It will be called WinDCe10 and can be played from dev mode.
Oh shieee. Power Stone!
I hope Sega won't take it down.
This would be cool...you know I'm not necessarily the nostalgic type, mostly want to play new stuff but BC, Game Pass and possibly this Dreamcast emulator if true are great features that increase the versatility of X1, I really like seeing the platform evolve. You know this reminds me about something I was thinking about last night...serious question: What would it take or what's stopping Microsoft from making games that have only been developed for pc run on Scorpio?, obviously depending on the game at med, high, or ultra settings? I already know they are working on a streaming option but just wondering if through the Scorpio hardware itself is possible???
Deep down I think you do
4show this would really make scorpio worth buying. I don't know if the publishers have to agree first, but if ms could make pc games run on scorpio without modifying the game itself but let's say ms only having to release an update for the scorpio which enables the game running on the machine, the publishers/ devs probably will allow because they will have a larger potential userbase without having the effort porting a game to a console. Imo having Games like quake champions as scorpio console exclusives would be big.
Didn't the nintendo one get blacklisted as well?
i still have nes ps1 snes emulators so if he does it right all will be fine...
There are some decent DC emulators on PC[not as great as PS emulators]. But this would be friggin awesome. Especially if it can stay up this time.
U_R_Weirdos, "they will have a larger potential userbase without having the effort porting a game to a console." - Exactly, I mean if Microsoft can just get pc games to work with Scorpio through some type of "magic" that requires nothing extra on the part of devs themselves that would be downright PHENOMENAL. Let's say if the Scorpio just recognizes any pc game and auto adjusts game output (res/fps) that works best on Scorpio. Like I said before they are already working on streaming pc games to X1. https://www.cnet.com/news/m... btw, I really don't even think there is any legal ramifications since pc devs are already making their games for a OPEN PLATFORM= pc, pc devs position by default is if your hardware can play it, you like the game, then please buy it. I mean they don't control how you play it, they just want their cut from software sales.
@4show If you're talking about the games they developed and potentially published but didn't develop, then there may not be much stopping them. If you're talking about any game, then they have no rights to release other people's games, but I don't think that's what you're referring to. But, there are licensing considerations when it comes to the media that is used within some games. Namely music, which is often a problem in these kinds of things. Often times, the music(or some other media in some cases), doesn't actually belong to the publisher or developer, and because of this, when that content is licensed, it is typically in the contract that it can only be released in certain places. In this case, console release my be explicitely prohibited, as that would mean the licensing cost would be more....which publishers would have to pay to eventually release on console. Sometimes that isn't possible, or the cost becomes prohibitive, or any other such nonsense that goes on with licensing. This isn't always the case of course, as some devs/pubs do indeed contract their own work which they do end up owning, but a single licensed song could become a big issue in the long term for ports. Anyhow, it would be up to the individual devs/pubs to actually take care of this. MS can promote it of course, maybe even pay for it in some cases, but beyond that, there is nothing stopping it, nor nothing making it mandatory. Actual porting is generally not that big of a deal in any case. But despite popular belief, there is a lot that goes into porting games that go beyond the actual programming of the game itself. In a broader sense, since I've seen the argument made before by others, and it is off topic from your comment, it's not like every game that runs on PC can now just run on Xbox. Licensing deals again, as well as there may be console exclusive licensing deals which prohibit it.
rainslacker, "there are licensing considerations when it comes to the media that is used within some games" -Yeah I hear you, sounds about right but still I'd sure like to see the written document to block a console, I assume, that license assumed it kisy wouldn't play on a console, PLUS I just dont see muscians being too upset, when in reality their music is already out thete, if anything tgat increases recognition, as for devs its just another chance to get PAID and therefore since really a pc game is just intended to play on any capable pc, what's the difference if Scorpio mimics a pc? It's just wishful thinking at this point but honestly I think they are headed in that direction and that would be a megaton breakthrough for Xbox>>>>if it happens somewhere down the line. Anyway you might be right, I'm just thinking out loud.
