Reggie Fils-Aime talked to Bloomberg about Nintendo's technological philisophy. He says it's about fun over powerful specs.
I don't know what Nintendo could possibly say about the specs of their big steaming piece of crap known as the switch. At least it's better than the Game Boy or maybe from the guys who brought you Virtual Boy. But I think would be more like we're Nintendo and we don't care. I will give credit where it's due and say Zelda is fantastic though. My favorite would be Nintendo switch from the guys who did you Dirty on the NES Mini.
If you are that into graphics than you must only play on PC. Because everything is a big steaming pile of crap compared to a PC that is $3000 plus dollars. If on the other hand you play console games than you do so because you enjoy playing great games. Guess what? Switch has a bunch of great games on it and coming to it.
Is the Switch as powerful as the PS4/Xbox One? Nope, not at all. What the Switch is, is a great platform with great games on it. Would someone only want to own a Switch? Goodness no. A Switch plus your favorite console or PC is the way to go. Honestly, the best thing would be a Switch, Gaming PC, and one of the Xbox Family products and Sony Family products.
If you just want graphics, than you are look for a ultra high-end PC. The Switch is a handheld/console with fun games. Thats all it needs to be right now. If you don't like it then fine, everyone has different taste. But that doesnt make the Switch a bad platform.
So based on your lecture above the are only two kinds of audiences out there, the guys who hate graphics ( switch owners, apparently) and the super hardcore 3000 dollar PC videophiles?
Forgive me but are you on something? What about..you know the mainstream people aka the largest and most diverse audience there is? (Hint } ps4 and xb1 gamers).
It's trash!! Nintendo knows it's trash that's why the distribution intensity is soooo low; they want the system to be rare so it can create more buzz. All they do is throw you mario Kart, Smash Bros, Pokémon, and a Mario game each gen. I'm grown, I'm tired of their overly vibrant colors!
How come the PC illiterate people always state the only way to PC game is to spend $3000 or some extreme amount of money?
So if I wanted to buy a car does that mean I can only buy a Ford Focus or an Audi R8?
FYI: PC gaming tends to be the best for a lot more than just looking better. It's all about having more control of your experience. The options alone make PC gaming much better. How can console people game without a FOV slider is mind boggling. I guess what they have never used, they won't miss.
According to you anything without an X on the plastic box is not worth it huh? Just leave these types or articles alone then, hmm?
I agreed with you cleft5, until you said nobody would want to own just switch. I Own just switch (unless you count Wii U or 3DS) this generation , and I'm happy with it. The type of games released on Xbox almost never appeal to me personally, and for Playstation, I just use my PSTV and PSNow to play the old classics I like for roughly $20 a month. But I play on Just Switch now and haven't touched the PSTV or even hardly my 3DS since March.
"Forgive me but are you on something? What about..you know the mainstream people aka the largest and most diverse audience there is? (Hint } ps4 and xb1 gamers). "
I don't only play on PC. Plus tons of PS4 AAA exclusives are looking better than Ultra PC games.(Imagine what Ninty 1st party could do with that kind of power)
I'm also not hard to please. I think Switch's graphics are unacceptable at this time. Mario Odyssey's Aliasing looks like a jigsaw puzzle. But if Switch's successor just has some good AA and around 50% better graphics, which it likely will, I'm SO down.
I'm not asking for the world. I'm just disappointed that a $199 stationary console would have had 2x as much power for a cheaper price, and that's where I expect the sequel to be graphically. And that level is 150% acceptable to me for their types of games. I'd be all over that like white on rice. I'm just kind of disappointed that the Ninty experience I want is 5-7 years away.
"Forgive me but are you on something? What about..you know the mainstream people aka the largest and most diverse audience there is? (Hint } ps4 and xb1 gamers).
Here I am minding my own business and boom comes crushing down a glowing star called tontontam0...
Tell me what about a discussion between the Switch, PC and everything BETWEEN did you fail to understand?
3DS is not mainstream, not by a long shot its what Soccer mums buy their 6 year old kids(mostly).
Easy there buddy *pats you on the head*
Feel better now you got that out of your system?
The games they make or are made for their system are awesome, that's what counts in my book, not the power it has or doesn't have.
What about all the awesome third party games that aren't and won't be on the system? Does that just not matter generation after generation because it's Nintendo?
