Halo is an amazing series with a fantastic world. So why are new games, spin-offs, and multimedia projects released so sporadically?
Meh. I'd rather see 343 try something entirely new. Give them room to flesh out their own imagination. Worked well for Guerilla Games.
lol Kill zone no where near halo in sales or popularity of course GG would have no problem walking away from it.
And Halo isn't the same Halo since Bungie broke away. Neither in sales or popularity.
Really ? Halo isn't the same anymore after Bungie left.
Ok, Then explain how Naughty Dog can easily walk away from Uncharted and do something new?
Wow you got shut down hard lol!
@Razzer Thats BS dude. Halo is massively popular because of the multiplayer and Halo5 has the best MP the series has ever seen
New ip doesn't just make something fresh and entertaining. If Nintendo can take a 30 yr old franchise and breathe new life into it, the same can be done for Halo. Problem with Halo is it hasn't evolved. A game executed the right way could change people's view of the franchise.
Have you not played Halo 5. Saying it hasn't evolved is ludicrous. What do you want it to be a JRPG?
Evolution implies a good thing.
Halo 5 was not good. Just copied what other shooters were doing and slapped in halo. Plus it was ugly as f***. The 343 art style ALSO has divided fans.
All 343 has managed to do is divide the community.
Agreed, its not because Ip is old. IT's because the game isn't as good.
Not to say it hasn't changed, doesn't mean it's good changes.
Oh it did evolve, and that's the problem.
You can't really compare Killzone to Halo. Killzone never was even close to the success Halo had. The Franchise is beyond Games. It has Comics, Books, TV Series, a lot of Merch, a huge Cosplay community and the most important thing: it has a freaking huge dedicated fanbase. Something Killzone never had. Just look at the last game. They basically killed the franchise. Why would you want to ride a burning train if you can jump off and make something new?
343i will make Halo games and this is what fans want. No other FPS this gen has the level of Content, polish and competitive focus Halo has. People play Halo games for years after even the next game comes out. Why would you drop a successful franchise like this? Would Nintendo drop Mario or Zelda? NO, people buy Nintendo consoles for those games, just like people buy XBOX consoles for Halo, Gears and Forza.
They could go the God of War route and ruin the franchise, just to make it into a movie game without any kind of unique gameplay. Make Master Chief third person, zoom in so you only see his back and give him a sword. Script the hell outta every level and make the player live a movie.
God of war "ruined". Pfffft. Whatever dude.
I'm not saying drop Halo. That would be crazy. But nothing stopping them from expanding into new IP.
Hahaha God of War "ruined." Get out of here dude. You haven't even played it. never mind it is Cory Barlog handling the series which it couldn't be in better hands.
Oh really ? This new GOD of War is direct by GOW 2 director.
The defence helmet is too tight if you think GoW is ruined, every one I played has been fantastic.
If you won't believe me, you should watch this video of a playstation guy:
***They could go the God of War route and ruin the franchise, just to make it into a movie game without any kind of unique gameplay. ***
Bit early to be saying such a thing, no?
And that is why Halo 4and 5 are considered no where near as good as the Bungie Halo's? Halo 3 was the peak of the franchise. Halo has lost its edge and will most likely never gain it back. Worse reviews and lower sales are indicators of that.
Why do I care what some youtuber says? He hasn't played the game. Neither have you. Neither has anyone.
Stop posting. You are embarrassing yourself.
Key words are "since joining Sony". They existed before Killzone, weren't formed to continue it, even if they only made forgettable Gameboy titles.
343 might have the talent to do more than wring a dry franchise drier, but by the example of Rare being left to rot for the longest, until MS stops trying to make everything into a online shooter, either noting is going to change or the results wont be worth much.
With half the install base, they managed to outsell Uncharted 4, Sonys biggest franchise atm. How is this considered bad?
Meanwhile Sony first party studios are forced to make Last of Us clones aka the new direction of GOW and Days Gone.
"Why do I care what some youtuber says? "
I don't know, maybe because he makes good points and has generally more knowledge about gaming than anyone I know of? Look at his other videos, this guy is a genius.
Its not my fault they didn't put in a child to make the story emotional and get better scores. They, for whatever reason, tried to have better Gameplay first. Something a lot of new games are missing. FUN addictive GAMEPLAY, plus the best MP in the franchise. Meanwhile other games give you cutscene after cutscene and have walkitalki segments all day and are considered groundbreaking GAMES. I miss the time when Gameplay was king.
Do you have proof that Halo 5 outsold Uncharted 4? I have proof that U4 had better first week than H5 in UK ( 192k VS 150k) and UK is Xbox's second strongest market. If U4 outsold it there, then imagine sales in Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Japan,...where Xbox One doesn't exist.
