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Xbox One X is $500 - so how much will next-gen consoles cost?

Xbox One X's pricing at £449/$499 may have disappointed many users, but it's indicative of a substantial challenge facing console platform holders: the pace of technological advancement is slowing, and existing hardware components are holding their price for longer. It's a trend that shows no sign of changing and projecting forward, we do wonder - just how much will the actual next generation of consoles cost, when will they arrive and how powerful will they be?

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Nyxus59d ago

In other words, we shouldn't expect the new generation until 2020 at the earliest, and that's fine.

nitus1059d ago

I will make a prediction (polishes crystal ball) that within 8K displays will be reasonably affordable rather than for the early adopter as they are now. http://www.144hzmonitors.co... (going cheap for $5000 USD).

Personally, I would be surprised if the PS5 and the next Xbox or whatever they are going to call it will support 8K although 4K will be the norm although if there is a mid console generation refresh it should support 8K gaming.

ARESWARLORD59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

I think it's just crazy that a lot of people haven't even upgraded the 4K and they're already starting to push 8k. I'm personally still very happy with my 1080p plasma and I have no desire to upgrade anytime soon the games maxted on 1080p on my PC looks fantastic to my old eyes I grew up with an NES and CRT TV

Sam Fisher59d ago

Thank you, same here im not up for 4k, its crisp but 1080p still looks really good to me

Kakashi Hatake58d ago

4k is clear enough. Console power will never be used for higher visual fidelity if all the extra power continues to go towards pushing resolution.

thekhurg58d ago

If Microsoft has their way, the next generation of consoles will be priced $499 or higher.

Thankfully Sony will continue to push for the $399 launch because they understand from last generation what an overpriced piece of hardware will net you at launch.

psuedo58d ago

Hell I need to get glasses before I worry about anything. 1080p isnt as clear as it could be for me. If i stretch my eyes or squint its clearer.

indysurfn58d ago

Remember how 720p tv's upscaled 640p movies?
Remember how 1080p tv's upscaled 720p movies?
Remember how 4k tv's upscaled 1080p movies? (official pattern established)

I predict 8k will upscale 4k

Bobertt58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

No way are we getting 8k consoles for the next gen. 4k games are starting to take up over 100gb and seeing that sony and microsoft arent adding bigger hard drives and leaving it up to the consumer to swap it out i dont see them getting to 8k simply cause of the amount of space. 8k games will easily be 200+gb. I doubt they will have blu rays for that and will need to go to digital but most people dont have internet speeds to download multiple games at that size at any time. Maybe by the time PS6 comes out internet speeds would have improved but i doubt it. I think they will make consoles that can make bigger and better worlds at Native 4k and better VR.

badz14958d ago

I'm now a believer of 4K. I was fine with my 3D 1080p plasma as well until my kid smashed it with his toy last April and the repair cost is too expensive. I decided to buy a new one and opted for 4K. bought myself a 55" LG 600 series (not top of the line model) and holy sh!t...what a world of difference! I only have the original PS4 and I was like "how the hell does this TV make these games looks better?" when the PS4 doesn't even support 4K. I can only imagine how they will look on the Pro. I can't go back to 1080p now!

back on topic, I think in 3 years, Sony will release the PS5 and the price? $400 with 4K60fps as standard

babadivad58d ago

Dude, you are tripping. 5K is just about double the pixels of 4K, There's no fucking way that Next-Gen consoles will be targeting fucking 8K. You need 4 Titan XPs running in SLI to run The Witcher 3 at 60fps. Say no to drugs.

OmnislashVer3658d ago (Edited 58d ago )

You are nuts. 8K is 4x 4K. If 4K isn't affordable, do you think 4x 4K will be affordable? You'd be looking at a $2500+ console, $1500+ when prices drop because of the node switch to 7nm in 2019. And there would definitely, DEFINITELY be checkerboard involved. Not to mention the amount that games would go up by.
Artists would be paid 16x as much, leading to much higher game costs. Nobody is paying that much. Also, we get that tech cheap because of the APU deal they have. This thing would be a HUGE chip with watercooling. And you know how much RAM you'd need? 16x as much. GDDR6 and HBM RAM aren't even affordable yet! It just doesn't make sense. It'd be like a $2500-3500 console with $150 games.

