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Looking Back at Uncharted 4 – Things That Sucked

"Before you to tear me apart in the comments, I want to throw out there that I absolutely loved Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End. It was my favorite PS4 game up until I played Horizon: Zero Dawn. Somehow, Naughty Dog created another masterpiece, even without Amy Hennig (Uncharted 1-3 writer/director) at the helm. However, Uncharted 4 made some odd decisions when it came to the gameplay in the action-adventure title. While the game did add some awesome features like roping and sliding, Naughty Dog scrapped some older mechanics that would’ve only made for a greater experience." -- PlayStation Enthusiast

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AspiringProGenji35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Didn't have a problem with the game myself. Let's see how ND takes the criticism and Lost Legacy improves even better

brettnll35d ago

I think Lost Legacy is going to bring something fresh to the table. As usual with ND games! :)

Deep-throat34d ago

@brettnll

Something fresh like...? What was fresh in Uncharted 4?

They are creatively bankrupt. There was nothing original in any of the Uncharted series.

Bigpappy34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

I didn't have a problem is not a criticism. That is what I always hear when it comes to PS gamers and ND. So I just assume that all the games are perfect and can not be improved upon.

Last_Boss34d ago

Uncharted 3 had more problems tho.

EatCrow34d ago

That's usually what happens with anything that has a passionate following.
I had several problems with the game. The brother was a bore and based on previous games created some plot holes that I just couldn't ignore. Infinite enemy nades made the hardest difficulty a freaking nightmare. Also took out some realism. And lastly the climbing. I normally don't have a problem with uncharted traversal experience but man there was a bit too damn much of it here.

And personally my favorite part of the game is when Nathan was finally accompanied by Elena. Their interaction is the best part of the game. The dialogue was amazing too.

UCForce34d ago

@Last_Boss I criticize UC 3 a lot even the game was great but it was reuse of UC 2. A lot of UC community said UC 3 was the weakest of the series.

AspiringProGenji34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

More like that is what YOU want to hear. Just because you don't see "PS fans" talking about issues doesn't meant they didn't have any. I meant others' criticisms, not mine since like I said I didn't have any issues, if not any big issue to ruin my experience at least

I rather actually play and enjoy the game rather than dwelling into minor issues and go to the ND forums to share my thoughts, which is what I did with the MP which was my only gripe. I learned not to waste my time here when it comes to big games like Uncharted who brings the worse of people. Too many ingenuine people trying to make a big deal out of nothing and force their opinion upon others.

Last_Boss34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

@UCForce

What killed U3 was the bad A.I, which was a small problem I had with Last of Us. Plus there was a few things in the middle of my the game that didn't add up. Uncharted 4 had a really well rounded pace.

Z50134d ago

"I just assume"

That sounds personal.

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BlakHavoc35d ago

I hated the rope mechanic and they forced you to do the slide thing over and over again (although it was fun at times). Other than that the game was exceptional, their biggest mistake imo was overexposing the game pre-release. They should have never shown off the Sam pursuit set piece, it was easily the most impressive set piece in the entire game.

brettnll35d ago

I agree I think they showed too much of it before it released.

Forn34d ago

Really? I thought the Bell Tower scene was incredible, as well as the action leading up to fighting Nadine, and also the Pirate Ship section at the end.

BlakHavoc34d ago

They were all great, i just think they shouldnt have spoiled the car chase scene

EatCrow34d ago

Agree about the set piece... It is the best set in the entire game...and they had spoiled it.

deafdani34d ago

Yeah. What makes it worse is that U4 didn't have that many epic set pieces when compared to U2 and U3. So they shouldn't have spoilt the best action set of the whole game, seeing how it already had so few compared to past entries.

rainslacker33d ago

They didn't even show half of that entire scene. How was it ruined? They showed the car chase, and then they ended before they even got to the meat of the set piece that takes place after the bridge.

@deafdani

The set pieces in UC4 were less exaggerated than they were in the previous games, but they were more plentiful, and more playable than the prior games. The reason most people miss them is because they don't realize they were set pieces. The bell tower is a prime example.

deafdani33d ago

@rainslacker

Nope, U4 factually had less setpieces than U2 and U3. I know this because I played the trilogy again just before U4 (and I'd already played it several times), then played U4 a second time again.

They're definitely even less frequent.

The bell tower sequence was superb, and I didn't forget about that.

Also, Sony did show up the whole sequence on another show after the first showing, right up to the car accident, Nate killing the guys from inside, then leaving with Sam on the bike, etc. They showed all of it.