I hope Microsoft makes a deal with SEGA to use the emulator and sell SEGA games that support the emulator. That would be awesome.
hasn't sega throughout the past years already brought pretty much every game in their library to other systems?
So much time spent on that game. That and *embarrassingly* Space Channel 5. . . Save me Ulala!!
I loved Power Stone 1 & 2, so much fun ^_^
Yes, Power Stone 1 & 2 were a lot of fun. I still own those games. Also still have Shenmue, Phantasy Star Online, Seaman, Chu Chu Rockets, NFL 2K, illBleed & Ready 2 Rumble 1 & 2.
Omfg i miss power stone, champion of group fighting games
After the success of Smash Bros. it's beyond me why they haven't made a sequel yet. It has the makings of a hit party game
Power Stone, Shenmue, and Ready 2 Rumble
power stone with online play....................drolls
Will last all of 10 minutes before it's taken down
Unless MS actually announces it at E3, but I just became a very happy gamer if true, DC games rocked crazy taxi power stone 💎 Sega rally virtual cop and many Sega titles, but what if MS has just purchased Sega, that would be crazy, a top developer like them, but that wishful thinking ISN'T IT lol🤣
Hmm ... Buying company and paying for exclusivity was not something negative for Xbox's users.
IvanSF, they did with MineCraft and it's worked out well for them so I have no idea what you're referring to
no... you'll just have to use Dev Mode to use it... this is a back door for any UWP app including all the emulators
They can still block stuff through dev mode. Typically things like this are why certain features are removed, because if back doors are used, then the companies involved have to make sure that they aren't held legally culpable for promoting illegal activity, and they, as well as the company that owns the system that is being emulated, wants their interest protected. For the most part, the console makers are all on the same mind set on this, and little legal action needs to happen, as none of them want to be in that situation in the future.
@rainslacker naw at worst you'll need to compile it yourself and load it.... even then I doubt they can do anything about this also Dev Mode isn't for the feint of heart
You can still play the SnesBox emulator on the Xbox. Just search for it, you'll find an article how.
I play SnesBox on the browser. It's fantastic
MS mether other company cannot stop this emulators :-) But please support creators
Would be amazing... if it's not guaranteed to be taken down.
I doubt it will last a day
So? Follow the developer's blog and you will know the minute it goes up. Once you pay it's yours forever. Love me some NES on Xbox One and I'll be moving me some Shenmie 1 and 2 once this gets released.
Hydro Thunder and 4 Wheel Thunder time.
I wish people would work on a fully compatible Sega Saturn emulator.
Panzer dragon 🐲 SAGA anyone
uoYabause works pretty well on Nvidia Sheild TV.
I don't think Yabause is compatible with every game though. My biggest reason for wanting to emulate is for Shining The Holy Ark lol, but I'd like to experience my whole childhood collection again.
That'd be harder than the PS3. The PS3 only has to deal with being able to process certain things faster than what general purpose CPU's can't do, while the Saturn had 9 distinct processors which have to be emulated, all distinct from one another.
I bet it is. The fact that there is a working PS3 emulator that seems compatible with more games than Sega Saturn emulators are says quite a bit. I've been waiting for a fully functioning one for quite a while.
Yeah. I know there were emulators for Saturn back in the DC days, and you'd be lucky to even get it to boot the game to the saturn logo or title screen. I've since given up on emulators on PC, and became a collector and just brought the console itself. While there are some emulators which improve the graphics of the game, or offer up additional features, I'm content just playing it the way I did back in the day.
Why are they announcing this ? Just release it now the Microsoft people have itchy fingers for the delete button
Sega wont have any of that..
Sega has no say in the matter. Emulators are legal, and use entirely new code. The person who made it has full legal rights to it. As for Microsoft, if it was on the MS store then they could remove it, but it isn't. This is a dev mode program, meaning you download it on a PC, move it to a USB drive or external HDD, then install it to the Xbox One while it is running in dev mode. MS would have no technical means to detect or remove it.
i still have ps1 snes n64 and nes emulators, all you gotta do is load one drive up with emulators then go to magical places on the internet that run the emulation code, this emulator will be no different it will stay around for awhile..
