The Wild Eight Dev Will Work Hard To Achieve 4K/60fps On Scorpio, 12GB RAM Is A Big Number

"The modern game industry is changing very rapidly," says Ivan Belousov, producer of The Wild Eight.

[Zero_Suit_Samus]

"The Wild Eight Dev Will Work Hard To Achieve 4K/60fps On Scorpio, 12GB RAM Is A Big Number"

A top down survival game. Hardly surprising it's possible to achieve 4K/60fps.

[Kingthrash360]

Yeah man I think the craze of thinking major games will achieve native 4k 60fps with 6tf will dissapoint many. Games like this is possible because they are not demanding....even still they are "working hard" and "won't commit" to saying they will achieve 4k 60. It's fine just to achieve 60 fps, imo the resolution matters less. But so many people are ignoring so much that the scorpio bound to dissapoint.
The PR behind the scorpio is becoming too much of a craze. I just want to know the price of it all. Will games suffer just to achieve higher resolution? What price do gamers have to pay just to get a bump in resolution? I can't wait until it's all said and done. Reality will have to kick in starting with E3.

[freshslicepizza]

@Kingthrash360
"But so many people are ignoring so much that the scorpio bound to dissapoint."

All you've done since it was announced is try and help people into thinking this will be a disappointment.

"The PR behind the scorpio is becoming too much of a craze."

Isn't that what PR is supposed to do, create hype? You on the other hand seem to want to do the opposite probably because you have issues with the company or some other personal agenda.

Scorpio is giving developers more freedom thanks to having more power to work with but you somehow want to translate this into something else.

[DigitalRaptor]

- "All you've done since it was announced is try and help people into thinking this will be a disappointment."
- "You on the other hand seem to want to do the opposite probably because you have issues with the company or some other personal agenda."

Hy-po-crite. You have such a lack of self-awareness, it's crazy.

[DaGreatOne]

@moldy coming from somebody that's been doing that with all things related to psvr, I'd figure you wouldn't have a problem with this comment.

[bluefox755]

Pretty much this. Xbox fans will see this as you trashing Xbox, but frankly I think it's a rational way to look at it. So many are talking like most games on the console will be running at 4k/60fps, and that's just not gonna happen with 6tf. You can be excited about Scorpio while simultaneously keeping your expectations realistic. All they're doing now is opening themselves up for disappointment and fanboys from the other side saying "I told ya so."

[Kingthrash360]

100% this^^^^

In no way am I denouncing the scorpio well all know it's more powerful than the pro...as it should be releasing a year later and more expensive (ideally)
But the PR is over hyping it to a level of blindness unseen in gaming.
The information is there you just need to read it.
The whole destiny2 thing is full on proof of this. People saying the pro is causing parity with the scorpio by being 30fps...but if you look at the interview he says the pros gpu wasn't the problem at all, it was the cpu...the scorpio cpu is only 9% more powerful so in reality the scorpio isn't powerful enough to run it at 60fps either. Bit it's all covered by the pr of an xbox exec saying they don't force parity between xbo and scorpio and a tweet from a xbox journalist suggesting sony paid for parity....it's all PR fake lies. Smh since when is a marketing deal effect development choices as deep as fps? It's just all hype and will end in disappointment.
It's cool to be hype but when you are blinded by it it's something else entirely.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

I think you're going to be proven wrong.

[xsta1ker]

major games not achiving native 4k 60fps will not be a disappointment because most xbox fans understand
about hardware constraints.
even great gaming pc's have constraints depending on the games thats why most pc games
have multiple graphic settings.
so if any xbox fans believe all major games will run 4k 60fps they need to do some research.
now saying that it's not as harsh as the pitcher your Tring to paint kingthrash...
sure some huge AAA open world RPG's or open world shooters won't hit 4k 60fps and thats just common sense
but a lot of major AAA games action games sports games and obviously exclusives will hit that mark
and hit that mark quit easley.

so imo the only thing xbox fans will truly find disappointing is whenever a game does not hit 4k 60fps in those
games because of the reasons i just pointed out... most sony fans will be there to criticize for no reason but to make themselves feel better about there choice of console.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

better tech is better tech. its not a craze. its the single reason we don't play on NES consoles anymore. its why nobody owns a vcr and why even dvd's are becoming obsolete. its also worth mentioning that even if not every AAA game hits 4k/60, they are still going to be hitting true 4k with solid frame rates. thats more than can be said for any console right now. i say that as an owner of the ps4 pro, the xbox one s and now as of today the nintendo switch (yeah i'll give it an honest go but so far my feelings are mixed). scorpio will be the console that delivers the superior performance of multiplatform games. thats nothing against ps4, thats just sheer specs. also keep in mind - the power isn't just about resolution or frame rates - its also about what can be done in-game. more geometry, more dynamic lighting, ray tracing, subsurface scattering, higher poly geo, etc... devs can use the power however they want. i will tell you though, 4k tv's are cheaper than ever and they aren't going away.