Takwin58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

Once people have tried gaming and video on true 4K *AND* HDR, everything else looks like shiite. Anyone who says they are happy with 1080p hasn't had 4K HDR.

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Krysis58d ago

Nah but we will start getting leaks or maybe even reveals by then.

Eonjay58d ago

Reading into what he is saying about PS2 vs PS3 vs PS4 and Pro, it seems like the last big generational bump was PS2 to PS3. Now, we just get consoles that push more pixels. So, we may get a new console in 2019 but nothing really new aside from VR in terms of what the more powerful consoles can offer. And of course the reason is cost. To think that Microsoft is still losing money at 500 means we need prices to fall. In two years a 400-500 PS5 will be more powerful than Xbox One X but it still won't be a generational leap over the base PS4. Just clearer and faster.

The only thing really left is new games that take what we have and use the power differently. Maybe it's time to put the 'video' to the side and focus on the 'game'.

iDadio58d ago

Few years time you can build a console that outperforms the X for 299. Advances in technology are thick and fast and the price of premium parts bombs.

OmnislashVer3658d ago

Yeah but only if AMD updates their process by then. They were pretty slow with the last transition.

I'd say if they're released in 2019 expect $499, 2021, expect $399.

I'd prefer the 2019 launch though.

babadivad58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

@OmnislashVer36

AMD is being really aggressive with the process node shrinks now[well, again]. The process shrinks were in a weird place when X1 and PS4 launched. They stalled for a few years and really held back progress for AMD. They were usually always the first on a new process. It was a main component of them being competitive. They were caught with their pants down when the process shrinks stalled.

It was the best thing for nVidia though. They assumed that process nodes could stall, so instead of banking on a process node shrink, they decided to optimize their architecture to get the most out of the 28nm. We got Maxwell out of it. And They have been basically running with that architecture since.

Pascal is just Maxwell with a die shrink. Since Maxwell was so power efficient, when the process node finally did shrink, they were able to clock them insanely high.

IamTylerDurden158d ago

But also consider that the original xbone was $500 at launch.

Sony learned that going over $399 is a bad idea. So i'd imagine PS5 at 11tf, $399, possibly 2019 but probably 2020.

As for xbox? The X is a considerable leap from the xbone and it's still 5 months away, so i honestly do not expect a "true next gen" console from MS until 2021 or later. The X will likely get a pretty significant cycle, not necessarily 6 years, but certainly more than 3.

I'd expect new iterations on VR before any new consoles.

KionicWarlord22258d ago

Microsoft is going to release a system price $500 in 2017 with 6 teraflops a 2 teraflop difference over there competition.

In 2 years your basically saying there gonna almost double the amount of teraflops and reach $399?

Impossible. Thats just reaching.

Aenea58d ago

@kionoc

Nah, the PS5 will be 10Tflops, then you guys can say stuff like "it's only 66% more powerful than the One X!" and we retort with: it's Xbox One X + PS4 Pro in power! A whole Pro of difference! 😀

This will keep happening from now on...

OmnislashVer3658d ago (Edited 58d ago )

For 9-10 TFLOPS I'd expect $499 in 2019. $399 by 2021. I'd prefer the $499 launch though. Why not give us the option for greater graphics a bit earlier for those that have the money?

IamTylerDurden158d ago (Edited 58d ago )

11tf by 2020 Sony could do it for $399. I believe that. Microsoft released 1.3tf for $500 in 2013, i don't think they are necessarily the best line for console prices.

@ Rookie aka kionic

Your logic is bs.

Microsoft released a 1.3tf console in 2013 for $500

Three years later Sony more than TRIPLES it with PS4 Pro at 4.2tf AND for $100 cheaper.

