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Phil Spencer reiterates on VR: “We’re probably a few years away from it being able to really work”

During the Giant Bomb’s E3 stream, Phil Spencer returned to talk on the topic of VR, confirming once again their enthusiasm for the technology.

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GamingIVfun2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

Of Course, because Phil says so./s N4G is becoming the Phil says website.

donthate2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

Phil Spencer does say and do a lot of #4thegamer things, so it isn't a surprise we hear from him a lot.

travestyj2496d ago

Like denying Xbox owners VR which many people are currently enjoying on PS4 and PC. I thought Phil was about providing different options to play video games. Guess that was just another lie.

jrshankill2495d ago

@travestyj

People are enjoying on PC. PS4? Resident Evil and tech demos? Bollocks.

donthate2495d ago

travestyj:

Phil Spencer is making sure that when VR is appearing on Xbox, it won't be shovelware like on other platforms. He doesn't want VR to fail, because companies are pushing sh1tty software in a bid to be first. So no lie, just your misinterpretation.

scofios2496d ago

Phil , and his fan base

If we don't have it let's tell lies about it .

Cupid_Viper_32496d ago

The guy with one the most 'punchable' face in the industry (outside of that GreebBerg dude). Spent a decent amount time downplaying both the PS4 Pro and PSVR, claiming that XBox Scorpio would offer 'True' and 'uncompromised' 4K and High-Quality VR experience...

"Oh, you didn't know? Let me clarify... By 'True 4k' we meant Checkerboarding, dynamic, etc as well"
"And by high-quality VR we only meant to downplay our competitor's offerings as a way to slow their momentum and keep our small pool of fans from dwindling even further. But hey, let's coexist! You know what would really be '4ThePlayers'? If we had access to PlayStation's monster install base of 60+ million players"....

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Silly gameAr2495d ago (Edited 2495d ago )

Jim Ryan is usually pretty quiet. It's E3 time, and that's the reason why he's speaking up now. It seems like Phil talks ALL OF THE TIME, and it's usually hyping his product, while putting the others down.

scofios2496d ago

That phil guy is starting to become the annoying cliffy b from last gen.

rainslacker2494d ago

Except Cliffy was right more often than not. He was just really bad at addressing the community and was pretty condescending by dismissing any middle ground at times. But from a industry perspective viewpoint, he was more often than not on point.

Not that cliffy didn't have his moments, but he wasn't as bad as Phil.

Silly gameAr2495d ago (Edited 2495d ago )

I think we need that Phil says section on N4G. I don't know who to talk too to get it going, but if a Phil Says section pops up, I would like full credit. I've been saying this for months.

Fazraza2495d ago

Nah N4G is just remaining the trash anything Microsoft related website, your upvotes vs downvotes are proof of that.

rainslacker2494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

I think Phil needs to leave the Twitter echo chamber. If he wasn't aware, VR is already able to really work.

Apparently he doesn't like cords.

If he just said that VR was going to continue to improve, and he was excited for that, then good on him. But this is just him once again trying to downplay what they don't have to try and minimize the appeal of the product among the consumer.

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tyasia02496d ago

“We’re probably a few years away from it being able to really work ON XBOX”

Fixed.

SmielmaN2496d ago

Exactly. Every time I let someone try PSVR they love it and don't want to stop playing.

_-EDMIX-_2496d ago

What's so funny was wasn't it the Xbox one X supposed to be the platform that could allow VR?

tyasia02496d ago

Well, I would be willing to bet they are delaying it because they have no software to back it up currently.

With the struggle it seems to be for them to even support the consoles they have it seems unlikely they are in the position to add VR to the mix.

Gazondaily2496d ago

VR hardly seems to be living up to the hype at all. I expected a fair few killer apps but it looks like its been relegated to minigames with the exception of some third party titles like RE7.

Shame really. I expected it to make some big waves.

CyrusLemont2496d ago

It's still a bit clunky, needs 4k panels to increase clarity and integrated head tracking with wireless functionality, if you can sit it in bed with two hand controllers and play comfortably, then we're there.

It's not bad at the moment, just not there yet. I bought a PSVR and thought it was great but agree with you on the mini game/Wii sports feel of the titles.

However, I do think if people want it to progress, we need to invest in it now. Luckily there's enough companies besides Microsoft doing just that. Just so happens they only want to ride the wave when it's high.

brich2332496d ago

All those PlayStation VR games shown at E3 looked trash too me.

kstuffs2496d ago

MS is doing it for PC hence they allowed OEMs to use HoloLens inside-out tracking on HMD.

bouzebbal2496d ago

Wondering what your post be like if Xbox announced VR with their beast that lost its teeth.