[xsta1ker]

also kingthrash if your going to post 9% paper sheet of just the clock speed to prove some kind of point
your tring to make.
why don't you continue with the full specs of the scorpio cpu it's ok we all no why... I'll fill in the blanks for
you like the over 60 customized points to prevent bottlenecking in the cpu or dx12 being hard coded to the gpu's
custom processers to reduce 1000ins of draw calls to just 11 and take up to 50% workload of the cpu.
just forgot those little details did ya.

[LexHazard79]

Man you guys need to go outside and sweat off that sodium.

[81BX]

What do you expect? Kingtrash has consistently trolled anything MS. What's crazy is he thinks he providing unbiased opinions at times. He can't help but hate, it's in his DNA. Oh well. Scorpio is coming , like it or not.

[omegaheat]

Kingthrash360, just admit that you don't intend to get the Scorpio. Shouldn't the same concerns you are now having about the Scorpio be the same concerns about the PS4 Pro? Oh wait, it's Microsoft that you have a problem with. Moving on.

[4Sh0w]

kingthrash,

Nah, no disappointment because Xbox fans aren't expecting every game to be 4K60fps. Nope, just a more powerful console with better graphics and performance= the truth is you seem to be very bothered with any good news for Scorpio.

[Soc5]

Exactly! Why so much fuss over 4K? Most people are more interested in enhanced graphical effects than a resolution bump that uses half of your horsepower

[TheCommentator]

The concept is simple, if it's at least 900p/60 on XB1 it will be 4k/60 on Scorpio. If it's only 30fps on XB1, it'll be 30fps on Scorpio. Who honestly expects that the system will push 8x more pixels with the specs it has anyways? That notion is absurd.

IMO, people who think every Scorpio game should be 4K/60 are just delusional Sony trolls setting unrealistic goals... so they can say, "I told you it wouldn't be 4K/60 for everything!"

[donthate]

I think a lot of people will be disappointed indeed. Specifically, the fanboys of any platform, but Xbox. Scorpio is a monster!

[gangsta_red]

@Kingthrash

"But the PR is over hyping it to a level of blindness unseen in gaming."

Here's the issue, where is the PR that is over hyping this? Especially when we still have little to know about Scorpio? Many of you confuse or pretend that general excitement is some type of "overhyping" or "PR".

This is why many have disagreed with you because you're making up or over exaggerating what many fans are expecting for the Scorpio. Many on this site have said and pointed out and even replied to you in the past that they recognize that not all devs will have their games in native 4k, MS has specifically said it is up to the developer.

Many here are creating an artificial crisis then I guarantee that when a game for Scorpio comes out that isn't 4k we'll folks on here saying "See, see, I told you all, but Xbox fans didn't want to believe me!"

[Neonridr]

then the Pro should have no problems achieving that then too right? right?

[DaGreatOne]

To be fair, nearly every game that has achieved this has been downplayed in some shape or form by fanboys.

[WeAreLegion]

Right, actually. It shouldn't be too hard on the Pro.

[Mulando]

The pro is more or less a doubled PS4. The CPU is faster but not much.
More than doubled GPU, but it has not the bandwidth or the CPU to just get the double framerate if the PS4 reaches stable 30.
Currently it is hard to achieve 4k res with higher details on PS4 pro. One limiting factor is the RAM. Sony only upped it by 0.5 GB for games, that's not much if you want textures with higher resolution in the memory.
With scorpio at least the memory shouldn't be the problem, as games have at least 3 GB more. The CPU on the other hand ...well it is just a bit better than the PS4 Pros cpu. The cpu of the xb1 is a little bit better than the cpu of the ps4, but it didn't help the xb1 so far, so this difference shouldn't matter for scorpio.

problem with doubled framerate is, if scorpio/ps4 pro can reach 60 fps and the basegame is 30 fps (on base xb1/ps4) the developer than has left some cpu power unused. If they reach 45-50 fps with base consoles, you want 30fps because of the vsync issues. So I don't see the benefit of the cpu upclock outside of more stable framerates and to ensure the GPU is not underchallenged.

But the upclock of the CPU may make sense in future, when we get "scorpio 2" in a few years.

[Bigpappy]

True, but they are only focused on Scorpio. Looks like Many developers would like their games running on Scorpio at high fidelity and refresh rates.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

They wont be the last developer to achieve 4k/60. I think that target will be surprisingly common given how well optimized the Scorpio is.

