Microsoft's Xbox is overhauling its Avatar system to make all clothing gender-neutral.
Can I make a Conker avatar?
Damn it Microsoft, you shouldn't have given into this lunacy.
If someone makes this junk, I say all power to them. I think its cool that MS is actually having it as a user option as opposed to just assuming only guys will wear certain things and only girls will wear certain things.
I think its cool to not have it restricted. Look at it like this, it is the user's avatar, what good would it do for users and for MS to restrict them?
Agreed. Shame. Where's my autistic or schizophrenic or Alzheimers avatars?
Actually it would do a lot of good restricting. Do you have any idea about what goes on in the brain during adolescence? You do not mess with that. Children need to grow up normally and on their own. Obviously if you keep telling a boy that he's a girl he'll grow up thinking he's a girl. Derp.
The appropriate documented and researched treatment for gender dysphoria is to leave them alone while they continue to develop.
Well said. For anyone who believes climate change is a settled argument, so is sex. It is science. XX, XY. You have no say in it unfortunately. Live your life as you see fit but don't try and re-educate us, you're the ones who are delusional.
Uh oh, the snowflakes are coming out to show how much something that shouldn't and doesn't affect them bothers their own sexuality lol
Yeah tell that to Canada it does affect them if you don't call a snowflake their retarded pronoun your going to federal court...LOL
I love how it's become a race to see who can call the other side "snowflakes" first. There needs to be some clarification on what that word means (i.e. does it mean people who can't accept objective facts, like their own race or sex, or does it mean people who get unnecessarily bothered by the first group?).
Anyone crying over this needs to get, your crying over something you don't even need to partake in. Its an option for those who want to.
Oh it affects them you ignorant person. Your hitler mindset is problematic.
You're saying someone could go to Australia and start killing people there for instance and because it doesn't directly affect us we shouldn't do or say anything against it.
This shit isn't helping the problem. It's a mental sickness. They need to be treated appropriately and this kind of thing is the exact opposite of the recommended treatment.
Research and facts don't care about your opinions and political stance.
Kids in adolescence are the most vulnerable... If you don't think this will affect their development there is no word to describe that level of ignorance.
It's only getting crazier
Yeah I know about that law the worst thing about that law is it will only target Christians because of M-103 the real homophobes wont be affected.
Canada is insane for enabling the mentally ill this way.
That was a terrifying and depressing read.
I identify myself as a toaster - check your privilege.
Seriously what's next, suing a questionnaire because they ask YOU to ID your gender, and someone gets upset because the list doesn't have what they want to be referred as?
With Xbox, I can only see this being another target for SJW and trolls.
I'm very much ok with that law.
I see no reason why a child must be subjected to physical or mental abuse
You sir. Are a monster. Children's are developing and outside influence can negatively impact them. Who do you think controls what is taught in schools?
Daddy government can take your children away now and you're fine with that.
No longer can parents educate and teach their kids... It's up to the government. Your children belong to the government. Good job promoting that world.
Physical and mental abuse is being a boy in elementary and being told you can be a girl. That confuses the shit out of that kid. That's the real abuse. And you're part of that abuse. Or being taught by the government to masturbaste at a young age like an animal. At a young age it is awful for a kid to be exposed to that kind of thing. Completely destroys their sexuality...its akin to molestation. But I'm sure you're fine with that too.
I'm not making it up either. Parents got their kids taken away because they told their elementary school kids not to masturbate. When the school found out why they weren't following along. Goodbye kids.
@Eat- yea...I'm 99% sure no one knows what your talking about.
You sound like your 1 Fox news report away from strapping on a vest.
Its not that big of deal bud.
Somebody needs to do something about "Christians". Always sticking their noses in other peoples business. Like everyone believes in their beliefs. Here's an idiotic example of their special brand of stupid. In some US states a woman can't have a vibrator. She is not allowed to pleasure herself. That makes it more likely she doesn't have to settle for Scooter and god says she belongs to him. Besides to religious conservatives a woman doesn't have rights anyway. Except the ones a man gives her. Oh, and in some states (they may have moved into modern times recently) a woman can't refuse her husband sex. No I have a headache. And he's allowed to rape her if need be. Cause the magic book says so.
Citations please, because I call BS on everything you said.
Yet another reason for me to not want an Xbox. This is sick.
I am on team Xbox dude, don't paint us all with the same brush.