So, why couldn't Sony less than double xboneX for $100 less 3 years later? Sony already MORE THAN TRIPLED xbone just 3 years later and did it for $100 less with the Pro already this gen. Hell, Microsoft more than quadrupled the xbone 4 years later for the same price. This gen shows us it is certainly POSSIBLE bc it already happened.

So u were saying something about reaching..?

OmnislashVer3658d ago (Edited 58d ago )

Seriously? The only reason it was $500 was because of Kinect.

Sony doubled their power in 3 years but we haven't even gotten Vega yet or a Ryzen/Polaris APU. Their last process took forever to update and PS4 wasn't top of the line when it released so it was easy to get 2x power. By time we get another node switch for 10TFLOPS for $399 it'll be 2021. That or it's $499 in 2019. Calling it.

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alb189958d ago

I will be more than happy if MS use all this power to make better 1080p games.

Angeljuice58d ago

The next consoles will have slightly more powerful graphics cards than XOX (around 8-10 TFLOPS), but will be paired with Ryzen based processors.

It will release when that package is available to be sold for $399/£349.

babadivad58d ago

Exactly.

Also, there will be a true generational leap. If developers didn't have to code for the X1 and PS4, we would see a generation leap right now if they could just focus on the Pro and X1X.

The switch is almost as powerful as an iPad, but no iPad game comes close to what's possible on the Switch, Because developers are able to focus and get everything they can out of the hardware.

Once the next gen starts, even if the new systems aren't several times more powerful than the Pro and X1X, just the fact they don't have old hardware holding them back, is going to make a world of a difference.

Next gen systems will be about 8TF, but the games will look massively better than anything the Pro and X1X could dream of.

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CyrusLemont59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

I wonder if we won't see next gen now until 2021-22 until the cost is feasible for a true next gen experience. An uptick is resolution/frame rate doesn't count so much as dynamic/reactive environments, lighting and all round higher poly mesh models on everything. I also expect BGE2 and GTA VI to possibly be titles that sell the next gen world in terms of seamless exploration and freedom.

nitus1059d ago (Edited 59d ago )

I sort of agree and disagree with what you said.

I do think the best question to ask is "What makes a great game?" and I am quite sure you will get a variety of different and quite heated replies.

Talk to someone who likes FPS's or driving games and the most would prefer higher framerate over resolution while someone who likes graphically intense but slower paced games is not put off by slower frame rates. Actually, there are games hitting the market now which try to give the player a retro gaming style complete with "chunky" graphics which I personally don't like but there are plenty of others who do.

Games which give total freedom to the player may be preferable to some but objectional to others since those people may prefer a more scripted and to the extream "on-rails" approach. Some people like an immersive story while others don't really care.

The bottom line as to what makes a great game is in the eyes and ears of the player and that should not be dictated by anyone.

Even getting down to the particular display can bring forth heated arguments although I do recommend that people who are into gaming should choose a display that has a higher refresh than 60Hz but then you also have to consider the most comfortable viewing distant for the player as well to the point that the overall benefits to say 1080p to 4K gaming is not that significant.

Yes, you can tell the difference between 1080p and 4K but if you are serious about gaming you have to take into account the latency, refresh, screen size, resolution and possibly HDR (normally HDR10 for PS4 and XB1) before making a purchase. Get it wrong and you may be in for a disappointment.

Krysis58d ago

I would be shocked if gta doesn't release this gen. If not it would mark the first time since rockstar started making games a new iteration of gta did not release in a consoles cycle.

Master of Unlocking58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

I'm almost certain a new GTA game won't come out during this gen. Or there might be a remaster of sorts, or a GTA game that uses the assets found in previous GTA games (an expanded GTA V game taking place in the whole California/San Andreas state, or better yet a good 1/3 or 1/4 of the US along the pacific ocean would do it for me), just not GTA VI in my opinion. That will probably be for the PS5/Xbox One Two w/e.

On topic, now people are starting to realize they've been had with that story of the PS5 coming out in 2018 that appeared not long ago, lol, when you wonder if Sony or MS will even be able to come up with 10tflops consoles in 2020 priced at 399$/€

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