Halo 5 did not outsell Uncharted 4. He has been spouting that lie for some time.
Ye true, they just had 16.5 million players last july because of.... nothing I guess. Lime told me every halo player uses 4 different accounts on his xbox, so its divided by 3-4 = around 5 million by his logic. According to him they sold around 5 million, even thought they did that after 3 months. GG that logic
Because of nothing? Why do you have to lie so much, dude? You know damn full well there was a free week last July for Halo 5.
"As mentioned last week, in celebration of the launch of Warzone Firefight, Halo 5: Guardians will be available free to download for anyone with Xbox Live Gold starting today and running to July 5! This will also be a great chance to buy the game if you haven’t done so already – Halo 5: Guardians will be available 50 percent off in the Xbox Store!"
This guy again.. Why do you call ME a troll, when you troll like this?
"just to make it into a movie game without any kind of unique gameplay."
"Sony first party studios are forced to make Last of Us clones"
None of which are grounded in truth, and only written to irritate Sony fans.
"Its not my fault they didn't put in a child to make the story emotional and get better scores."
Nothing but pre-emptive, salty nonsense from an Xbox fantroll who is mad that PlayStation exclusives are better rated and have won more game awards in the last 5 years than Xbox has won since it was established. Do you watch "genius" YouTube videos and then degrade your mind to the level of a pre-schooler to write comments on N4G?
16.5 million payers on FORGE
"During a panel at RTX 2016, 343 Industries revealed the official player count of Halo 5. It now numbers over 16.5 million gamers. Please note that this figure only represents the gamers who have played Forge. "
this is a one mode. What about the players that never used forge? What about the players that only go in for the SP?
"Nothing but pre-emptive, salty nonsense from an Xbox fantroll who is mad that PlayStation exclusives are better rated and have won more game awards in the last 5 years than Xbox has won since it was established. Do you watch "genius" YouTube videos and then degrade your mind to the level of a pre-schooler to write comments on N4G?Nothing but pre-emptive, salty nonsense from an Xbox fantroll who is mad that PlayStation exclusives are better rated and have won more game awards in the last 5 years than Xbox has won since it was established. Do you watch "genius" YouTube videos and then degrade your mind to the level of a pre-schooler to write comments on N4G?"
Also, love how this is coming from a guy that only plays on 1 system, trolling his way through this site and praising everything god sony does. #gottabeaslave
Even then, the number of players does not equate to the number of copies sold since multiple players can use the same copy of a game in a household. Frank O'Connor revealed that Halo 5 sold ~5 million as of Jan 2016. And you come in here suggesting the game sold over 10 million between then and July. LOL. The free week boosted the numbers and you are dreaming up scenarios where Halo 5 outsold Uncharted 4 again. Your obsession is kind of strange.
Uncharted 4 sold 8.7 million. If Halo 5 had sold that many, we would know because MS would have sent Greenberg out to brag about it. More than likely Halo 5 hit less than 6 million. But go right ahead making shit up.
"More than likely Halo 5 hit less than 6 million"
I sure hope they announce the numbers. Halo games sell all gen. Meanwhile Uncharted is the number 1 game you find used over at gamestop. Halo gave the players 1 year worth of updates and new content. Of course people bought it after the free weekend and especially when it was discounted.
Tomb Raider with Covenant enemies and the new "Spartan Bow".
343 was literally made for halo lol...
hey im always down for developers making new games in different genres but let 343 finish out their halo saga which we are on the 3rd game....3rd of the trilogy. Its climax time and I dont see 343 letting us down(halo fans)im still playing halo 5 every week.
Guerilla Games wasn't created to support/continue an exiting IP.
But they did nothing but Killzone since joining Sony. I see no reason why a dev can't branch out.
Microsoft has entire races with huge back stories they could work with. They have a history that they could fall back on that would have nothing to do with what is going on with Earth. There is room for RPGs... Third person action adventure... all kinds of stuff they just haven't explored. Personally I think all the FPSes of the Halo Universe should be done with MC and his crew... I don't want to effing play as some joker
Having the team do a new IP would make them think differently about game design too, broaden their approach to development, and allow them to experiment more with gameplay. All these experiences could be brought to the Halo series to improve the games overall.
Having a dev chained to one franchise often causes burnout and stale games. MS 1st party devs in particular...with the exception of Turn 10.
They do need to work on some new IP's and give Halo a rest for awhile. Would love to see them make a non-shooter game.
Nothing better to do. They all busy becoming monks. They've all taken a vow of silence to appease the gods to make sure Scorpio makes money.
SO you can understand wy Halo and all their other exclusive ips have been shat on.
