Monolith confirmed at E3 2017 that Middle-earth: Shadow of War will run at native 4K resolution on Xbox One X, deemed "a crazy powerful box".
They also confirmed HDR support will be available on all compatible platforms, including PC.
The problem I have with a "crazy powerful box" is that it's meaningless if it doesn't have the exclusives I want on it, which the Xbox brand has had a problem with, especially this generation.
You're right. If it doesn't have the exclusives YOU want it its useless. But you have to remember everyone doesn't want what YOU want.
I would have thought it was obvious that my comment was a subjective opinion, so no need to be so defensive. Jesus Christ, some of you get so attached to electronic toys.
Well...it doesn't have exclusives at all. What was shown at E3 are also coming to PC.
Nothing to do with if you like it or not, not when the game is still coming to PC, ie no need to buy a XONE, or even a XONE X, its pointless to many.
"Well...it doesn't have exclusives at all. What was shown at E3 are also coming to PC."
Then I want all of you guys to buy those games on the PC and stop the lip servce. Stop supporting deals like Destiny 2 and play the best version on the PC. Chances are you guys won't, its alawys some excuse.
"Nothing to do with if you like it or not, not when the game is still coming to PC, ie no need to buy a XONE, or even a XONE X, its pointless to many."
Who is many when over 7.5 million PS4 owners bought Fallout 4? Are you really implying they bought Fallout 4 on the PS4 because it was better than the PC version? So either stick to your original story or backpeddle now, it's your call.
Yep, some people don't want exclusives at all. They love the xbox brand because of that.
"Monolith: Shadow of War Runs at Native 4K on Xbox One X, The Console Is Crazy Powerful"
The Pro version of Shadow of Mordor already hits native 4K on the Pro (its dynamic 4k), so i guess by this logic its a "crazy powerful console" too. And if its so crazy powerful then why is GOW4, Crackdown, NFS: Payback and Destiny all only 30fps? And why is AC:O dynamic & checkerboarded 4K on both Pro and 1X? The system is just slightly more powerful than the Pro. MS themselves has said that its got a 40% GPU advantage which is basically the same advantage the PS4 had over the X1 which really isnt that impressive. So they are going to look very similar, except 1X costs more, came a year later and has given up most, if not all of its exclusives to the much more powerful PC.
I love how all you ignorant fanboys act like 6TF is so impressive when 6TF is not that impressive at all in the PC world. The RX480 is 6TF yet, thats not considered some 4K beast (its just a mid-ranged card) and thats when paired to a much better CPU than the consoles have! The most impressive thing about the 1X is its bandwidth and amount of RAM, but its CPU will always be its biggest bottleneck and what holds it back from being anywhere near being a "beast".
@EDMIX in my situation Play Anywhere has been incredible valuable to me. Played GoW4 coop with my GF, me on PC, her on XB1 with only one purchase of the game. We play FH3 the same way fairly often, I wish more titles supported, but its nice to see that a few 3rd party games are.
On top of that, find me a PC that does 4k 60fps for $500.00
Just for the record, native 4K and dynamic 4K are two entirely different 4Ks haha. Native is never dynamic...this renders your whole argument pointless.
XBOX will be the best place to play
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"The Pro version of Shadow of Mordor already hits native 4K on the Pro (its dynamic 4k), so i guess by this logic its a "crazy powerful console" too."
The Pro is powerful, not crazy powerful. Fell better now?
"And if its so crazy powerful then why is GOW4, Crackdown, NFS: Payback and Destiny all only 30fps?"
Because that was the design of the developer. Why is Horizon 30fps? Another problem is any game with multiplayer is likely to have the same frame rate as it's other less powerful sibling, which is a shame.
"And why is AC:O dynamic & checkerboarded 4K on both Pro and 1X? The system is just slightly more powerful than the Pro."
Slightly? Then why is GT Sport doing checkervoard rendering, struggling to maintain a solid 60fps, no dynamic weather and less cars onscreen? We won't know the true power until we have games to see side by side, its too early right now.
"MS themselves has said that its got a 40% GPU advantage which is basically the same advantage the PS4 had over the X1 which really isnt that impressive. So they are going to look very similar, except 1X costs more, came a year later and has given up most, if not all of its exclusives to the much more powerful PC."