Your acting like Ps or Xbox don't have any good games. The Ps4 itself has better overall rated games than the Wii in its whole lifetime. The switch has 1 good game that's it. And that doesn't save it from being the pile of crap it really is. No surround sound, no proper online feature a big miss by not adding sun card technology. These guys don't know anything about making a good console. Just making good games that appeal to simple minded people. (Like you). That's why disney movies make way more money because it's simple, cars just beat wonder woman in the box office. But that doesnt make one better than the other.
Whoa there dude! Was that really meant for me? I think you're mistaking me with someone else!
When did I say the PS4 and X1 don't have any good games for instance? If I had said that then it would be crazy to own so many of them, perhaps I should sell my PS4 Pro huh, 'cos according to you I don't like any of the games?
Don't be so simple minded yourself, clearly you have no clue what's going on here, perhaps you need a little nap?
That sort of thing would only matter to someone who only buys one console and only plays those games. I don't care if the big 3rd party titles aren't being released on the Switch, I will buy them for my PS4 Pro anyways, even if they did release for Switch...
since when did being grown mean you have to stop liking bright colors or Nintendo games? I swear i don't get that mindset. There's only 3 real rules to being grown
1.Pay your bills
2.Obey the law
3. Raise your kids (assuming you have any)
You need a hug?
Nintendo is like a blessing in these days of videogaming.
No, they really aren't.
Nintendo is poison to the industry. All these casual mainstreamers buy the system and then game developers start catering to them than the core gamers that actually buy more than 2 games a console. (Example wii)
I'm glad there's Nintendo because their games are 100% fun. Zelda is the best single player game i've ever played and that's saying a lot.
After E3 i feel like 80% of the upcoming games for the "big consoles" look the same.
Personally i'm 100 times more hyped for Metroid 4 than for Anthem.
But to each their own,.
I'm sick of all this power talk. When have games ever been amazing because of looks? Nothing about looks at all. Game play is what makes a game. Look at games in the same gore and Mario Kart and how many have had the same quality? Or Super Smash Bros?
We have amazing looking games like Horizon but compared to Zelda it has different things that's added to it. Like things float or catch fire in Zelda they don't in Horizon.
The switch as a hybrid console is a beast so to say and for me I don't want another console saying me to we have the xbox and PlayStation for that.
Enjoy the games you want and let other enjoy the games they want. Really is simple and more important things going on in the world than whos console is the best.
Well Graphics is what made GTA what is it today, you think the series would be a big if it still had an over the top view? Graphics are more important than you think.
That's a camera angle/perspective. That's not graphics.
I think it was more than just a camera angle.
@2pac Wt your saying is something that was occuring as a generational shift and was huge for the game industry as a whole. The difference between PS4, Xbox, and switch is not that huge. Games still look great on switch only people that nitpick and want to bash the system will deny it or those that haven't played it.
Right, but Nintendo is the only one that has not moved on from the GC era graphics, they only make minor improvements and moved to HD.
Just look at that UE4 Mario game someone made, that would be a huge leap.
@2pacalypsenow not really no. GTA was moved over last gen and the WiiU has lego city which is gta type game. Also people did not buy GTA because it was the best looking game and GTA was big before it want to an open world.
My point is that Graphics don't make the game the same in GTA its the openness of the game that makes it sell a lot of copy's. Look at COD games for example we all know they never look as good as BF games yet it always outsells them because people prefer the gameplay.
Don't get me wrong I love games that make me say wow when you see the graphics but if the game is not fun to play then there is no point in it looking amazing.
Also to prove it who do people still go back to classic games on consoles form the 90s. I still own an amiga32 and often play friends and family on games like Speedball 2, Superskidmarks, worms even pull out the n64 and go on golden eye and PD as well as classic's like Marko kart 64, daddy king racing and more.
Fun and game play is what makes a game never its looks.
GTA had no where near the popularity it got with 3, most people did not even know about GTA until 3 released.
Errrmmm game play?
Driver 2 did 3D before GTA 3.
By your logic they are both equally in all but graphics?
Not really Grand Theft Auto was a massive success during those PlayStation 2 days using renderware despite it being very dated looking in fact all you have to do is look at Grand Theft Auto San Andreas versus God of War or Resident Evil 4.
Grand Theft Auto Got to where it was by actually being a fun game and omitting graphical fidelity.
Grand Theft Auto received it success because there's a very fun game the game physically feels fun to actually play it's why a plethora of open-world crime games around that time. Did not meet the same level of success as Grand Theft Auto.
Thank _-EDMIX-_ that was the point I was trying to make.
No, graphics are absolutely not important to have fun.
