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The Xbox One X Is Literally No Threat To The PS4

The biggest problem with the Xbox One X is how Microsoft has positioned the new system as being the most powerful ever made. This is exactly the same strategy the company tried with the original Xbox and that console was destroyed by the technically far weaker PS2.

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Death9d ago

Sony has a worldwide audience Microsoft will never have. If they focused on trying to increase their audience in regions that aren't interested, what would be the point? Microsoft is focused on their core market which for them is a much better prospect. Xbox One X isn't aimed at taking anything away from Sony. It's a system for the fans they already have.

AspiringProGenji9d ago

Something like that is what many here have been saying for a while. Power alone is not gonna put MS on top, and that slight advantage the PS4 has over Xbox One was not reason why it is on top.

Eonjay9d ago

Interesting point and you nailed some good points most flat out ignore. The only wrinkle for Microsoft is that their dominance in their primary market has disappeared. Mathematically 60% of Xbox sales are in the US while only 30% are for PS4. Obviously the US is the most important region for Microsoft by far.

MagicBeanz9d ago

I would even go a step further and say its aimed at a small and specific group of fans they already have.

arijitfrens20069d ago (Edited 9d ago )

ofcoz Xbox one x is no threat to the Pro like many here said X gonna kill the Pro.. LOL! NO it wont.... Both are different and the playstation community is growing... Come 2018 the amount of 1st party games PS will get is amazing.. Almost most being system seller... Xbox gonna show HALO next year for sure and may tease Playground's new IP and they have forza horizon and hopefully another Gears game..

JackBNimble9d ago

Death
Do you really think MS doesn't care about the market share gap between them and Sony?
Don't you think MS would like to take some of that back from Sony?

If that were true then MS is in the wrong business and I am sure they would just stick with what is profitable like windows.

Wow... some of the shit you come up with is amazing.

Dragonscale9d ago

@Death, at last we agree on something. Xbox is aimed at the hardcore fans.

_-EDMIX-_9d ago

"Sony has a worldwide audience Microsoft will never have"

Sony didn't just have that day 1 with gaming.

Nintendo and Sega where JUGGERNAUTS in that area when PS1 came out. Sony got that respect world wide by marketing to many demographics.

Fighting BOTH Sega and Nintendo mean't that Sony couldn't be the kool kids but also couldn't be the wholesome values either, they had to be both. "Edgy" but also "rated E"

This worked out GREAT for them as they had all the demographics. You got GT, but you also got Crash. They did a great job with this balance and grew that brand WORLD WIDE.

MS won't have that because they are not doing those things. I don't even think they have a Japanese studio, yet cry and whine about not selling in Japan.

I'd assume you have to make Japanese games to sell to the Japanese, even to a degree folks.

MS lost in Japan because they are not looking at the bigger picture, they are trying to turn a quick buck and then cry the next gen.

Sony didn't just win world wide in 2 or 3 years, it was YEARS before they were huge world wide, but they actually had many concepts that worked for a world wide audience. MS can't win by brute force, they need to build teams in Japan as LONG TERM investments and then you'll see Japanese support.

Put it this way, why should someone buy XB FOR LIFE for Bioshock? Mass Effect? Consider those are either timed or lost exclusives. Those can sell the 360, they won't sell EVERY XB in the future. Coming out with Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey once only shows folks in Japan that MS doesn't make Japanese games...they simply "made" a Japanese game once, just like they ONCE had BIOSHOCK EXCLUSIVE.

Its a BAND AID BUD! For MS to win that support, they need a LONG TERM IP that is Japanese. Period. You know, actually work and invest in that market.

Aenea9d ago

It's called marketing, they can get those other regions interested if they actually tried to, but for some odd reason they don't...

yeahokwhatever9d ago

"Xbox One X isn't aimed at taking anything away from Sony" HAHAHAHAHAHA oh man, that's rich. Try explaining that to the board.

Skull5218d ago

It shouldn't be. XBOX is aimed at the console user who wants a premium experience to take advantage of their beautiful TV's. PlayStation is aimed at the casual user who has no use for 4K games and blu ray.

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knifefight9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I too love the article's unnecessary and pretty much incorrect use of "literally." So many people misuse that word now. It's losing its meaning -_-

MagicBeanz9d ago

That's literally the dumbest thing I've ever read.