It's much more than just the GPU. The CPU is faster, there is 4GB more of ram, developers are able to use 9gb and on the Pro only 5.5 gb is available plus 1gb of slower ram. It also has 326gb per second of memory bandwidth. Oddly now people dont seem to care after all the years of the PS4 having more power than the Xbox One. How convenient.
"I love how all you ignorant fanboys act like 6TF is so impressive when 6TF is not that impressive at all in the PC world. The RX480 is 6TF yet, thats not considered some 4K beast (its just a mid-ranged card) and thats when paired to a much better CPU than the consoles have! The most impressive thing about the 1X is its bandwidth and amount of RAM, but its CPU will always be its biggest bottleneck and what holds it back from being anywhere near being a "beast"."
Another common mistake, comparing side by side with PC specs isn't helping your cause. Consoles run more efficiently and don't need to do other tasks like a PC does.
@Yetter "On top of that, find me a PC that does 4k 60fps for $500.00"
How about 4k/30fps? Because that seems to be what most games are going to be, not to mention absolutely doable at $500. I can easily find you one that'll run Forza at 4k/60fps, probably less than $500 in fact, if you're interested.
"Oddly now people dont seem to care after all the years of the PS4 having more power than the Xbox One. How convenient."
Not everyone bought the Ps4 just because it had more power. Microsoft screwed themselves by implementing always online, drm, closing down studios, etc. etc. etc. This is exactly why Ps4 has had such a great boost in sales for so long. It is because Sony didn't screw their fanbase over. They added a lot of exclusives to the Playstation library. Games that a lot of people like. Yes, I'm confident there are some exclusives that most despise. But most of their exclusives have been near universally positive.
The truth isn't your fantasy; that people just don't want the xbox one x because they simply have some manic villainous hate against the xbox brand.
The truth is that Microsoft has temporarily damaged the xbox brand and reputation by implementing unnecessary tactics that screw over gamers, while destroying studios, cancelling games, and not highly investing in quality games that the *masses* actually enjoy.
"Crazy powerful"...proceeds to make game at 30fps
Seriously, I hope devs should just drop this desperate PR talk. Is it powerful? Sure...6TF of power is ok I guess but crazy powerful? For its price, maybe but as a whole...far from it.
"How about 4k/30fps? Because that seems to be what most games are going to be, not to mention absolutely doable at $500. I can easily find you one that'll run Forza at 4k/60fps, probably less than $500 in fact, if you're interested."
"It doesnt have exclusives at all" Yet you cant play the games on Nintendo or PS4. And now everyone has a PC that can run it better than X. Hi, my name is Lex and Im delusional fanboy..
Last I checked all the XBox games on PC are running on another Microsoft platform. Both the PC and XB1S/XB1X are using Win 10. No different then the same game running on PSVita and PS4. If the XB1 games were running on a Mac, you would have a point, but it's not.
if they don't want exclusives why not just buy the ps4 then, it's cheaper...
the logic on here...
Lmao XD.......well said. No matter how these guys downplay, it doesn't change the facts, Xb1x will remain the best place to play all the best multiplats. Even PC world found it difficult trying to build a gaming Pc at $500 that could match xbx1x specs.
For the moment, Microsoft’s created a machine that the DIY PC crowd can’t currently match—not when you try to copy both its feature set and cost at the same time, at least. The 4K UHD Blu-Ray disc drive really throws a wrench into this build challenge, and even without it, the Xbox One X holds its own. This situation might be a first, given how often PC gamers tout benefits that console fans miss out on."
What if it has no exclusives at all?
Also, I play a lot more than just exclusives. In fact, in general I play far more multiplatform games so what I'm looking for is a good slate of variety too. Xbox is definitely bringing that this year, so it's nice. Especially if many of these games are all true 4K with 4k ready textures.
bullshit. there are plenty of reasons to have crazy power. this game. forza 7, anthem, overwatch, better multiplatform performance than any other console, better last gen performance (which is also even more games to play) and there are still exclusives coming. exclusives are a fraction of game library titles and not only exclusives can be huge blockbuster games that benefit from that performance. sony does have more exclusives than ms right now but there are tons of games that benefit from the performance. nobody just plays exclusives and if you say you do you're a liar.
your opinion is an internet fanboy catch phrase. really honestly take a long hard objective look and study all of the games released.