Where does the need to control other peoples lives come from. I've never understood it. Even as a very young child. This idea that what someone else does that only effects them somehow has to be controlled by you.
The color of your shirt has absolutely no effect on me. Why does a guy in a dress bother you? The idea that it does eventually leads to some form of actual stupidity. Learn to mind your business people.
Idiocy. This will and is being transmitted to children. If you have children... Then your children. You think people are isolated and non social beings? No they're very social.. What happens to one person affects another. If my brother becomes a drunkard it affects me. If my sister gets divorced it affects me. What people do affects other people. What becomes "normal" affects other people too. Don't be so single minded. We will all be affected by this kind of thing... Just like the poor Canadians now.
Affects you in what way? If your sister hits her toe does it hurt you too. The idea that society dictates things that have no physical ramifications on anyone is stupid. You want to keep your child "safe"? Then don't raise another weak sheep. Societies pick and choose so much based on nothing. In Scotland would a kilt hurt your child? On another humanoid planet maybe the men wear skirts. That hurts your child? Most of the world's issues stem from weak people incapable of thinking for themselves. Slavery was okay. Women not voting. Because cowards went along with arbitrary nonsense.
Why do normal people have to adjust to weak morons. There are tons of things I see others do but it has no immediate ramifications for me so I didn't care. I don't believe in organized religion because it should be obvious to anyone who thinks that humanity isn't capable of handling it. A group of nuts within them at some point or another decides everyone must do it our way and massacres a village or stats killing people. And the weak cowards afraid of anything different sit back in silence.
Save your protect the kids nonsense. Teach the kids to be stronger. Teach them to be tolerant of differences. You'll find that one day someone who learned different values will impose theirs on your child. Intolerance starts with words, then a bump, a push, a punch , a kick, a knife, a gun and then eventually somebody dies. And the only reason it doesn't end is there is always another child raised to be too weak to think for themselves. So good luck with that. And look out for the inevitable consequences. There are no mysterious ways, only stupidity.
The amount of mentally retarded people around the world is amazing. You are either a boy or a girl. It's not my problem you have a few screws loose in the head and don't know who you are personally. Science will always overrule fairy tale BS.
Erm science supports freedom of choice.
You don't choose your gender lmao. The world is going mad.
Science supports biology which supports male or female. Done. Science doesn't support freedom of choice actually. That's a social construct. Did slaves have freedom of choice?? No. They did not. Science did not support their freedom they had to take it... So dont bring science into something that is not related to it. Opinions are not science.
I've ran out of face palms.
why judge people?
So facts are now judgements?
No one is judging. I know what a girl is and what a boy is. He and she we know what we mean when we use these words. Let's not have someone else tell us that they can control what we can say because they think their neither. If they don't want to be referred to as their biological he or she then I'll call them alien's.
Crow at one point it was considered disgusting for women to wear pants. Now that is true for Hillary Clinton, but me and Les Grossman love them 🎶 apple bottom jeans 🎶 .
But what you feel inside your mind is something different. Now one could argue that what you feel is a mental disorder, but remember, 50 years ago, homosexuality was a parafilia, and considered a mental disorder. But today it is seen with different eyes (hopefully by most people) so only time will tell about these other things.
But where does it end? Even pedophilia rights are being pushed for now.
I think paedophilia and zoophilia shouldn't be up for debate because that is sexually assaulting a child or an animal that haven't given their approval or don't even know what is going on. They are defenseless.
For all the other stuff, I couldn't care less. It's not up to GrimReaperGamer to tell people what to think or how to feel.
It still is by many psychologists and scientists. Problem is social norm is overriding scientific and psychological findings.
No one claims that a Homosexual is a bad person or whatever. But it is a mental condition commonly affected by an event and many cases by childhood sexual abuse. There are patterns. Problem now is that if you disagree that it is normal you're viewed as intolerant and homophobic.when that's not true. Homosexuality doesn't scare anyone. Unless a man is about to be raped by a man.
I would love to see the science behind your claims. The general consensus is that homosexuality is accepted by science to not be a mental disorder. That was written off in like the 80's. Now you might have an american priest in the bible belt saying something else but that is his opinion and not scientefic fact, and frankly, scientific facts are all I care about.
If you think someone is crazy for being homosexual or like to sniff armpits then that is up to you.
I feel like an apachee attack helicopter. Where are my rockets to put on my character?/s
Todays world is crazy. Rather than looking into why are these people having mental issues, the government enable them. Just look at transgenders. Even after they had surgery to "change" their sex, they still commit scuicide. It's time to acknoledge that these are mental disorders and should be treated as such not enable these people and make them seam like heroes for some reason.