[Aenea]

Indeed, am sure many other Indie devs will be able to achieve it as well!

[donthate]

@Aenea

Not only indie devs, but AAA devs too! Can't wait for the monster!

[AmUnRa]

Yeah, i bet this game wil run 4k 60fps on the PS4 Pro.

[Relientk77]

I've never even heard of The Wild Eight

[Liqu1d]

That's gaming bolt for ya.

[frostypants]

And the memory capacity has little to do with framerate anyway.

But you know. GamingBolt. Dumbest site around here.

[Brohan]

You'd be surprised how little it takes to make a FPS (First person shooter) Compared to a game like a RTS or a 3rd person game.

[UCForce]

We'll see. Good luck.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

We'll sure won't we?

[PrinceOfAnger]

What about ps4 pro ver ?

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Checkboardi 30

[Aenea]

LOL

You any idea what the power usage difference is for 4k@60fps and checkerboard rendered 4k@30fps?

Checkerboard rendering a resolution takes half of the power of rendering it natively.
Rendering 30fps instead of 60 fps takes half of the power.

Doing both means a factor 4 difference! Scorpio is more powerful than the Pro, but not 400%, it's only 140-150%....

And please don't gimme that GPU is not the only thing important yadayada, a renderer that renders twice the amount of pixels needs twice the amount of power, a renderer that does double the framerate needs twice the amount of power as well, nothing to do with CPU, RAM, memory bandwidth or anything else...

[PFFT]

Chinese Checkerboard at 30fps incoming for the Pro!

[donthate]

@Aenea:

So 4k@60fps checkerboard then.

[AspiringProGenji]

Who?

[stuna1]

If this game is released on the base models of PS4 and Xbox 1 and are unable to achieve 60 fps, expect PS4 Pro and Scorpio not to achieve 60 fps unless a multiplayer is not involved! The second either system does otherwise it'll immediately go against what they being marketed as!

I expect to see single player games doing 1080p/60 fps on base model consoles that translate to 4K/30 to 60 fps on Scorpio and Pro due to the fact that there's no competitive elements are involved! Specifically a multiplayer.

[slate91]

https://www.gamespot.com/fo...

[stuna1]

So in other words it starts? How then is it under the Xbox umbrella if it's not even trying to accommodate the Xbox 1 and Xbox S fanbase??

If there's no parity within its own ecosystem how does that not constitute it as not being a next gen console? Xbox fans can't have it both ways!It either is or it isn't! It's enough that Xbox 1 and Xbox S won't have access to VR, 4K resolutions!? Now you're saying Scorpio will have higher frame rates in multiplayer games as well!? All I can say is good luck with that Microsoft! Hopefully the general public doesn't hand them their ass on a platter like They've done the past 3 years ++

Also if true it's definitely sad seeing the Xbox fanbase falling for the same hook line and sinker.

[4Sh0w]

slate91

Well said. Now there's alot of fake concern for Xbox One owners. It's irrational to think X1 owners should be upset about Scorpio, X1 still plays all the same games and this unfair advantage idea is mostly overdramatic grandstanding, pc gamers have dealt with this for awhile, never heard any huge issues.

[Aenea]

Haha, yeah, a marketing deal imposing parity, of course it can't have anything to do with limitations of the hardware!

Damage control is massive and will only get worse, hilarious!

[slate91]

The parity has always been: No gamer left behind. Any game compatible with scorpio will run with the entire xbox family (unless of course VR).
This doesnt change anything.
If there were no Scorpio, Xbox One would still run destiny 2 at 30fps.
MS is selling the Scorpio for a hardcore fanbase who are enthusiasts for power and getting the best performance. If MS had a parity clause stating that scorpio can perform better than the vanilla xbox one, then that would defeat the whole purpose of upgrading to their premium console.

Which makes me question why sony would even call the Playstation 4 Pro a "pro" if it has to be equal to the vanilla.

Save the me "unfair advantage" for competitive online.

And the ps4 vanilla doesnt have access to 4k resolutions either...

No one was saying that when console players could cross-play with PC whether it was from the xbox or ps camp.
Now all of the sudden its a "concern".

Nah.

[XXanderXX]

Day one buy with that kind of enthusiasm for achieving such .

[andrewsquall]

The developer of the Mighty Nine made such bold claims too. You would have been stung back then if that was your attitude to a few empty claims.

[XXanderXX]

it's not what they said but what they are doing now that counts.

[Aenea]

"more about cost & space .
Plus they all know PC gaming is the better of the 3 ." --XXanderXX in a PS4 article

Just buy a PC it's the better option!

[XXanderXX]

Have one capable of running the mid range games nothing mind blowing and for a country who has gamed for almost 2 decades on PC they are truly better off on PC than the console crap.