No exclusives coming
Except you forget... The base ps4/xb1 can only run those games at 30 fps so for parity reasons the game will be native 4k (if the devs choose to use the power) but still 30 fps. Your version of the game might be native 4k but sony fans still get the same game with minor tweeks the xb1x has for 100$ more. Woopty do.
Not this year son lol. If the ps4 has had or will have a okish year what do you call what the xb1 has had? Barren wasteland...
I just got a samsung 4k 55' qled tv. Its a bit pricey but its the shit!
The only way youll get 60 fps on anything thats not an indie low power monster is if these 3rd party games all of the sudden exclude the base consoles, or on xb1 single player exclusives... So basically not gonna happen bruh.
It's funny witnessng some pushing the same garbage over and over.
Sea of Thieves
Forza Motorsport 7
State of Decay 2
Age of Empire remake
Xbox exclusives are lined up, rather you personally care for these games is another topic, but Xbox has exclusives.
Don't forget Tacoma, Super Lucky Tale, Conan Exiles, Path of Exile, and PUBG and I know what they'll say those are timed exclusives but for the foreseeable future they are MS exclusives.
The exclusive argument is all they have left...and to 99% of gamers it's not a big deal.
Don't try and flaunt that list of exclusives. There's a reason it's considered weak, and that's because it's minuscule in comparison to the competition.
It is in fact funny witnessing some pushing garbage over and over.
So you're claiming that people just turn on their console and just stare at the main console menu? Do people not play and buy consoles for the games? Who in the world is just buying a console just for the sake of that it's a console? People buy competing consoles because of things that make those consoles unique. Examples: Brand recognition, reputation, services offered, exclusives, or exclusive deals. To disagree with that or to try and diminish the argument by saying that it's "the only argument" is to disagree with the idea of product differentiation itself.
Except at no point in my whole reply to that guy did I COMPARE quantity of exclusives between Xbox and PS. In fact, I didn't mention PS at all! I was responding to a person whom simply implied that XBOX has no exclusives...going by the list you provided, we see that I am right and Xbox does in fact have many exclusives coming.
You're showing your insecurities buddy...take it easy.
I'm calling it now!! We will have to nit pick to find the difference between these games. They will both be beautiful! Just look at horizon! If Anthem looks even close to that good on PS4 and XoneX... all this is pointless!
"The exclusive argument is all they have left...and to 99% of gamers it's not a big deal."
If that was true Xbox one would be 60 mil and not below 30 mil... Last i remember when QB was going to PC, xbox fanboys took to twitter to show how unhappy they were.. even with Play anywhere many xbox fanboys were unhappy saying now whats the point of buying the Xbox one when i can play on my PC...
Damn bro I didn't Death Stranding was coming out in 2017?
But I got you, you're about as big a dumbass as your list
Loooool why did u buy the Xbox one then? now the powerful console is worth it lmao omg this is too funny
That list is awful. Tons of those games are years out.
Its not a problem with "the xbox brand" Xbox has had great exclusives this gen. It's just a dry spell year. Sony has had one too. It happens.
Most of the Games I buy in my library are 3rd party Multiplats (Far Cry, The Witcher, Elder Scrolls, Battlefield, COD, Rainbow Six, AC, Battlefront, etc), and I already have a Pro... So yeah, X1X will be a must for me :)
9 of the top 10 best selling games on Playstation are multiplatform games, so most Sony players favorite third party games too... Its just the only thing they can use to complain about besides $100 and most people thought it would be $500 anyways based on specs.
Thats what ive been saying. Sure Exclusives are nice and all BUT they are not titles you see yourself playing 1-2 months after they release. I have a Pro myself and have only played Uncharted 4, Nioh and Horizon cause truth be told they are the only exclusive games worth playing. All else seemed kinda meh. 3rd party titles is where its at. Those sell more than any exclusive and have more staying power to boot.
Not being defensive. I'm just tired of hearing the same thing in every Xbox article from people who have no interest in the platform. I don't go to PS articles and I didn't watch Sony's conference (or any of them as a matter of fact). Why do you think that is? It's because have no interest in a Sony console. I don't care enough to let people know day in and day out that I'm not interested.