I agree with your post 100%
I'm sure I can find several mental illnesses in your personality and protest why you ain't hospitalized for treatment.
You don't have to look. I will tell you that I have anxeity and I got treatment for it. I meditate, exercise, do yoga and did everything they told me I should do. Now I've been anxiety free for a while but I keep doing things I know it will keep it in bay. But I will not go out and protest everyone to cater to my porblems and put me on a pedistal. I know that what I have is an illness and that is a huge difference. Also, did I say they should be in a hospital? No, what I said is they should be treated for these condition. As long as you are not a danger to yourself or society, you should not be in a mental institution, however there are many mental illnesses where you can be treated without being in the hospital.
Yes and this isn't one of them. Years have passed where these conditions have been treated with no success. Look at the suicide rates of LGBT population members in countries where they have been accepted and compare them to countries where they are still discriminated, if not worse. Then think of why suicide rates in these groups are high in the first place.
Also, you can't compare your anxiety to transgender/transsexual people. Your anxiety is caused by an abnormal sympathetic reaction of your nervous system, something that operates via hormones and receptors which are mechanisms that can be changed and handled. This is something way different. It's as if someone would demand you being labeled mentally ill for preferring pizza over taccos, or boobs over asses, or the mountain over the beach, or Egyptian culture over your ancestors' culture, or anything else that feels just natural to you without a specific reason why.
I understand what you are saying and you are right about many things. I know that there are places where these things aren't accepted and you can even get killed for it (Middle-East). But, look at the USA where I think it's more accepted than anywhere else in the world. People still commit suicide in the LGBT community. (Isn't it LGBTQ now?) Anyway, just because so far there was no success of finding solutions to some of these issues it doesn't mean there isn't one. It just means that we aren't advanced enough to find a solution. Look how many diseases we have cured or can cure now as opposed to a 100 years ago....better yet, 500 years ago. If you go back 500 years and tell them that you can perform an appendectomy which will save someones life, they will tell you that it's not possible. Look at the statistics for transgender people. Even after they have sex reassignment surgery, they still commit suicide. We should not discriminate against people, I agree with you there. However, we should not also put them on a pedestal either. They have these issues and they have to live with them. We all have issues we have to live with but we cannot demand the world to cater to our every whim. It's just not realistic and not just. You say that my anxiety can't be compared to someone who was born transsexual. I say, yes, yes it can. Why? Because anxiety has been proven is passed down in genes. It's a family trait and I can even see it. That's a fact. I was born with it and if things go wrong I can get really anxious with panic attacks. Have you ever had a panic attack? It's exactly like living in hell. I've experienced a lot in my life, many bad things. Huge pain.... but nothing compares to a panic attack. That is something one can keep at bay but can't get rid of. I would love it do be gone forever but it is always there. I was born with it. However, that does not mean that they should not look for a cure to get rid of it once and for all. All I'm saying is, just because these people deal with these horrible conditions, we should not encourage their fantasies and cuddle them because it does not do any good. Maybe temporarily bit it's not a solution. Just like Xanax isn't a solution for anxiety or are any type of antidepressants. This is however is just my opinion and how I see this issue.
I feel like the president of the USA.
Refer to me as Mr President. That is now my pronoun. Lol
Read Lal your posts. Good job. You've earned my respect. Suicide rates are high... But not just transgender rates... All rates across all people are high.
Unfortunately the media controls the news that the public receives so won't here of all the divorces in gay marriages or all the suicides and violence and abuse in gay couples or all the suicides after sex change that occur. It's sad. They're being told a lie. And unfortunately the majority of people are pushing them towards it. Towards their suicide eventually. Sex change doesn't fix the issue.
This world is full of uneducated feeble minded people. Doing what they are told by opportunist that will exploit them. Yet they will never educate themselves. They will never learn. Too stupid to adjust to new information. Too ignorant to even recognize the irony when someone else's ridiculous standard is used against them. Too dumb to recognize inconsequential beliefs are just used to occupy their time and minds so that opportunist can enjoy a better life. Just plan stupid.
I don't think u understand the deal here.
First of all, no need to look for a cure, people die of appendicitis. Being gay doesn't. And before you come with suicide rates, those are high only because of people like you. These groups don't want to be treated so no need to play a fake white knight wanting to 'find the cure'.
