. "Look how people are starting to complain that 4K games are too big now..." What's that got to do with exclusives? Totally different topic. The space 4K textures can take up is a viable issue due to the time to download, ISP caps, and the size of the HDDs found in consoles today. It's in no way an argument against 4K gaming. It's just an unfortunate reality of full 4K textures (which will generally hopefully be optional, not required).
Welp there u have it folks - only time u know something is BS is when the used car salesman tells u it's no Bullsh*t.
@Death Horizon Zero Dawn sold that much in under 6 months, that's impressive no matter how you slice it, especially considering that it's only 5% of the user base. That means that there is still a lot of room for it to grow. Over 3 million × $60 = over $180 million. That's huge for a new a IP in a couple of months. I like seeing good games become successful, especially if they are new and fresh. Exclusives aren't something Playstation fans are just now toting to try to deflect attention from Xone X, they're something we've always had. They're the main thing that differentiate the consoles, what's the point of having different consoles if they all play the exact same games? They are also the reason PS4 has sold three times as many consoles as Xbox One. They just keep trying too hard in all the wrong places.
@Frosty, What do exclusives have to do with an article about third party games? Weird how every positive article posted about Xbox One turns into "there are no games or exclusives" in the comments section. To answer your question, no I don't see Xbox fans saying there are too many exclusives on PS4. It's the very vocal Sony fans that always have to have better and more. The way most of them talk, Sony sends out every single game published on PS4 for free, they all have played more than the 1200 games available on the Xbox One and they all have a killer gaming PC for Xbox One exclusives. Reality shows that the average PS4 gamer owns 7.5 games and excellent games like Horizon Zero Dawn appeal to 5% of Playstation owners. This is no slight against PS4 since exclusives regardless of platform are lucky to achieve this number. In their height of popularity GT and Halo came closer to 10% attach rate, but these are exceptions not the rule. The emphasis many are putting on exclusives and the size of each library is exaggerated to the point of being ridiculous. Look at the published stats, 50% of Xbox gamers used the b/c feature on their Xbox One and 5% of PS4 owners have bought Horizon. Look at the numbers on use for other features like Netflix on consoles. Check out the sheer amount of third party games compared to exclusives on PS4 and Xbox One. Features and benefits have more impact than any game. Both consoles have established core franchises and large diverse game libraries. It's not a question of games at this point. The only reason so much emphasis is being placed on exclusives is because it is the last thing PS4 owners can hold over Xbox fans heads. You really have nothing to worry about. Dynamic 4K will look awesome with HDR and the games each of you love will not be impacted if Xbox does something better. You don't have to have the best or be the best in everything to enjoy what you have.
@Death Nevermind, I was going to say the only reason I brought up Horizon or exclusives is because you did, but then I saw you were just replying to everybody up there ^^
@ Death So if Horizon is 5% of the user base guess how many are there for other AAA exclusive titles as well... I for one didn't buy Horizon because it didn't seem like my cup of tea. Nor did I buy Uncharted 4 for the same reason. But I'm here for Death Stranding, Spiderman, Shadow of the Colossus, Shenmue III, Final Fantasy VII Remake, The Last of Us Part II, Dragon Quest XI, Persona 5, Neir Automata, and the list goes on. Sony has far more AA/AAA titles and we're all here for something else. It's like saying this. Say we ALL love stew. So we get a big thing of gravy mix(third parties). But we don't eat stew everyday. Furthermore, I don't like Paprika or Celery Seed in my food. (Uncharted and Horizon). So do I go with the store that only sells gravy mix?(MS and third parties?), Or do I go to the store that has all the spices I need, including gravy but use in lesser quantities. PS4 has my gravy, my salt, pepper, garlic powder, taco seasoning, cumin powder, and so on. I'm going to the PS store that has everything even if I don't use it as often. You MS supporters are chugging gravy and most are getting sick and jumping ship to PS4 as sales have shown. It's a dumb analogy, but I'm trying to dumb down the picture for you. You're chugging third parties and wondering why MS is losing.
@Death Quote : To answer your question, no I don't see Xbox fans saying there are too many exclusives on PS4 .... You don't say. It's easy to find posts here on N4G. You'll be surprised.