Dragonscale9d ago

Its not misuse. Its literally true lol.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

2. in effect : virtually —used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible

seems right to me. ( it has taken on a second meaning so Merriam Webster added it in)

jrshankill9d ago

He wanted to use figuratively, not literally.

The article title makes the author look like a total idiot. Both with word choice and content.

ocelot079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I actually agree with you. As well as the word "Exclusive" that gets thrown around a lot to the point exclusive now means something completely different to what it once meant.

frostypants9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

@mkis007, sorry, they added that definition recently to REFLECT the rampant mis-use, but it's still wrong. In effect, that definition is saying that "literally" can mean "not literally". How can a word mean the opposite of itself? It totally destroys the intent of the word and makes it worthless. It would only make sense if they labeled that usage as slang.

fenome9d ago

It's actually true though, unless you believe that somehow the XoneX will sell twice as many units as the other Xbox Ones.

@jrshankill

Figuratively implies a metaphor, which this does not.

jojo3198d ago

exactly!! It's amazing how often that word is misused. "Dude! that literally blew my mind!!".

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TheColbertinator9d ago

E3 just ended. Expect 6 more months of nothing new announced.

Mr-Dude9d ago

Not that much big news coming the upcoming weeks...

But GamesCom in August, Tokyo Game Show in september, and Paris Game Week in oktober..

jrshankill9d ago

Someone literally needs to look up the definition of literally.

Another garbage clickbait article.

rainslacker9d ago

Figuratively speaking of course.

trooper_9d ago

Looks like history has a way of repeating itself. I hope for Microsoft's sake that the XBX works out for them.

StormSnooper9d ago

Looking at the comparison videos I don't think so either. And the price difference.

Christopher9d ago

Of course not, the Xbox One S is the threat to the PS4 and the Pro.

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Silly gameAr9d ago

It's funny how people aren't rushing in to approve this article like they do for other xbox articles.

kingjames188d ago

Look at your upvotes. If you think this is a Pro Xbox website your delusional. The fact is this is an opinion piece and not a very factual one.

Apocalypse Shadow9d ago

Besides the word "literally," it would be true that Xbox one x isn't a threat to PlayStation. Even having more power than Pro doesn't help.

Sony commands more than a 30 million lead over the Xbox platform. Because of that lead, Sony commands more say on partnerships with 3rd parties just as Microsoft had with Xbox 360 launching a year first over PS3. Selling a system to a small part of a smaller community won't change anything. Potential bragging rights on looks? Yes. That's about it.

Not having a large group of award winning studios like Sony is also not going to help Microsoft. If 3rd party games are also coming to the PlayStation platform at the same time or later because of timed exclusivity, then again, no advantage for Xbox one x.

Sure, we'll see the typical comparisons at digital foundry on graphics clarity and detail. Won't change much to the masses who don't watch or know about DF. DF is mostly known about from graphics whores. But the name you know titles will be on PlayStation. GT,GOW, etc are known worldwide more that state of decay, sea of thieves, crackdown, etc. It's not that those games aren't going to be fun. But those games are like naming B list actors in movies and not A list actors. And Sony's worldwide studios games always do more with less power. Even compared to PC. Xbox one x won't change that either.

Speaking of brand names and movies, Spiderman is an A list property. And the *GAME* will only be found on PlayStation. The only way Xbox one x will be playing Spiderman is on Bluray. Xbox fans might say, "well, at least Spiderman the movie will be 4K on our system over regular Bluray on PlayStation."

As a PlayStation fan, my response would be to that is
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Is that all you got
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No threat at all.
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Apocalypse Shadow9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Let me help you 343 by shortening it.

Dropping those stupid policies, dropping Kinect, releasing Kinect resources, talking about DX12,esram, the cloud, 4K ultra Bluray, releasing Xbox one s, talking about true 4K and high fidelity VR has now only resulted in a wider gap of 30+ million consoles behind.

You think a marginally more powerful console is going to somehow change anything?

Hopefully you didn't believe in all that other stuff helping Microsoft.

MegamanXXX9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

@343

LMAO Apocalypse Shadow is telling you facts

343_Guilty_Spark9d ago

Doesn't Affect my gaming. Don't care if it changes anything. I love Xbox.