Power is about more than looks. I'm sick of people acting like Nintendo gets a pass because "graphics don't matter." All the games people are playing are not on the platform. Having GTA and Battlefield and Battlefront and Fallout and anything shown at E3 outside if Nintendo's showcase would change a lot of people's mind. But nope, all irrelevant because Nintendo. I'm pretty sure people would jump at the idea of taking these games with them if it were possible.
PC and Switch is all you really need.
PC and Switch is all I really need.
Fixed it for you.
I'm currently on XB1S (day 1 XB1X) and Switch and I'm doing fine. Nintendo's exclusives excite me, Sony's don't apart from 2 or 3 games.
That's why i changed to you personally and not everyone else.
@eddie-that might be one of the stupidest statements I've read in a while what's even stupider about it is you stated PC but you own an Xbox despite Microsoft games all being put on PC.
That being said why on Earth would you then buy an Xbox One X if you hide a PC but you also have an Xbox One S wait a minute but you don't own a PlayStation 4?
That's has being stupid as saying you enjoy Netflix but you're going to get the streaming service that has the exact same content as Netflix but you're going to ignore the streaming service that has content you've never seen before.....
I'm sorry but I failing to understand how you own an Xbox and a PC but also buying an Xbox One X day one you're actually going to own three systems that basically play all the same games 😂😂😂
You seriously have to explain this one to me because all logic is completely thrown out the window with this understanding.
Mind you this has nothing to do with whether you like the Xbox or not but it has to question what's the purpose if not for games? Once those games are all coming to PC what benefit would it be for you to have the same system?
It would actually make more sense if you sold that Xbox and didn't buy the Xbox One X and instead bought a PlayStation 4 only because you would then have three systems that were playing the vast majority of all the hardcore games.
Your PC would play all of Microsoft's games as well as games not coming over to consoles
the Nintendo switch would have Nintendo's exclusives
the PlayStation 4 what have Sony's exclusives as well as the Japanese games that likely are not moving to other platforms Yakuza persona etc
Once again simply just based on games in regards to availability it makes very little sense to actually own a PC and then to other versions of an Xbox while not owning a PlayStation 4.
Again so we're clear that's like saying you own Netflix you want to get another streaming service that is exactly like Netflix with all the same content but you also want to get another streaming service that's the like Netflix with all the same content but you don't want to partake in the streaming service that has exclusive content you've never seen before....
To what benefit is it for you to have a PC and Xbox One S and an Xbox One X....
Yeah no PlayStation 4? I mean it literally makes you sound stupid as a consumer because you're basically saying you're spending money on Hardware that's essentially playing 99.9% of the same content.
I don't even know if there's a game that's coming to the Xbox that is even exclusive to that platform specifically.
Who are you talking to? Your delusional self?
I can't imagine gaming without PS4 personally. The games, man.
Depends on what you like. Ive never cared for sony exclusives, dating all the way back to the psx days. Just not my kind of games. So Im a pc,switch,xb gamer who occasionally buys ps games once the gens are well into play. (no ps4 yet this gen, though im mily interested in a few upcoming titles)
As fpr the topic, Im loving my switch. Cant beat it as a portable, and the ability to drop in in ehen I get home and continue om the big screen is priceless. Games so far are solid(ive bought more than 20)
Name your fave games?
I can't imagine that there aren't Sony exclusives that are in a genre that you also like, their games are rather diverse, so it's weird to hear one doesn't like any of the Sony exclusives since the PS1 days even!!!
Sounds more like you want to convince yourself you made a good decision....
@some-it does depend on what you like but I have no clue on what you mean not caring for Sony exclusives what teams are you even specifically talking about? Also how do you even know what these teams are going to make in the future? Isn't Sucker Punch making a new IP? So I don't understand? You know you won't like a game before it's even been presented?
😂😂😂 128514; Ok pal.
This isn't like Microsoft or Nintendo where they essentially just make the same intellectual properties over and over and over again Sony actually makes a lot of new intellectual properties it's very difficult to have an opinion on something you haven't even seen yet.
I'm sorry but I have no clue why anyone would be a PC and Xbox gamer especially considering Microsoft move towards multi-platform has actually made owning both essentially irrelevant it would make more sense to own a PlayStation 4 as it would mean you're playing all the categories of games not less.
Would you get Netflix and then also get a streaming service that basically had 99.9% of Netflix as well or would you get a streaming service that had exclusive content?
You don't need to like the current exclusive content with the fact that they're always creating new exclusive Series be enough to justify spending the money elsewhere.