Second, no one is putting them on a pedestal. You're mad about the option to put a dress on an avatar, like seriously. I question your health and reasoning. If they would get free stuff or have any form of advantage over other users that would be putting them on a pedestal, but I don't see they do.
Also just to prove how wrong your logic is, let's assume it is a mental illness, so what exactly is wrong with putting them on a pedestal? People who beat depression and anxiety are put on pedestals in media, people with Down's syndrome and Autism are put on the pedestal, if so many other people get treated better for their illness with what logic do you want to single out only this one illness to not be?
Let's look at the first point. I just picked appendicitis randomly. I'm not trying to make a correlation between that and having a dress on a guy avatar or being LGBTQ. They don't want to be treated for these things, that's fine as well. As long as they don't bother anyone with it and don't show it in anyone's face like it's an "advantage" which they do a lot. Like they are a more advanced form of humans. I never seen people being called a hero for "beating" anxiety or depression because you can't beat that. That stays with you for the rest of your life. You will have better days/weeks/months/years...mayb e it surfaces once in your life...maybe it comes back in a year and it stays with you until you die. But it's always there. There is no beating it, just keeping it at bay. At least, for now there is no cure.
Second, EVERYONE is putting them on a pedestal and if you dare to say that you don't like this behavior you are attacked by people such as yourself because as you preach acceptance you can't accept a different opinion on this subject other than your own. The media is full of them. Showing it down or throats, such heroes they are. Because of this, a man became the woman of the year and even though he killed someone allegedly in a traffic "accident" he or she....or whatever that person is now, is still free to walk and being hailed as a hero. But as I said, you can't even mention that you find this distasteful because right away there will be a white knight attacking you, defending the "defenseless", putting them on a pedestal and fight for their honor. This is what you are doing because you just can't accept a differing opinion.
Thirdly, if it was acknowledged finally that these things are abnormal and we should do something to help these people there would be nothing wrong with putting them on a pedestal but we are putting them there for the wrong reasons and showing their lifestyle choices down on everyone else's throats touting how amazing and advanced and great these people are for no other reason than they are a man dressing up as a woman. There is that 50+ year old man dressing up as an 8year old little girl from the 1920's acting like a little girl and even found some people who adopted him. He wants to play with little girls too because he feels like they are his age. You think that there is nothing wrong with that? Is that ok? I don't think so, sorry. If he want's to dress up as a little girl, do it in his house and don't bother anyone else with that.
You know, we are not going to agree on this. So I don't think there is a point to continue our conversation. If you like, you can take the last word. Have a good one Adrian!
Running from the conversation cause you're realizing how faulty your points are?
Anxiety and depression can be beaten, just because you haven't beaten yours yet doesn't mean there is no cure. If the methods you're using aren't providing results either change the approach or your psychiatrist.
Second, no one is putting them on a pedestal. Can you show me where they are said to be a better human being. Again this is about a dress on an avatar, this is equal treatment, not putting them on a pedestal. Having LGBTQ characters on Tv/in games also isn't putting them on a pedestal, it's equal treatment. Your comparison with that guy who wants to be a little girl is also way of point. It just proves that you lack the insight into the topic to have a credible opinion.
Lastly, appart from a few I cam get along with I generally stay away from transsexuals. I find most of them to have too "loud" personalities. Which doesn't make them abnormal. "Loud" personalities also are common in people enthusiastic about anime, politics, sports etc. So I can't be putting them on a pedestal since I don't like them. But I know how to use my brain and have a fairly good understanding of science which prevents me from being ignorant, butthurt and delusional on the subject like you are.
😂😂😂 ok than guy.
So what about people who are born with both sets of genitals? Or with abnormal genitals that are somewhere inbetween? Or with chromosome-abberation syndromes? It's not just XX and XY. And that's science.
I don't think you understand the issue here. Everyone accepts that there are people like that and no one is making fun of them. But as you put it...it's abnormalities. And this minority with these abnormalities and mental illnesses want the rest of the planet to cater to their every whim and put them on a pedistal. To treat them as heroes and put them on a pedistal for some reason. To accept these as normal. Well, it's not normal. It's abnormal. These people will suffer and not because of society, but because they have a certain type of illness or abnormality. That effects them mentally and no matter how you cuddle them, they will suffer. So the most humane thing we could do is look into these problems and try to find solutions medically if possible. But what the PC SJW culture doing is counterproductive and does more damage than good for these poor people.