Apocalypse Shadow9d ago

Not saying you shouldn't like Xbox. But actually, it does effect your gaming.

Microsoft has spent all their time doing everything else but create studios to create new IPs. They have more money than Nintendo and Sony combined that could be allocated to Xbox to have more games but choose not to. Relying on 3rd parties is not enough when 3rd parties are bringing those same games to PlayStation.

So yes, it does effect you.

LP-Eleven8d ago

You don't have to remind anyone here that you love Xbox. We know.

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OmnislashVer369d ago

MS's start was so bad this gen it basically crippled them for the rest of the gen. Scorpio is a step on the right path, but then again those new exclusives are 2-3 years away according to Phil Spencer, and by then PS5 will be here. Sad situation. Maybe better luck nex-gen? I mean that wholeheartedly if they can get their act together now.

U_R_Weirdos9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

How is scorpio a step in the right path? It's more like three steps in the wrong direction. The main problem with x1 is that they are focussing too much on features (bc, crossplay....) or in x1x's case, in power rather than using their billions into building an attractive catalogue of quality games for a wider audience. There are not that many xbox fans around so the main goal should be: cater to your loyal fans AND reach new consumers that aren't interested in what xbox as a brand has to offer. But by simply releasing a more powerful hardware they will only reach a even vastly smaller demographic within their own community.

And for all the xbox fans who say people chose their platform because of specs:

You are hyprocrites if you think that way if you not only didn't have a ps4 and later a pro, but also if ps4/pro weren't your main platform for third party games since 2013 because both of them are more powerful than x1.

Antarius7179d ago

I had a PS4 and upgraded to pro, I have an Xbox 1, not planning on getting X. Main reason for the switch was the exclusives, horizon zero dawn to b exact. I like the idea of a more powerful machine but until Xbox starts dishing out some sweet exclusives there's no reason for me to upgrade it. While the X looks like a nice piece of hardware there's no point in getting it, imo, as the games will be the same as the one with graphic enhancements. I think Microsoft should have just held off on the X and pushed out a beast of a machine for the next gen, which they will probably do anyway in a couple of years.

Prubar9d ago

@ morgenfell

I like how you made it personal by saying It's a lesson myself and MS haven't learned. I'm sorry but I hold no allegiance to any plastic box as I own all consoles from the past three generations and plan on getting XBox one X on day one. And while you were playing the PS2 like myself you were also missing out on great games like Halo, fable, Kotor 1,2, Morrowind, Crimson Skies, Mechassault 1,2, Odd world, strangers wrath, unreal championship, and so much more. PLUS games that could not run on PS2 like ninja gaiden, Doom3 and Riddick.

Sm30009d ago

Disagree, when did adding features become a bad thing? Even in XB case with their severe drought of games. Agree to disagree bc I look at those as a positive

frostypants9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I think one issue with One X is while it is powerful, it falls in a strange place from a practical perspective. I really doubt it will do much in "true 4K" that the Pro won't be able to replicate with tiling. Maybe very slightly better, but worth the price tag difference? Unlikely. And the One X isn't so much more powerful that it will be able to take a 30fps Pro game and run it at 60fps. So yeah, it's in a weird spot on the horsepower spectrum...it's more powerful, but not so much more powerful that it will be able to clear that hurdle to make an obvious practical visual difference. That's why they keep harping on the whole "TRUE 4K!!!" thing...it's not a big deal from a practical perspective, but it's about all MS can crow about. Like, yay...you can output your visuals less efficiently and get away with it. Awesome? How does that improve my experience?

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Prubar9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

What's with all this PS5 talk lately? As if Sony is going to kick start a new generation when they're totally dominating this one and opt to sell new games to a much smaller audience. I mean as of right now they have over 60 mill I can only imagine what it'll be in three years. You think they're going to ignore this massive install base. Now they're really going to start making money.

OmnislashVer369d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I'm saying that Phil said the exclusives he signed are 2-3 years away. By then nex-gen will start. Scorpio is only good for 3rd parties and their AAA exclusives are Forza 7 and Halo 7 from here on out. Sad situation that once the new AAA exclusives get here a new gen has basically started.