I'm having a hard time understanding how someone spending money on a PC and an Xbox to get the same games..
What game is even coming out on the Xbox that could only be found on the Xbox?
No one is buying Switch for its graphical prowess. It has a great hybrid form factor and some really good games. It still needs a lot of work though. Definitely needs more games and apps. I'm don't favor Switch over my PC and PS4, but it is a great second console as it has less overlap in games. I bought Switch for unique experiences, not more of what I already have.
Our two competitors believe that it’s all about processing power and beautiful graphics. Candidly, Nintendo believes in releasing the same fun video games over and over and over again. Our technology is a small part of what we deliver”.
He is right. It's all about games and how much they entertain you (not necessarily fun) ... but graphics help.
"Our two competitors believe that it’s all about processing power and beautiful graphics. Candidly, Nintendo believes in fun. Our technology is a small part of what we deliver”.
No, they don't believe it's ALL about power (well, maybe MS does), but they believe that a certain degree of power should be the standard. Doesn't have to be a high end PC, but at least enough to run 3rd party multiplats. I don't think that's too much to ask. They seem to be pointing to a false dichtomy. It doesn't have to be "fun" or "powerful", it can be fun AND have some power. Console companies can walk and chew gum, they don't have to decide between those 2 options, they can do both.
Agreed I don't actually think Sony or Microsoft believe that at all and I find it quite disrespectful that they would even try to throw that type of shade simply because they have the Lesser install base at the moment with the weaker platform.
I don't think that Microsoft and Sony are just publishing games and telling the teams to make sure the games are not fun.
Nintendo might think they're throwing shade at the console makers but they're actually disrespecting those developers that are working hard to produce content that have nothing to do with Fanboy banter.
As if fun and power were complete opposites. Just the same crap excuse as always, what they really mean to say is that they want the most profit with the least effort.
Bingo! You hit the nail on the head. Nintendo's philosophy has always been to make the cheapest possible hardware, then throw in a gimmick to try to reel people in. They don't care about delivering genuinely competitive hardware for the money, and that is why their future in the gaming industry is very much uncertain.
Once the novelty of the Switch wears off, and the core diehard fans have gotten ahold of one, sales are going to tank hard. People will realize that very few 3rd party games are coming, and the Switch will go the same way as the Wii U. It's just a matter of time.
I don't get this assumption that only Nintendo games are "fun"....Reggie says it like Sony and MS don't make fun games... I think the sales say different. I personally think the Playstation and Xbox (or though no where near the same level) have plenty of fun games, that also perform well and look great for the price of the respective systems. Add in the expected functionality of a 2017 video games console, Online play, app support, cloud saves, voice chat etc all are fleshed out and were availble at launch...
To me this is classic Reggie damage control... "our system is weak spec-wise to the competiton, our internal storage is low, our competitors games all look and run better, but our games are "fun" "
Nintendo should be trying to achieve all of these things, not just bunning them all off with a cheap quote like this.
I agree. That was a stupid thing for him to say. Some of these execs just need to learn when to just shut the hell up.
It's all about making Mario pixels look good for Nintendo.
rubbish, this confirms the switch will always get the extreme lesser port of most of the popular games
reading comments online these days make me miss when SEGA was still doing consoles instead of XBox. You know? Back before XBox started the whole power battle with their stupid slogan "There is no power greater than X"
Like seriously. Minecraft of all games is literally getting a Super Duper Graphics Pack. Thats just silly
Conveniently forgets the "Now you're playing with power" NINTENDO slogan.
Didn't forget. It's common knowledge that Xbox started this arms race. They have been pushing for power since their first console
now that i officially own a switch, a ps4 pro an xbox one S (2 actually but i will magically transform one into a one X in Nov with the help of $500) i will say my honest opinion about switch as an owner.
Its a great, fun piece of kit but as an actual home console, its pretty hard to take seriously as an actual competitor to the ps4 and x1. Thats not to say that it doesn't have some good titles (botw obviously plus Arms and Mario Kart are a blast) but here are my reasons for saying this:
1) games - some great ones available as mentioned but for me - i prefer games like GTA, Forza, Gran Turismo, HZD, Gears of War, Fallout etc. Those games will never come to Switch for a few reasons so you're going to be stuck with little indie filler games and some more cartoony first party titles or weird alternate (mobile) versions of popular games (fifa anyone?) - which is fine i guess if thats all you like, but i personally have a more sophisticated palate i guess.
