Valve has established itself as the dominate force and distribution method for PC gaming, but is this good for the PC game industry, or for gamers themselves?
Helping and it's not close
What's with all these articles about valve and steam today? Did I miss something important?
Was wondering the same thing....
Someone made one article about it and then all these other vultures saw the clickbait potential of it and jumped on the occasion
Steam has been a saviour for PC gaming. This isn't even debatable
Yes. It is a push by people that want Valve's business. So the first thing you do is pay astroturfers to sew a seed - in this case it was Polygon. Then you get unwitting help from moronic sites that want to jump into the fray in order to get a click. They do not see nor do they care that they are being used.
It is articles like these that make me miss the ability to downvote some idiot website.
Polygon strikes again, and there's a good chance it's a company we're familiar with if it's Polygon
seriously, steam plays major role in decreasing piracy and the blooming of indie scene, it has some flaws true, but everything that exist in this world do. If anything these turd websites making these articles is the one hurting the game industry.
Steam has been one of the saviors of PC gaming. They have received and will continue to get plenty of my business.
And yes, Polygon and similar sites are the succubi, the leeches of the game industry.
Valve can suck it. They no longer create games and only sit on their ass releasing skins for their games
Their contribution with maintaining Steam is infinitely more important than them making another game
Well, Valve could also have a special team for handling the online service and then have a special game development staff for making games. food for thought.
Maybe both, they do have a monopoly which is never good
If they have a monopoly it is because other companies were incompetent and were only interested in a single publisher's monopoly. People that do not work in the gaming industry have no idea what a sweet deal Valve offers for Teams to test and publish their games.
What monopoly? Origin,uplay,amazon,gog,greenm angaming,retailers and Win10 all keep the market competitive and vibrant.
Value holds the overwhelming majority of the market and you know it. Steam can and does basically just ignore it's competitors because it's so far ahead it has no reason to pay attention. The only one close enough to even see Steam (way off on the horizon) is EA, and that's mostly because everything on Orgin is exclusive to Orgin so you don't have a choice.
Do you know what a monopoly is? Steam has tons of competitors, but they still control the marketshare because Steam is more of a community than the others. Steam has been my main form of communication with IRL and gaming friends for almost 10 years.
Steam is one of the best things to happen to gaming in general and PC gaming specifically. No one else got off their ass and created a community and fixed matters so Valve did it. Were it not for Steam I seriously doubt companies like Relic would have done what they have for older DoW games and CoH titles. Steam has been getting my business and thanks to Shield TV will get even more in the future.
lol popularity =/= monopoly
They don't have a monopoly. Since reentering PC gaming late last year, Steam is responsible for less than half of the games I've gotten (other services being Uplay and GOG). That will probably change in Valve's favor as time goes on (because they do have a majority), but the point is that there is healthy competition. As long as PCs remain open (beware of Microsoft's push toward their store and apps), the user will always have a choice.
Sucking it dry
And i guess you think Game For Windows and Windows Store are the two saviors of PC games.
You assume a lot.
Steam helps PC gaming, because it is awesome. Nuff said.
I wonder who is behind these recent articles.
Why does someone have to be behind these articles ? Perhaps people are finally speaking out on how they feel about Steam.
And those people are morons.
well the first one to write these kind of articles is Polygon, go figure.
Nuthing to read here..move along..
What's with all the Steam hate lately?
It isn't hate, it's legitimate criticism.
PC would be a dead platform without Steam.
And it all just happens to come from multiple angles out of nowhere at the same time? Ok. So what's the legit criticism?
And what would the main disadvantage of steam be? And before you say DRM, it is the devs who implement that, not Steam.
it's most probably paid articles
Helping, Steam ftw.
It is fomenting the same mentality that created the 80s game crash.
Indie is likely to survive, but AAA wont. Likewise the big publishers will take their money and run.
1. Download games through the Microsoft Store
2. Download games through third party sites (Steam, Origin, Battle.net, GOG, etc)
3. Go back to lame consoles
I still can't believe gamers are perfectly fine with having to run a client/service/store in the background to play games they don't even really own.
PC gaming was doing just fine before Steam came along, Valve didn't save anything.
Remember Google's slogan 'don't be evil' ? Now they don't pay billions in taxes and build killer robots. They also stopped saying that.