Furthermore, seriously? PS360 had a massive install base and they started gen 8 anyway. Also if the new consoles are backwards compatible which is highly likely, less people are going to feel ripped off. If AMD are right about 2019 being when they switch to a 7nm node, we're going to get like twice the performance for the same cost and a TON of people would pay $399 for an 8.5-10 TFLOPs console. The latest would be 2020 for PS5 as long as AMD has no delays.

UltraNova9d ago

Omni

8.5 terafl for a next gen console would be a joke considering its just a 30% increase from xb1x. Granted, we have reached the end of Murphy's law and all we are getting is diminishing returns out of the chip industry but this is no excuse for a next gen console because 8.5 terafl would be nowhere near enough for 4K 60 fps at todays ultra settings, let alone in 2020.

I say they should wait it out until they can get at least a 12 teraflops GPU (vega) and a descent cpu (custom Ryzen+ @ 7nm) at 399-499.

Nov 2020 should be the sweet spot based on AMD's roadmap.

uth119d ago

@Ultra - you meant Moore's law, not Murphy's :)

But The idea of hardware being subject to Murphy's law is true too :D

UltraNova8d ago

@uth11
Hehe nice catch friend - damn autocorrect :-(

Its like Murphy's law is build in Google's auto correct sytem, if it can screw your comment up it will screw it up! 😂😂😂 28514;

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Prubar9d ago

Sony fans are just going to have to except the fact that MS will have the technical edge for the foreseeable future.

REDGUM9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

@ Prubar..
Which is great if you have technical games to play with...... but you don't..... yet...... nonetheless...... you just dont have them.

morganfell9d ago

You mean how they had against the PS2? How did that work out? No technical edge can overcome a wall of software. That seems to be a lesson neither you not MS can learn.

CP_Company9d ago

you even saw how PS4 exclusives looks like? they are looking better then high end PC games.
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power is good.but no 60fps? Digital Foundry said that from 1+ metre you will not see the different between 4k and 4k checkerboard.

trooper_9d ago

If it doesn't have games to showcase it, then technical edge is meaningless.

JEECE9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

A: Somehow none of you Xbox fans realize that this will only apply to about 5% of the market, since there are already probably 85 million base ps4/X1s out there, and they'll continue to sell better than the upgrades.

B: This gen won't last forever. Your definition of "foreseeable" must be pretty limited.

C: How do you except a fact?

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frostypants9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Well said. I don't hate Xbox. I hate what MS has done this gen. Last gen I bought both PS3 and 360, and love them both. But MS has completely s* the bed this gen. For example, how the hell could they seemingly acknowledge that Kinect was a flop last gen, then try to force it back again at the beginning of this gen? What the hell was that? They need to get on the ball next round. I thought maybe the Scorpio/One X might be that, but that seems blatantly hopeless now with this talk about the good exclusive stuff being so far off.

subtenko9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

'exclusives' on xbox that are also on PC.... and at least half I payed attention to also coming to PS4.

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343_Guilty_Spark9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Doesn't need to be a threat just needs to be good for Xbox gamers

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gamertk4219d ago

All the disagrees crack me up. They're saying it isn't a threat but it should be, and we should be sad that it isn't, since we like Xbox. That's some next level trolling.

"I want this to matter to you so you can feel bad about not liking Sony with the rest of us!"

TKCMuzzer9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Well it sort of does. There are to many people who forget Ms and Sony are in direct competition. They are after the same customer base, at some point, shareholders and directors will want to see Ms gain market share in order to justify spending R&D all the time. Divisions within companies spending is based on reaching certain results, that may not matter to you but it is not good to be so far behind your main competitor all the time, thus goes hand in hand with reputation.
No matter what Sony and Microsoft say market share is important, sales are important, they just keep that behind closed doors, if you don't think the big wigs at Microsoft are concerned about bieng so far behind Sony your disallusioned, that's not how business works and let's not forget, this is a business.
Microsoft had good hype with the X but failed to take advantage of that hype which would have been good for the industry. Its a shame the x wasn't $100 because it would have caused a nice ripple withing the industry

WeebLord9d ago

"Disallusioned" The word you're looking for is delusional.

This is a business, but it's a complicated one. Market share isn't the only barometer for success,

Why o why9d ago

For the fans. . Spot on. . For Microsoft hell no

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