2) part of the reason switch won't ever get these games is because it just can't run them. its apparent from the initial boot up that the Switch is not anywhere even close to the x1 or ps4 in terms of power - absolutely especially with the one X and ps4 pro on the scene. BOTW is a fantastic game but it looks 10 years old compared to HZD or Gears and when i play it i have fun but I can't help but wonder how it could have been with some more power. its a thought thats constantly in my mind when you see the world and its pretty but then you realize how much its missing. The environments in HZD in comparison are jaw dropping and make you really feel like you're there. i could totally see zelda running in a world that looked as amazing as HZD and it would be more beautiful and captivating for it. BOTW feels about like an iPad game visually.
3) it isn't a console. sorry. it hooks up to your tv and gets a small clock up when it does but it doesn't compete. its got a standard hdmi port (not the latest v2.x) and a usb port (not usb 3) in a dock that honestly feels like a cheap toy. 1080p output only. no surround sound, no optical out, no anything out, no HDR. just those two ports. no HDD support and no way to move data or copy it. It has no apps (at least yet) so its functionality is absolutely limited to only using it for games (which is a bummer if you travel a lot and maybe just wanna watch a movie but only take one device).
What i do like about the switch is the tablet itself and the joy con feel higher quality than the dock (which feels like an after thought honestly). I like that despite its lack of being an actual real console, its great as a portable and its versatility in that regard is fantastic. Its a bit cumbersome to keep track of all the pieces you need to transform it from its various configuartions (and the controls can also get confusing at times because of this - particularly with Arms) but Im not entirely sure how they would have avoided that no matter what.
I don't see the switch as a competitor (or threat) to the other 2 consoles because at the end of the day it really isn't one and the people that play really hard adult themed games that require power and performance would never have anything to play on switch nor would they have the power necessary to run the software. I think of the switch as the Xbox One X of 3DS's because as a portable its definitely the best hardware/power. Its a killer handheld with fun (not hardcore) titles. I'd write this in a blog but I'm either am not allowed to or am just too dumb to figure it out.
This is so true, Spot on. Completely different levels. The other systems are "adult" machines, and the Switch is a Nintendo handheld which will primarily appeal to kids, and die hard Nintendo fans who will try and sell it to everyone else as competition.
Its a portable system.. I dont think its something that should be comparable at all... As long as the 1st party is strong and it has great indies, they have nothing to worry about
"He says it's about fun over powerful specs. "
Yeah what games ? Zelda ? for the gazillion hour ?, Mario Kart ? Bomberman ?, Metroid 4 ? OMG it sure is fun to play Metroid 4..in 2020, freaking liar!, damn I hate this guy! such a liar an hypocrite, one of the reasons why Nintendo is stuck in the past!.
This is not about fun in games for them, is about creating games without putting any effort on creating them, thats why Nintendo keeps making this cheap arse gaming devices, and then this morons at Nintendo want third party developers create game for this cheap arse gaming device, is like asking a Master Chef to do some lemonade, is just offensive.
Nintendo will always know for there cartony and funny games and not for powerfull system to deliver state of the art graphics, they have fun games with colors and jumping and stars and hats
They should maybe start thinking about powerful specs...
personally until they update some kind of trophy system i'm not gonna bother with the switch. haven't exactly heard good things about it either though mario odyssey looks interesting but other than that not so interested.
"Nintendo believes in fun."
Yes because me and the other 80m+ who own an Xbox or a PS4 are not having fun.
We don't buy consoles to enjoy their games, we buy them just to look at and say "awwww look at dem graphics".
Full of shit just like most Nintendo fans who peddle out the same line, sound like potencious morons, like those blokes who drink craft beers to appear edgy, even tho deep down they don't like them but spent so long slagging off regular beer they don't want to be exposed as hypocrites.
ALL GAMERS HAVE Fun, you don't need to own a Nintendo machine to have fun.
I wonder how good Metroid Prime 4 will look. Wouldn't surprise me if it looked like an upscaled Metroid Prime 3...
I thought this article compared the specs of all three systems? Maybe I missed something. Every Nintendo console since the N64 has made me wonder what could have been with a little more horsepower. All in all, as a handheld system, the switch is quite remarkable. As a console it's a little behind the times. Lesson be learned though. Zelda, to me, looks as good and plays as well as any other games that I've been playing on my Xbox and PS4. There is a difference indeed, but there is just something about Nintendo and the games they develop.
Tempting as a 2nd console may get one for the kids when they are a bit older.