DaGR8JIBRALTAR34d ago

I agree, no other set pieces really surpassed that one. Still my favorite game so far this gen.

Last_Boss34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

I was blown away as you get into Libertalia and it turns into what the lore explains in game. I truly hope this series has more somehow. In a class of it's own. The Madagascar area was incredibly beautiful.

BlakHavoc34d ago

By far the island chapters we're some of the best I've ever experienced. Like u said the lore and environmental storytelling were phenomenal. They nailed the sense of adventure in those chapters.

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UCForce35d ago

Ah, I see. Some those gameplay elements have changed, but I found Uncharted 4 feel much smoother than previous one. For example, the buddy system is extremely impressive you can do duel melee with your buddy and the grappling hook is just so goddamn satisfying.

Razzer35d ago

Minor gripes, but still valid. I never really got the stealth down. Not a perfect game, but still damn good.

-Foxtrot34d ago

Too much Sam while characters like Elena and Sully who should have been front and centre for the last ever game took a back seat

Small plot holes created by Sam like the scene with Marlowe in U3 where he was never mentioned and the fact they bring the rope mechanic in as a thing these two brothers used to use all the time YET Nate never used once in any game before it. Even with Tenzin during Uncharted 2s Ice Cavern chapter where he uses it there's no mention of it. For a story based game this does matter, you can't try and glide over it but ND are known for their story telling it's a silly thing to forget about.

More slower parts then past games which didn't fit Uncharteds tone, it's not the Last of Us guys

Multiplayer was another step back. Least with the more generic multiplayer changes in Uncharted 3 it still felt Uncharted like

Overall for me it didn't feel as Uncharted like as it should have been and didn't feel like the last game EXCEPT for the epilogue

My opinion...I know people on here think Uncharted 4 is perfect but it's not. I'm sorry.

UCForce34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

For you, I understand. But Uncharted 4 is still feel like Uncharted to me with more grounded and personal. Some people like you don't like the change which I fine by that.

And Uncharted 3 MP was way more chaotic and unbalanced than UC 4 MP because UC 3 MP has sprint button and one hit melee on the back and freaking pick up OP weapon.

-Foxtrot34d ago

"to me with more grounded and personal."

But that's not Uncharted. What if the Last of Us became more camp and comedy like similar to Uncharted? Wouldn't work would it

" Uncharted 3 MP was way more chaotic and unbalanced"

LOL...more chaotic then like 3-4 hunters and brutes running around with multiple Mystics going off where it becomes more about what gimmick you've unlocked

Sure

vickers50034d ago

I agree with you. Uncharted 4 felt like a tacked on entry to an otherwise great franchise in my opinion.

UCForce34d ago

I'm disagree with you about the gameplay. Sure, the game has some problems, but they do improve a lot in previous game. The AI in UC4 are way smarter including friendly AI, stealth have more options for player.

Prince-Ali34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

@foxtrot.... I can guarentee im a bigger Uncharted fan than you loool...

some of the things you have said i and no one else should argue with because it's your opinion... but certain things you say are just wrong... In terms of commenting on Uncharted's tone, thats simply wrong and those scenes dont impact what Uncharted is, infact it enhances is.

In terms of the plot holes like the rope swing.. yeah those are true but they're such small remedial plot points that it's not even a big deal... The Marlowe situation loves being brought up but who's to even say what was in that documentation.. i mean did it even tell us the specifics...?

In terms of the characters involved... People need to realise that this game is NATE'S last hoorah... NOT Nate and friends last hoorah, so whatever way ND decided to take this needed to demonstrate the EVOLUTION of Nate not just appease fans with forced inclusions of fan favourites. this is all about Nate and in this respect this game does it fantastically...

I actually did an entire essay on the evolution of Uncharted as a series not only from a technical place but more importantly a story and character progression place lool.. Uncharted is HANDS DOWN MY FAVOURITE GAME FRANCHISE OF ALLLLL TIME!! loool

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FYI this is NOT me saying you aren't entitled to your opinion and this is NOT me saying Uncharted 4 is a perfect game thay doesn't deserve any criticism.

-Foxtrot34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

Why start with "I'm a bigger fan then you"...what does that prove exactly? No I'm curious because straight off the bat what it seems like you are saying is "I'm a bigger fan then you, what I'm about to say is worth more then your opinion".