@An- "want the rest of the planet to cater to their every whim and put them on a pedistal."
I think they might want to be treated just the same ie equal.
I mean, I don't speak for that whole group, but neither do you. Its fair to assume they just want equality.
I don't see what the big deal is either, your feelings are hurt over someone else being able to wear a dress on their avatar? Seriously, WTF cares?
"To accept these as normal. Well, it's not normal. It's abnormal."
And? Who is really "normal"?
" the most humane thing we could do is look into these problems and try to find solutions medically if possible."
Ok but pretty sure we can do without the hate speech either. Live and let live.
Seriously not that big a deal, some of you are crying more about this being added then I think anyone did with it not being here.
Those looking to push an agenda, well single them out and reply to them, but I don't see the use of trying to generalize everyone that is like that.
In that respect, the SJW is actually you. SJW doesn't really need to just push for something to be included, its also pushing for something to be removed.....
Reading your post, you legit sound like the other side of that coin bud.
Treating them as equal would be great. But this is not the case. Their lifestyle is being showed down our throats in the media. Plus, they are getting special treatment. In Canada there is this law according to which if you don't call these people by the hundreds of pro-nouns they dreamed up, you can go to jail. How is that for equality? But I would have no problem if they did not act out, the media wouldn't show their lifestyle down our throats trying to sell it as normal. It's not...I'm sorry. But just because it's not normal, it doesn't mean we should bother them. That is not what I ever said. Yes, I cracked a joke at their expense with the Apache helicopter...so what? Feel free to crack a joke on my expense as well.
If you don't know what normal is...than what else is there to say? I just want to ask you, what is the goal of every species? Just think about that question.
I don't condone hate speech either. To be more precise, I don't like it but I support everyone freedom of speech. I would never walk up to anyone and start yelling at them because of their looks or preferences. But I do have the right to not agree with them and if the topic comes up, state my stance on the issue and be truthful rather than give a convenient PC lie.
You see, I made two comments here. No big deal either one but than people replied to me and I than did the same and it became a conversation of different points of views. Which is great. But don't take this as crying about the issue. It's just a conversation. I don't go out and protest against these people. I don't want them to die or suffer or be ridiculed but at the same time I don't want their lifestyle showed down my throat either.
I don't see how you came to the conclusion that I'm a SJW. I'm not fighting for anything. Nor for them, nor against them. I just stated my toughs on the issue because I was asked. We had a conversation with Adrian and that was it.
If I came over as someone who is a SJW than I'm sorry, I might have not made myself clear at all. I actually despise SJWs and what they stand for. But, if I can't convince you than that is just fine. You are obviously free to think of me anything you like. It will not change who I really am.
So Grim what would you say for people born with both sex organs? How about those with one but the other is partially there. It happens way more than you think. The doctors in those cases usually make a decision to cover the partially developed part or remove it. Sow it up. Funny thing is even that doesn't always work. I've seen a case where a boy had a small hole just behind his penis at birth. Doctor sowed it shut because the penis was normal sized so it had to be a boy. He always seemed a little different to everyone including feeling different himself. In middle school he hit puberty grew some hair between his legs and grew a C cup on his chest. Still had that penis though.
Again, happens more than you would believe. I thought that had to be a one in a million thing. Hundreds of millions. But is actually one in ten thousand if I remember right. And you gotta believe in a country like America where we're stupid enough to let them put chemicals in our food for profit it happens more. Remember a few years back when that really fast female track star was breaking records? Checked her out. She had all the lady parts. Birth records showed girl. Bam, x-ray showed testicles in addition to ovaries.
People should be careful about judgments. For you religious folks your books tell you that for a reason. You also have to pay attention to the science. Things like how the brain evolves in a year or so if you put in time doing something. It physically changes in very specific areas the same way for everyone that does that particular thing. Which means a person molested might take on that role if it's consistent over the years. Also probably how fetishes happen. Your mom was kinda right about you getting stuck that way but it turns out your face or your eyes aren't the issue.
*Goes back to gaming*
Was this one of the "most requested" features?
Lol... Laughed my ass off. Good one.
SJW's must've attacked
people still use these???
Microsoft bringing the exclusive!.....genders
Didnt think it was a big deal, but the comments say otherwise. Its crazy how easy it is to divide people and make them freak out.
Read up on news around the world... Youll see Why. This gender stuff is getting out of hand. And it isn't even backed by science.