Same can be said about PS.
If you got a 4K powered PC. Or a PS4Pro and dont care about better looking games (witch would be a little strange as it's the only reason to buy a PS4Pro) then I perfectly understand.
Me I'm ditching my PC. And going all multiplatform on XBX. Exclusives and VR on PS4Pro. And switch it up a little with the Nintendo Switch... (see what I did there!) :)
i so want a switch but its so hard to find any in South Ontario thats not over 500$
I think the point of exclusives refers to the battle between Ps4 and Xbone. They are there to convince console gamers to switch or just buy the other console as well. So in a sense, XBox does have exclusives that PS4 doesn't have and vice versa. If you're a PC gamer are you really buying a PS4 or Xbox One anyway? I could be wrong.
Consoles and PCs are not competing. If they were, consoles would've lost a long time ago.
Biggest game sellers on each platform are multiplats. Please find a new argument. I don't care what does or doesn't work for you. Play games you like and let that be that.
Don't mind me. I'm only here for the comments.
No one is forcing to buy Xbox one x and it's ok to be jealous because devs praising Xbox one x
That's the dumbest comment I've ever heard. You must have loved the Wii U then if all you cared about were exclusives on a game console. I would never buy a game console just because of the exclusives. I buy a game console to play games. The XB1 did have exclusives when it launched. It still has exclusives to this day. Your comments are meaningless.
I love gaming and I'm lucky to have a high end PC PS4 pro and Xbox one S and will pre order the Xbone X. N4g is a blatant far boy site and I find some of the comments hard to read! Grow up kids and support gaming whatever platform you own, as ultimately we all should be getting a decent product from the developer no mater what platform as games are expensive.
Give it a rest. Do you and the rest of the clones ever get tired of saying the same shit that someone else said? I have officially seen or heard the word "exclusive" more than the times I've blinked in the past few days.
not everyone is bothered about exusive, I certainly am not sure it's nice but doesn't sell a console in my eyes. So long as games are coming out that I can get lost in now that's what counts more than putting the exclusive tag in a this.
Had plenty of exclusives I want to play...at least a handful before the next PS exclusive even releases. Not to mention all the 3rd party Multi plat games that will obviously be played on X1X
Regardless if others like different games, its still not meaningless as third party games will be optimized each to some degree.
They announced plenty of exclusives really. If all of them dont fit your criteria, you can always look toward the ps4 or the switch.
What I know is many people (including myself) are pumped to play MS console exclusive such as Sea of Thieves, Cupheads, Crackdown, Forza, State Of Decay, Tacoma, and PlayerUnknown's Battleground. I think there is something for everyone right there.
Wait.. so you want to buy the ultra powerful box, but dont know what to play in it? Then what why do you want it? And that is not exactly xbox's problem..
I wouldn't trust a box that isn't exclusive to you.
This is my problem If I got one it would be used mostly for Multiplats as my Pro would become my Exclusive Machine. But I look at a game like HZD and I come to the conclusion that you will not be able to tell a diffrence between the games on Pro and X1X without the help from Digital Foundry, Time will tell I just hate to get a X1X and have really nothing I care about other than Multiplats. Plus I hate the Xbox community So im in quite the predicament
if exclusives are important to you then I'm 100% sure you didn't buy PS4 for at least 2 years after launch.
It is unfortunate.
Well you still have the PS4
Phil32 Why even make that statement in an article about shadow of war being native 4k? keep on topic. with that said thank you monolith for taking time to create the best version on every console unlike bungie.
im in the same boat pal.
i like the look of xb x,loving the power it will have over my ps4pro but damn it has nothing i want to play except anthem but i could play that on my pc or ps4
Dumbest logic ever considering the VAST majority of games that are played are NOT exclusives. It also just sounds weird being as there are more games I want to play on my Xbox before the NEXT PS exclusive I want to play releases...than ALL PS exclusives combined.
You shouldn't be surprised by the hurt salty reaction you got you need to consider the fan base you're speaking to.
Do you even know what games are exclusives? Btw if you don't like their games then just don't play them.
How about it exclusively having the best version of all 3rd Party Titles? That's literally 98% of the games that come out
I'm surprised 151 people disagreed with this since it makes perfect sense and is absolutely true.
shut up you Tart