Gazondaily2496d ago

Keep following me and you'll see.

bouzebbal2496d ago

i'm not gonna see anything cause that didnt happen.
the excuse is it's few years away before it is worth it.. LOL

i guess you agree with this..

Gazondaily2496d ago

"i guess you agree with this.."

You told me yourself that you didn't believe in VR. But of course you've made this about me. I simply said that I expected more.

"i'm not gonna see anything"

Makes sense.

bouzebbal2496d ago

Yes I did say that, but that statement is free of any fanboy opinion unlike yours.

Gazondaily2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

How absolutely petty. You couldn't highlight a flaw in my point but threw a label at me. Yeah you're not a fanboy lol...

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Dolf0452496d ago

It's early days for the tech, but it really isn't going anywhere. I do some development work for the industry and the potential is staggering, especially with some of the hardware refinements that are on the horizon. It was always sold as a 'slow burn' to my mind, by Sony anyway. There has been no major push in terms of advertising yet but devs are still figuring out things like interface and traversal. Fallout 4 fully playable in VR doesn't get you excited? What happens when a major AAA dev finally takes the dive and puts a serious budget behind a VR experience built from the ground up? Only a matter of time until the install base grows more attractive (especially considering adoption rate). RE7 was genuinely one of the best gameplay experiences I've ever had because of VR. Sure, temper expectations but put down the salt!

Gazondaily2496d ago

I'm not writing it off by any means. I've always supported VR. It's just that I really think we all need to see more killer apps and it's been quiet on that front.

"What happens when a major AAA dev finally takes the dive and puts a serious budget behind a VR experience built from the ground up?"

THIS is what I'm waiting for. Someone to really go all in with VR in a big way.

Rude-ro2496d ago

@septic
Are you talking about Xbox or vr?
You support it and it is equal with killer apps as the Xbox one. Heck, will probably have more exclusives as well by the end of the year.

_-EDMIX-_2496d ago

@septic you think it needs more killer apps? So Playstation 4"s plethora of VR games vs XB 0?

So this is what you're worried about not enough games? But you're pretty silent that the Xbox one doesn't have any more exclusives?

Ummmm ok.

Sure

Omegasyde2496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

Septic you have to be biggest shill that even now you are downplaying technology..

Gazondaily2496d ago

What? I'm not downplaying the tech. Just the lack of killer apps on it. Did you even read my comment ?

_-EDMIX-_2496d ago

Microsoft is DENYING their Community to have something that's extremely important!!!!

This is extremely ANTI-CONSUMER!

Sad.

Why does Microsoft care about their shareholders more than their own fans?

First they get rid of exclusives and go multi-platform and then they're getting rid of VR?

Some company am I right?

rainslacker2494d ago

Fair enough if you feel that way, but that didn't stop Phil and MS from promoting X1X as a machine that could deliver compelling VR over the competition.

Should we just throw this into that ever increasing pile of back peddling and misdirects that are coming from MS right now?

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CrimsonWing692496d ago (Edited 2496d ago )

I'm glad they didn't think that way back in the day with just console games. Look it's new tech, just like the early days of gaming it will mature and evolve.

As of right now, as a PSVR owner, VR adds so much to the experience granted I've only played REZ, Batman, and RE7.

The experiences were incredible. I just don't want this treated like the Kinect. Since it's more of a visual/audio immersive experience rather than a gimmick like motion controls it has far more potential as virtually any game can use it rather than something that has to be an after thought.

Aenea2496d ago

I think Phil is close to a mental breakdown, lately he's saying the most stupidest stuff ever, it's not going well, something is getting to him, wonder what it is....

sin72792496d ago

Simple cant handle with sony!

Liqu1d2495d ago

By this time next year his transformation into Don Mattrick will be complete.

rainslacker2494d ago

Yeah. I always liked Phil, but it seems like he's just throwing everything out there and hoping it sticks, and unlike how he was a couple years ago, he doesn't seem anywhere near as diplomatic as he used to be. He seems almost petty or bitter now, all while trying to downplay the competition way too hard.

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Former Blizzard President Suggests Players Should Have Option to Tip Developers

Former Blizzard president Mike Ybarra recently suggested an interesting concept that has sparked a debate among gamers - the idea of being able to tip developers after completing a game.

LG_Fox_Brazil4d ago

If I had a 100% way to be sure that this money would go to a fund or a reserve dedicated only to the guys who develop the games, be them designers, artists, programmers and so on, I could think about it.