Only Bungie can bring halo to center stage again
It was Halo 4 that got me back into Halo and Bungies Destiny that made me regret trusting them.
H4 is what turned me off Halo :( I was so excited for it too...I hope they take a good long time for H6 and make it amazing again..
You mean after 4 Expansion Pks DLC and world you still explore .
I'm not referring to Destiny but just Halo.
Once Halo was approaching the high quality sci-fi lore of Star Trek to me. Each game,developer interview or book would shed new light on the intricacies of the Covenant,the Forerunners and beyond.
Now the story feels neutered and butchered. Of course I'm not the only one who sees that so enjoy the MP.
@TheColbertinator that's the thing u think bungie can make things right , they can't even get their game right , with that being said I trust 343 more than I would trust bungie these days .
Understood. I disagree but I understand your view.
Well the focus of Destiny is different than Halo. If Bungie went back, it's like a veteran going back to what they do best.
But what else can you do with the MC story line?
So maybe to avoid over, over saturation with franchise or maybe to not drain the possible stores just to meet demand .
I wanna see a full on halo rpgs. The universe has amazing lore and so many great stories to tell other than just what master chief is doing. You could go two directions with it, a planet hoping mass effect kinda game or the safer route and have it on maybe one or two planets. Plus it wouldn't have to interfere with the fps halo at all and could really open new fans up to the expanded universe
A Halo Starship Commander game would be cool. You are the captain of a big capital ship. You make the decisions of what you do from raising shields, choosing weapons to fire, maneuvers, releasing fighters, conversations with enemies and other factions.
It could cover the first contact with the Covenant, which was their first alien contact in general.
I've wanted something like that ever since I read the old original Halo novel.
343 would find a way to screw it up. It seems to be all they do.
That's a really good idea actually
I'm a bit tired of the franchise. Like it's not bad, but it feels like I go through the motions when I play the next installment.
I haven't really been as interested since Halo 3. I used to play through the story mode on legendary difficulty with my brothers and dad through system link every so often. Now that we have all gotten older and don't have the time anymore, i just don't care about the series anymore.
The first Halo was very Amazing. It felt like you could go anywhere, so much detail, the AI was smart and the sceans would play out diffrent. You could use the physics to do things like use a tank like a ramp and jump off the map. Now, I can't even recognize the game. Seems like Destiny is more Halo than Halo is.
Have you seen Halo 5 Forge?
Destiny is more removed from "Old Halo", than any of the newer Halo titles are.
Wasting Halo? They milked it to death, are people that deluded?
Uhhhh is this a joke? We make fun of Microsoft because of their overuse.
Halo Wars 2 - 2017
Halo 5 - 2015
Halo: Spartan Strike - 2015
Halo: MCC - 2014
Halo: Spartan Assault - 2013
Halo 4 - 2012
7 games prior to that.
And those are just the games.
I say give Halo a breather for another few years. I have been an avid fan since the beginning, read the novels, waited in line for Halo 2, etc, etc but even I feel it has grown tired.
It just needs to be taken back to its roots.
Halo 4 and 5 did not really resemble Halo games.
Halo 4, was built off of Bungie's Halo: Reach. While Halo 5, seems to take influence from Halo 2, with the addition of enhanced mobility. Due to the series showing declining sales and popularity. I assume after Halo 6, 343i will move on to non-Halo projects. And no Halo FPS will be released for an extended period of time.
I think halo's decline in popularity is due to many reasons.
1 halo is no longer the "only kid on the block". There are so many fps games to choose from its ridiculous. Not only that, new fps are coming out left and right.
2 halo is no longer being made by the same developer. I wonder how do destiny's numbers compare to halo's numbers. I havent tried destiny, but i hear people really liked it when it came out. 343 does a good job, but it is not the same.
3 halo came out at a time when there were less games overall. Now there are so many games being released a lot of people i know have backlogs of games. Its tough to keep up.
dump fps fast paced twitch halo and convert it into a mass effect type game, while also being in 3rd person, or convert it to more of an open world do whatever you want rpg in 1st person (think skyrim or fallout) but over several planets/moons.
In an alternative world: "Why is Microsoft milking Halo so much?"
I've gotten over 150 thousand legit online multiplayer kills between all major halo releases (never touched 5) and I'm fine with just letting halo die. The MCC is enough for me I just enjoyed some good ol halo 3 multiplayer yesterday. I really wish 343 didn't abandoned the MCC though 😭
They have been using halo as a crutch imo everytime they take it out to show it off it feels uninspired and tired ever since bungie left on a high note character development feels weak the story has declined massively in quality.
343 halo titles feel like they try but can't capture the magic and probably want to make their own ip instead of living in bungies shadow