Death is exactly right. The idea of Microsoft's deficiencies is some kind of misplaced insecurity projected on a corporation. Anything positive will be turned into a negative if Microsoft does it. Any negative will be blown out of proportion. Look at price. Microsoft is often called greedy. They are taking a loss on X. People say the console cost too much. People don't buy their exclusives, highly rated or not. People say they need to make more. Sony charges for BC through Now, great service! Microsoft offers BC built in, Who plays old games? They can't win. That's why they need to tell the critics to STFU and move on with their own vision. Stop trying to appease morons who obviously disagree with themselves. Hell, Apple charges $900 for a phone that cost half what it cost to make Scorpio. No one complains. They look for a deal or wait for the price to come down. The reality is if you're constantly demonizing Xbox the reason is a lack of reasoning. You probably support some extreme political view on the far left or right. You probably latch on to some stereotype. You probably live your life based on "what you're supposed to do". How somebody told you it is. You gotta think for yourself. The crowd is usually stupid.
I don't think they should have exclusives for the next 2-3 years. Especially as ms are releasing ltd exclusives at the moment anyway.
I imagine a Gears 5 would be Play Anywhere. And frankly I don't think MS would mind at all if people bought their games on PC via their store. Also, you think MS would relegate Gears 5 to only 1X and drop orig X1 support? Never happen. They'd be leaving alot of money on the table by dropping orig X1.
If MS exec says its true, then it must be true.
It's not just the MS exec, it's also on the internet!
Am I the only one seeing Aaron Greenberg sweating profusely with a gold chain necklace with his shirt unbuttoned one too many trying to sell me a pinto?
The problem Im having is that you think its only MS execs praising the X. You know there have been quite a few devs already confirming this. But to keep with the hate narrative you play dumb...
Lex I prefer to let the games and the devs do the talking. Give me silence from MS as anything they say will ultamately sound like hollow marketing. I mean give it break don't oversell it or it will blowback. It's a 4K machine not the next gen coming of console nirvana some ppl seem to think. It will render games at 4K - it won't have exclusives and it won't have games that are designed differently for it.
@lex Nobody cares what random indie developer thinks about hardware he's partnered with to release a timed exclusive on. His "opinion" is laughable when it comes to finding honesty.
PS4 - FOR THE STAKEHOLDERS
you could just read to stories about things you like instead of trolling MS
It's important that Xbox's Product guy says that devs like their system? Really? Do you find it equally important that Kraft Mac N' Cheese claims to be "the cheesiest"? We all know what the system is capable of at this point. The specs are in black and white and there's not some unknown secret sauce here. No need for such fluff pieces or anyone's opinion on how fast it is, because everybody *knows* what we're dealing with. All that matters now is the games.
MS is having a tough time messaging this new console. On the one hand they have to portray it as vastly superior to anything out there performance wise. But this speaks to not only their competition but also their own product the X1. Much of their install base, particularly kids who rely upon their parents to buy their console, are going to feel like they are second class. So imagine the kid who gets a X1s last year and now has to go tell his parents oh I need the X1X now. So who is MS's target market this year? I have to imagine it's loyal XB players with disposable income ready to spend on an upgrade. MS needs game releases, not announcements. Announcements are nice but till delivered everyone takes them with some skepticism.
If true are your key words right there ...
What about your first party devs, what do they think about it? "Um, let me see... *whispers off into the corner cubicle* What do you think about it?" "...He says it's awesome."
What's important is a clear vision. This is not a new gen, but an upgraded 4k option. And 1st party titles sell consoles!
So far it's quite mixed results
so you are saying that some devs aren't excited at what they can do with the Xbox One X?
Cant make this shit up... Mixed results? .Link me a developer who hasnt been impressed with The X. Not a Sony dev either.
Mixed results are from Sony fanboys posting "LOL its not 4k 60fps in all games, suck it Xbone fans"
@OMGitzThatGuy "Mixed results are from Sony fanboys posting "LOL its not 4k 60fps in all games, suck it Xbone fans" Let's be honest here Xbox fans caused there own downfall on that one by constantly saying every game was going to 4k/60fps. They even called people who tried to be rational about the situation and point out that wouldn't be the case names. And it was Microsoft's fault for misleading the gullible by basically implying that would be the case with all there over-hype and false advertising.
@tyasia0 You ask for honesty and then go on to lie. It was blatantly obvious that not all games would be 4k...but wasnt at all surprising to see certain people jump on that fact like it was something "new" and unexpected.
Which developer has not liked the One X?
Where are those results? Maybe they're under that mound of salt.
At 499 they cant be. If the sales of the pro are much lower the og...
4k @60fps, give it one year and see what happens 4k @60fps, ps5 will land in 2019-20, no sooner, the next Xbox 2021-22 maybe [email protected] as a option if you have a 8k monitor and it will be BC as standard and have more first parties than current.