The game felt like it was too influenced by the Last of Us, from the nit picky things like the games menu (no Nate 4.0 and lay out like the others) to the slow, walking parts like full on chapters (the flash backs) and the talking/walking segments. Yes past Uncharted games have featured them but this was too much. Even the cinematic action set pierces were missing from this. Where was Uncharted 4s Train/Boat/Plane moment or the big reveal/twist at the end...oh so all the pirates became paranoid and basically started to distrust each other until one of them were cunning enough to pull the rug right out from all of them...like what you'd expect from a pirate basically. Not saying it had to include a supernatural twist but I'm sure there's something else they could have done. It just felt more grounded and lacked that Uncharted charm...mostly because once again Elena was in the back seat of the adventure moaning about Nates adventures and Sully was tossed aside...they could have easily came up with a story to bring these characters into the fold willingly.

"In terms of the plot holes like the rope swing.. yeah those are true but they're such small remedial plot points that it's not even a big deal"

See...stop that. Like I said Uncharted has ALWAYS been known for it's great story telling, none of the previous games, not even the prequel PSV game had those problems but this game did...and it's the last ever one. If you read something back and see a plot point causes a plot point big or small you don't ignore it. The fact Nate acts like he always has used ropes like it's a natural thing he's continued to use even after Sam is silly since he hasn't, you're telling me they couldn't just have it so an older Sam brings some ropes along and tells Nate to use them as it makes things more easier or something. Then there's "SURPRISE big bro it's me Sam who you and nobody else has never once mentioned is here"...why couldn't they just have it someone he grew close to in the St Francis Boys home who he TREAT LIKE a brother? Would have glided over a few things more easily

" NOT Nate and friends last hoorah "

Except it is because if ND said Uncharted 2/3/4 was not going to feature Elena or Sully there would be an uproar because these characters make Uncharted, look how much people was disappointment that Uncharted 3 had little Chloe or Uncharted 4 didn't feature her at all. Yeah Nates the main character and it's his last adventure but it's still the franchises last adventure. Would you do a finale of a long successful TV series without some main characters or reduce them to cameos/guest stars in favour of a character you've literally just introduced that season? No you wouldn't. Imagine the last Harry Potter films without Ron or Hermione even if the films are basically Harry's story...it wouldn't work as they are part of the main character.

JBaby34334d ago

I agree with everything you've been saying Foxtrot. UC4 is a fine game but I didn't enjoy it as much as the other iterations. I've had trouble figuring out why but you hit on a lot of things that didn't resonate with me. Sam definitely bothered me the most. On a technical level it is incredible but other elements weren't to my liking.

Last_Boss34d ago

The story IS about Nate & Sam,and that's why Chloe & Cutter weren't shoe horned in. The game is not perfect, but it's ND choice to incorporate these elements. It is what it is.

BlakHavoc34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

Geez u seriously won't get over the fact that Elena and Sully weren't as frequent in the game as Sam. Even though u got 4 previous games with a bunch of Elena and Sully, there were even games that had nothing but Drake and Elena, or Drake and Sully. I agree that the rope mechanic was a little silly but just cause it wasn't in the first 4 means it shouldn't have been in the game at all? Sounds to me like all u wanted were remasters of the first 4 games since u wanted more of the same. It's not a perfect game at all, but it definitely deserves more credit than you're willing to give. I'm willing to bet anything that you'll be mainly pessimistic once TLOUp2 comes out...

-Foxtrot34d ago

I'm sure there's a ton of shit in games you haven't got over so don't start

BlakHavoc34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

@Foxtrot
How could U be sure when u kno nothing about me...

I was a little disappointed in UC4 as well as I didn't like it as much as 2 or 3, but it's still a good game imo. I hated the rope mechanic, for some reason I hated Elena during my first playthrough, and I also hated that there wasn't that memorable set piece the series is known for. So I walked away from the game a little bummed, but you know what, I got over it lol. I'm not on every UC4 article repeating how disappointing it was that Sam was more frequent then Sully and Elena....

UCForce34d ago

About sidekick, they are OP for sure, but not likely unless you know how to use them. I'm not saying you suck at it, but you don't use your full potential on them. They are not gimmicks. So no, these sidekick and items are very useful in every situations. Again, you don't use your full potential on them. About Uncharted 4 story, it's about Nathan Drake and his personal life, he didn't want involve any shenanigans. Nate want adventure without consequences because he faced those things in previous games. All he did was all illegal treasure hunting and almost got his family (Elena,Sully and Sam) killed because of his risk. So at the end of the game, he can now do proper treasure hunting without consequence. He earned that. So please, let him have one.

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