Emulators are legal. Using that emulator to play licensed software is not. Guy can own it all he wants, but the second someone boots up an official dreamcast game on it, that person is breaking the law. MS, if they allow this to be used through a loop hole in dev mode, can be held legally culpable for allowing copyright infringement from both Sega, who manages that licensed software, as well as the people who actually published the games themselves. This is why emulators like this don't last long except on jailbroken or hacked consoles or PC where there is no moderation. And MS most definitely would have the technical means to detect and remove it. You think dev mode goes without any kind of monitoring. The software could get continuous updates to get around it, but MS would just block it again. Eventually, they'll plug the loop hole, and if it becomes a problem, companies are not afraid to remove features to protect their own interests.
@rainslacker: U.S first amendment grants the right of backup for all software. As long as it is a dump of your own copy which you still posess, it is legal to run.
If it says on the store,torrent away.
I still play my Dreamcast. I actually liked it better than the PS2.
PS2 was far overrated. Except from a few games, it mostly contained boring, sub-par, generic, forgettable software.
Ps2 is on my favorite console list. It felt like gaming really went to new heights with that system, despite having faulty disc readers which burned me twice
Agreed. Both the SNES and PS1 were better.
@BeOpenMinded Only twice?? Lucky dog.
DC had the best arcade conversion ever.... soul Calibur
Not me, once I got my ps2, I never played the dreamcast again. The ps2 had so many better games. I hated the bulky dreamcast controller also.. Just my opinion.
Soul caliber online play, in fact it was the only console that did, ps2 emotion engine lying BS kille
This generation reminds me of what Sony did to Sega by having all developers supporting the PS2 over the DC because DC was rumoured to be so weak and PS2 had the powerful emotions engine that games will look like toy story ( it never happened did Ken Kurtaragi your words your lies ended a console that were doing thinks the almighty Emotions Engine couldnt do, but it was too late all developers believed you and more important so did the public and abandon the DC, this is a repeat history TRYING to repeat it self, only difference MS is not as financially weak like Sega were, if MS and Sega do team up it be fun to watch.
That's nice. But 10 min. after it will be removed from store.
Time to play some Army Men, Soul Fighter and Virtual Marz
Real question. What is the possibility of seeing some sort of cheat engine or something like this? Seeing how easy to get apps on x1 store, It makes me worried that Xbox is becoming more like pc whether it's for the best......or for worse
MS store is heavly policed unlike every other open platform. Sure stuff like this makes it through every once in a while. But its all quickly removed.
The mere fact that something can make it through in the first place makes me uneasy. I mean someone will download it before it gets taken down and that can make gaming online on xbox no different than pc At the end of the day, it's MS' job to make sure something like this never happens
It'd be cool if this was officially released from XB1 but I just don't see it happening.
Unfortunately, Sega doesn't actually have the rights to do something like that, because they don't own a lot of the content which actually played on the Dreamcast console. When Sega and the publishers of Dreamcast games made their licensing deals, the agreement was that that particular release of the software was only playable on actual Dreamcast hardware. Sony got around this for several generations by including the actual prior PS hardware in the systems itself. Anyhow, Sega could make a restricted emulator similar to the way MS is doing their BC solution, where the publishers could decide if they want to release their Dreamcast games on the Windows store to play through it.
Not anymore it's not. This will be blocked well before it arrives.
Related fact: The original Xbox was initially imagined as a spiritual successor to the Dreamcast, and was supposed to be fully compatible with Dreamcast games until the plan fell through.
Sega won't let this happen. Just get a Nvidia Shield TV and emulate DC along with lots of other consoles.
One of the greatest consoles ever on one of the worst consoles ever. How ironic.
Only if Sega endorse it