If Valve didn't plough the seeds for digital distribution in 2004, the "PC Gaming is dead" rhetoric would have ended up being true half-a-decade later. Sure, there are other consumer friendly store fronts like GOG, humble bundle and even Origin as of late with their amazing customer service and competition is indeed welcome, but Valve was the only publisher who set the standard for PC game distribution which all of these other companies followed, an archetype. So, Valve and steam did more than just "help", in reality, PC gaming is relevant today because of them and this is not just for software but transcends to the cheap hardware (compared to the 80's and 90's) market that is succeeding today, as well.
So, the question on everyone's mind should really be, is polygon (with all these other noname sites who cash in on them afterwards) and their "JURNALIZM" helping the game industry with every tripe of an article/opinion piece they post as much as the number of times a horny pooch would hump a human's leg unless it gets a hole and most importantly here for N4G, does it offer anything more than clickbait trash, for it to not be banned from here?
With these anti Steam articles today, sounds like good timing right before Steam Sales and done with purpose
I haven't been paying much attention to Steam lately but don't forget if it wasn't for Steam PC gaming would have absolutely been dead.
Valve is ruining my bank account
People are disappointed that valve hasn't put a big focus on making games. Had they not pulled their resources into steam, it wouldn't be what it is today, you can say they played a big hand in the rising popularity in pc gaming. Also free online , regular sales , server almost never crashes, so the answer is a no trainer really
Steam was intended to make the pc gamer´s life easier, not having to deal with Starforce64 and other nasty DRM mechanisms of the late 90s early 2000 ... but nothing has changed since then :
- steam client is a DRM, without it you can not play any game (even though i´ve been told otherwise)
- Valve (2016) with 16,000 games made as much money as the year beofre (2015) with just 7,000 titles (big drop)
- nowdays games come with add. DRM ... so we get 2x DRM (steam+whatever the pc game uses, like denovuo)
- sometimes even, one has to login into steam, then into uplay then into the game (depending genre/type of game) ...
- steam feels more like bloatware to me... it has waaaaaaaaaay too many shitty crapware/games, it´s gotten too big
- GoG >>>>> steam ;)
The whole trick behind valve/steam is to give the "access tool" free of charge to a lot of people, then hope the sheeple to flock around it and start downloading/purchasing games. It would not surprise me, not that Valve ever was going to announce/admit it ... that they make 85% of their money off/by having those winter/summersales/steamkeys and the rest was coming from AAA titles (as seen by ex: ubisoft latest reports where the console copies make about 5 times as much).
NUMBERS of people (especially on mobile with 4bill. users?> multiple by >$1 title/app/summer/wintersalegam e< = $$$$$$$ ^ding^ding ... in other words : i´m pretty sure that one could make few millions of dollars by releasing the hotest and latest celebrity tits ... thru an app of course on your smartphone for $1. Bet there is already one ...
Steam is most likely uncontrollable right now that even Valve themselves prefer not to "curated it" anymore. What will happen once Steam has 20,000 or 30,000 games for sale, for the smaller teams (indie) out there it must be a brutal fight amongst them. waaaay too many to choose from and the risk of failure/dropping down on the steam list back to page 2 .. then page 14 by the 2nd week etc. must be quite high and potentially never to be found anymore.
Steam ain´the biggest PC "market" on this planet ... it is no fair comparison to make, but the pc market in Asia, in china alone is 5 times as big as steam and most of them don´t use steam during their internet cafe playtimes. In asia most of the pc f2p crap are offered directly by the publisher and played by 100mill. like Cross Fire. Steam matters only in the western part of the planet and even then Microsoft made more money than Valve ... add Sony and we´re are 3x the revenue, add Nintendo and it´s starting to look bad.
One thing that NEEDS to stop is the DOUBLE/TRIPPLE DIPPING! See Destiny 2! Many will get the console copy and then rebuy the PC version.. because of this Activision deliberately postpones the PC copy for those the prefer to play on the PC .. in hopes that most of them double dip! and buy the game twice (console+pc copy) as seen with previous titles (GTA5).
Do not double dip! No game is worth $120 ... not even the latest Zelda and it´s neverending-constant-easy to break-weapons ... why would you give them $120 for 2xcopies of a game? Wait for the pc copy to be released then buy it ... prolly going to do that (depends on the price) as well even though i havent played destiny 1.
As a PC gamer for 2 decades I have to say yes.
If I could, I would buy and download every single game on Steam. I could make an exception for Blizzard, but no one else needs a launcher. I want all my games, achievements, cards, and friends on Steam.
extreme clickbait! .com
Won't even bother with this click bait turd of an article
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