[Aenea]

"they are truly better off on PC than the console crap"

Then you should be better off on PC as well, don't you think?

[XXanderXX]

Not as long that theirs an American Company in the Mix , I will be around to continue my undivided support for all products , 1st ,2nd party studio games with the occasional 3rd party that brings a game to the platform . So am good as I am .

[bluefox755]

The game isn't that demanding, so it's certainly possible. Though you have to also consider, it's an indie dev, so even though the game looks less demanding to us, it may be a lot of work for them depending on their resources.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Do you have bench marks?

[bluefox755]

What was it about my comment that made you think I have benchmarks? Not even sure why you asked me this question...

[LexHazard79]

@blue,

"The game isn't that demanding" the part about your comment that made me think you have benchmarks. Lol...

[Maxor]

Speaking of which. Why isn't Tell Tale games 4K 60 FPS on the Pro?

[343_Guilty_Spark]

The SDF will tell you it's "not demanding" and the developers are poor coders.

[Aenea]

And is it going to be 4k@60fps on Scorpio?

If it's not am sure the Xbox fanatics will scream "Sony parity deal!"....

[Liqu1d]

Have you not seen how TellTale games perform on the base hardware?

[sorane]

The Pro isn't powerful enough for it. Pretty easy question to answer.

[andrewsquall]

GDDR5 has always been a big number of bandwidth this gen. We have already seen this with a lot of stunning PS4 exclusives, that is the only place to get this benefit with this architecture exclusively............ and there are still more stunning games on the way. :)

[glenn1979]

I think down the line the will achieve 4K and 60fps on Scorpio and Ps4 pro

[glenn1979]

But directX doen't help? On the scorpio to achieve 4K 60fps?

[kevnb]

$$$ marketing

[DrumBeat]

I don't expect this to hit 60 on the Scorpio. I know, I know, the Scorpio's CPU is uber-custom and all that, but I don't expect third party Bungie/Activision to go through all that extra trouble to utilize the uniqueness of the Scorpio CPU. Also, it's still a weak CPU, generally. I think people are setting themselves up for a hard fall.

Although Scorpio has a lot more under the hood, I see Native 4K/30fps for many graphically intensive games. Resolution costs a lot less than FPS. Yes, Scorpio will have the superior versions of games, but this 'everything is gonna be uncompromised native 4K and 60fps' is a silly pipe dream.

[zerocarnage]

devs could say they achieve the above and still Sony fanboyz would say it's a lie, the truth could hit fanboys of either side in the face and they'd be like that's false cus it's better than what got produced on my machine.

Let's face it at e3 there's going to be a big disappointment and it's not towards Scorpio, it's towards all the idiots who keep trying to hate on the scorpio.

I mean I chose xb1 for reason, because I knew the direction they were going, wanting to bring pc gaming closer to console by bringing those games to Xbox, that was just one reason.

But despite my reasons and my choice of console, I deeply respect the other platform devs out there. I've been privileged to own most of the consoles and had chance to play a hell of alot of games that the newer generations just have not. I guess that is why I'm humbled and not hateful towards developers, I enjoy the hardworking that is done in this industry and my only regret is that I was never involved with making games myself.

[Aenea]

Like Xbox fanboys claimed the games being native 4k on the Pro don't count 'cos they are Indies, this game won't count either then I suppose??????

[Condemnedman]

Just grow up and ignore the comments man it's only words

[nondescriptcitizen]

Minesweeper HD 3D VR for me please

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

He should work hard to achieve people actually knowing his game in the first place.

[Mr_Luke]

Wait, wasn't it a game that doesn't need a lot of power to get 4k/60fps? No super graphics, no particular effects, etc.
Then why "will work hard to achieve on Scorpio"? With all that power i thought it was something easy (over all for a game like that).

[Says you]

As powerful as the XBox Scorpio is no way in hell will it be able to do
4k native at 60 fps depending how many polygons an visuals and not to mention
the action an whats happening on the screen at one time depending on the game
doesn't matter if Microsoft made the upgraded version of XBox One from the very
beginning it's pretty obvious six teraflops is not enough they should've went with nine

The CPU is no good neither it's still just going to have a bottleneck like it's competitor
you're kidding yourself if you think all games on XBox Scorpio is going to run 4k at 60 fps
next gen yes this current gen no.

[GNCFLYER]

Oh Jesus. How long has pro been out? When is Scorpio getting released?

MS is so reactionary in the gaming business. Hey let's wait until we know the final specs of a pro and then design Scorpio, promising people it's been a thing the while time. Well get the power advantage back and sell 60 million of them.

PS5 will come around and stomp it.

[LordJamar]

should not be hard at all to get that game 4k 60fps lol no offense of course i think its a cool game