But we all know that this 'tip' would only end up in a publisher's CEO pocket to buy a new yacht, so, no, I ain't tipping anyone anytime soon on this industry

neutralgamer19923d ago

Exactly these companies were raising money for good causes and gamers were donation and come to find out they are keeping a good chunk of be pie

PapaBop3d ago

Yeah tip your developer, 5% proceeds go to developer, 95% to the publisher or whoever. Isn't tipping for staff not making minimum wage? How about they just pay their developers properly and like you know, give them fair bonuses? Too much to ask from Blizzard these days, Kotick saw to that and is now laughing all the way to the bank.

MrDead3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It's the t**ts at the top looking at ways to cut devs wages and get the players to tip them like waiting staff, and I'll guarantee a percentage is skimmed and kept by Activision Blizzard. This is 100% for shareholder and CEO playouts.

Popsicle3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I have to agree with this. On the surface tipping devs sounds like a great idea, but in the end it leads to pay cuts and subsidization of pay. Tips then become an expectation or the devs “can’t make a living.” Lastly, especially in the US, tip culture has gotten out of control, and it serves as an excuse not to properly pay employees. Sounds good but doesn’t end well.

drizzom2d ago

@ Popsicle

I think your right on the nose with how much tipping has become rampant. Instead of it being a relationship directly between the customer and the developer or employee, it now has a middle man ingrained in the system. DoorDash is one example. It ends up becoming a metric where the company can measure 'just how much more money you are willing to part with' before raising the price on the main product.

1Victor3d ago

Uh so they’re trying triple dip or more we buy the game that they’re already withholding/cutting content for dlc we was told that season pass would help the developers thrive we felt for it.
Now on top of all that plus their sales bonus they want tips enough is enough whatever happens to you create/built a good game get a bonus for sales milestones you care about your game and community we reward you with more sales not for doing 3/4 of a game then save the other 1/4 for dlc and passes after

raWfodog3d ago

The 'tip' is me buying your game in the first place.

S2Killinit3d ago

Very well said. If it was possible to send the money to either the developer or some organization for the betterment of gaming, sure. But we all know that will not be the case.

Rynxie2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

No, it would go to those on the top. They will still fire developers, have a bunch of microtransactions, raise prices of games and so on.

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H94d ago

So they eventually don't pay their workers and depend on our tips to pay them like the case with waiters!

Deeeeznuuuts3d ago

That kind of practice is only normal in the states, as far as I know anyway, what a backwards system

H93d ago

No it's as well in a every country that wants to amercanize

bloop3d ago

Ireland is literally the first stop across the pond and we don't have a tipping culture. The only establishments here that would expect a tip are the tourist haunts that Americans visit. Other than that, you might tip in a restaurant as a sign of gratitude for great service and waiting staff would be paid a full wage anyway.

Rebel_Scum3d ago

Tipping is not customary iin most countries dude. Get a passport lol.

Jin_Sakai4d ago

Is this a joke? How about the big wigs giving up some of their pay for their hard working developers.

MrBaskerville3d ago

Maybe the CEO could earn his money based on tips.

mastershredder4d ago

good god. The devs are not baristas dude. Total 1% ideals. Fing Chadosaurus.

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The Reason Sega Lost The 32-Bit War? The 32X, Says Yosuke Okunari

"The company was unable to focus enough on its main hope"

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ApocalypseShadow8d ago

Nope. Going back to the 32X as the reason Sega lost that generation doesn't go back far enough before the Saturn.

Sega executives need to blame themselves as to why Sega lost that generation. Not Saturn. Not 32X. Not Sega CD. Nope. Executives were the reason why. It wasn't the hardware. Those devices were either dropped early or released to soon resulting in a developer backlash the hurt the game catalog. They really shouldn't have been made at all because they should have planned their next move more carefully. It has nothing to do with the devices. Poor leadership decisions and lack of unity within the company are what happened.

Love how blame is always shifted away from what is the truth. Writing a book placing the blame on the 32X isn't the truth.

solideagle7d ago

I am pretty sure there are documentaries (Youtube) around it which highlights these points. I had Sega Mega drive and NES growing up but that's about it. I didn't even know there was a war going on between these companies but I do remember thinking why I can't play Sonic cartridge on Nintendo or Mario on Sega :D

FinalFantasyFanatic7d ago

I had the Genesis and the Saturn, also had the SNES and 64, I never got a Dreamcast for some reason, but I never saw one in the stores either.

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Talking Killer Klowns From Outer Space With The Chiodo Brothers

Chris D. Spoke with the Chiodo Brothers at PAX East about Killer Klowns From Outer Space: The Game and their Career.