Wtf are you smoking 8k 120fps is a 200k pc in,2020
No console is going 8K any time remotely soon (next 10 years probably). Next gen will be 4K/60 for all (but nintendo probably) and actually be manageable and better looking than now too. Probably better physics too like some games skimp on in at least 1-2 ways (Horizon was gorgeous but no real Aloy enabled water physics for one). Vegetation physics is also usually varied (the walking through ones instead of plants moving with you--which U4 at times did better than even Horizon, at least on a more often basis).
lol it's gonna take another 3-5yrs for 4k to take off on the consumer market and you're talking 8k? Lol slow down
I work with video game studios a lot (we do a lot of trailers and in-game cinematics like rise of the tomb raider) and as such I have made a lot of friends and contacts as well as working relationships (bonus is I always get free games) but literally everyone I talk to is impressed by this console and they are all wanting to push things further with it which will only make things more amazing on the consumer side. The buzz on the floor at e3 was also fantastic for it.
Shhhh.... don’t say that, fan-boys will say that you lie and you don't work with video game studios just so they can still think XBOX X is Sh!T.
This is a statement coming directly from Microsoft PR which should put into perspective how objective it is. Of course devs aren't going to say anything bad about it, Microsoft is a partner. But what people should keep in mind is how after Microsoft E3 show everyone was gloating about how EA gave it so much praise till it was pointed out that EA basically said the exact same things about the PS4 Pro at it's launch. No one is going to come out and say anything but praises. We'll see as time goes on how much is talk and how much is reality.
Yup i know. You would never believe all this talk unless yoshida and cenry come to you personally and say "zis is de beast zat we mizzed and did Pro". I also understand that you have to live with it for next two years too or may be more.
Of course I know in a strange way you really mean to say, "Death Stranding" (DS) is going to suck. Because obviously when Sony's Shawn Layden said the other day he played it and it was going to be "revolutionary and more" that is what you should do twist that PR to into something else, right? Ignore his PR words and create your own interpretation. Anything a companies spoke hole says you just twist it to mean what you want it to mean. They can't be trusted. Knowing that we should just assume it is all PR BS and DS is actually in dire straights, Kojima is a pain to work with and Sony is overall worried right? Obviously it must be true, DS was not at E3, but Layden has played it, so all is good. What else is the CEO of SIE, the highest PR agent of a a company, going to say right,? It obviously can't be "revolutionary" oh and "more". /s Well, at least with the XBOX there are multiple outside sources praising it. So, even if you think this is PR from Microsoft it just isn't one guy blowing smoke like Layden is for DS. And before all you PS4 fanboys get your tighty-whities in a bunch I don't think DS is having issues and I look forward to the game. I am just having fun with his assumption that everything from a company employee means it is not objective and truthful. And in the case of the XBOX, there are dozens of other developers and industry insiders saying the same thing as the Microsoft exec.
Well MS is caught talking up their stuff to levels they never reach all the time. I mean all the time.
3rd parties were going to develop for Xbox regardless of the X1X or not. Tell me when they get some exclusive studios or have real exclusives that aren't playable on PC at 4k/60 fps. A few things I will complement them on are the compact design of the console, the vapor chamber cooling and UHD blu ray drive, Sony definitely missed the mark on the last one. (I have a Pro)
No hard feelings bro... I dont have PC capable of running 1080p games. What do you suggest.... Build one or buy xbox one 'xyz'. I had 360 (the collection is big) and most importantly i will die for Halo.
If you dont own a capable pc at all in the sense that you would have to upgrade pretty much every component then get an X. IT will be a lot cheaper. In the long run the PC would be cheaper but you wont see the savings until 5+ years from now or once next gen hits. The current halo is no big deal unless youre in love with the multiplayer aspect, in which case then its a must buy. All in all with Xbox you wont have to worry about losing your games for next gen since theyre pushing forward and backward compatibility. Really depends on the kind of money you have and if youre willing to deal with some frustrations with building a pc.
so you admit it was bullshit at some point or that they came off as they were marketing it as BS? xD
I don't think the third party developers would want to touch it. There's a more risk than return just to develop games for that thing. They would rather go with the one with the higher installed base and less risk, with higher return.
Its PC right? It is better to develop and customise on xbox one x dev kit right or just do it on PC and then port to all others.
I don't see why you're saying that considering that there have been several comments where they're able to get games running on Xbox One X within a few hours or even a few days lol seems like development for it is as simple as ever and they like it
But when showcasing their game theyd likely go with the one capable of running it the best. So that is either PC or Xbox X
Yet going by the articles about third devs who actually are going to touch it makes your theory wrong and just wishfull thinking
The devs have nothing but praise for Xbox One X.
Really weird that he said that.. Nintendo exec said same thing about switch 😂
And another one. You Sony Fans are going to say it is a MS Exec, lets take MS Execs out the equations. When you look at it Devs are not saying the same thing they said about 4 PRO. They are actually saying alot more with more confidence. It was not so when the 4PRO launched prior or after. 8 months or so into 4PRO and guess what guys xboX has been getting better praises 5 months from launch. NO such thing happened for the 4PRO. I wish they would give new info. This is not new info. They are going to Drip drop us media pics and video till it Cometh!
Love that headline... No BS!
Devs have been praising 1x to the sky. It must be extremely easy to develop for.
they had gear 4 running in 4k within 2 days with enough room for overheads so I think the upgrade path is alot easier
Just let me preorder it! IT IS TIME!
death come on man exclusives don't matter than explain how nintendo has been able to stay in business with little to no 3rd party support since SNES? we don't put a bigger importance on exclusives because ps4 has them and xbox one doesn't have as many we do because that creates value and something different for your console and your argument about horizon selling 3.4 million copies is wrong too because with ps4 we have diversity so everyone doesn't just run to the store to buy the same thing. Look at uncharted 4 selling 9 plus million and horizon will be 6-7 million lifetime sales xbox fan base needs to expect more instead of asking other fan bases to settle for less. we expect more from sony because we know their firepower with 1st-2nd party studios/partnerships and don't say exclusives are the be all end all but they are very important. if all 3 console makers were offering the same games than why should someone buy a xbox over ps4 or switch or xbox etc,
Well just because some people like exclusives that Sony is offering doesn't mean everybody does...I personally didn't see a single game at Sony's E3 that I was truly interested in that wasn't multi-platform aside from that game With the little white mouse guy for PSVR. Exclusives are great and I wish Microsoft had more of them, but the point is I won't die without having the most exclusives, and I won't hate owning my console if it has less exclusives, and I wouldn't hate on other people's console simply because of them either. Nothing you Sony worshippers say or do will make me switch... if anything I would own a PS and an XB, but I would never switch platforms entirely. I have nearly 80,000 gamerscore and I like Xbox's ui, features, and other benefits aside from just exclusives 24/7. I don't think anybody here is discrediting the value of exclusives, it just seems like people like you seem to be overstating the value of exclusives. Just cuz Sony has more of em doesn't translate into "best for everyone no matter what" Just like best GFX on console, doesn't mean EVERYONE must get an Xbox one X At the end of the day, These are boxes to play games on, as long as you playing games on it and you enjoy it then you're doing the right thing. I have unlocked 2000+ in achievements just this month so far. I'm probably more hardcore about my gaming sessions and getting platinums and achievements than the average gamer. And even if someone was not as hardcore into gaining as I am, we don't need to be sold to over and over or be ridiculed and hear the hypnotized/indoctrinated worship for Sony 24/7... you guys sound like a broken record and it gets so fucking old you have no idea how annoying it is to read XBOX ARTICLES and see more idiots saying "Sony this, sony that, excluuusiiuvvveesss" Like we're new to gaming and have no worth unless we are also worshipping Sony along side you. We already know every Sony Fanboys opinion. The question is do you guys realize how much time and energy you have spent saying the exact same fucking things and still nobody cares? Get out of the xbox articles, and you'll find there is almost NEVER a troll in YOUR precious Sony articles. Being a douche at every possible opportunity is "Exclusive"
You don't believe there's never a troll in ps articles do you?
@blacktar There is, but 1 or 2 comments that are trolling per sony article maybe vs. 100 out of 150 comments are pure trash per xbox article
With everything Microsoft are offering its getting harder to ignore, just might have to consider getting a xbox 1x seems to be a better offering then the pro.
That depends what games your after surely more than anything else. At the moment its only promising promises. Of course devs are happy, its a more powerful Xbox One which makes it easy to get games running and makes it easier to add extra a low cost. If you look at a games machine and think power, then I'm afraid your missing the point of a games machine.
Not really. Obviously his interest means multiplats are involved so. Standard ps4 for exclusives and Xbox X for multiplats. Unless he has a pc in which case it should be standard ps4 and PC with at least a !5 and 1070 or so.