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Windows 10 - Game Mode tested in 6 CPU-bound PC games

DSOGaming writes: "Windows 10’s Creators Update is now available to everyone. As such, and since it supports the new Game Mode, we decided to put six CPU-bound titles to the test."

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tyasia02564d ago

Wow I can't believe it, Microsoft hyped something up and it turns out to be nothing. None of those tests are outside of the margin of error.

Microsoft is doing the same hype machine with Scorpio but the sad thing is they have already paid off the most reliable source of information eurogamer. I mean after this one sided coverage were getting how can anyone trust them to be unbiased at this point...

KingKionic 2563d ago (Edited 2563d ago )

There`s more to this then the article shows.

"Windows 10 Game Mode can boost performance after all"

"A couple new stories from PCWorld shed more light on the situations in which Game Mode really can make a difference, as well as Microsoft’s plans for the future of this capability. Test Game Mode on a high-end PC with lots of threads and minimal background programs, and the situation is much as you’d expect — frame rates improve very little, if at all.

But Brad Chacos decided to test the mode a bit differently. He fired up a number of simultaneous applications, left them running in the background, and then started benchmarking. I recommend reading the full article, but here’s a slide of how much minimum frame rates can improve when you start running background tasks while using Game Mode:"

https://www.extremetech.com...

https://www.extremetech.com...

Eurogamer getting paid off? Theres no validation there to back that up.

Princess_Pilfer2563d ago

You don't need "game mode" to do that. There are a number of ways to give games CPU priority to prevent background applications slowing them down. "Game Mode" isn't doing anything that couldn't be done with an alt tab and a right click.

FATAL1TY2563d ago

W10+xbox

Overhype, Microfail, Epic Fail!

TankCrossing2563d ago

@Princess_Pilfer Game mode seems to be the easiest way. Still not the best way of course, but Windows is used by all sorts of people so it is important to provide "the easiest way" as well.

I don't really see anything to whine about.

Princess_Pilfer2563d ago (Edited 2563d ago )

@TankCrossing I wasn't whining, I was making a statement of fact.

Game mode was hyped as this big performance booster, but it's literally just making it slightly faster to give games CPU priority, which means it does basically nothing if you're on a particularly powerful PC, aren't running a ton of background stuff, or have bothered to give the game priority in any other way (command lines, manually setting/saving the priority in the task manager when you install the game, ect.)

That's not a bad thing, it's a good thing, but it also wasn't marketed either honesty or correctly.

TankCrossing2562d ago

@Princess you may not be whining, but plenty of people here seem to be.

With regards to the dishonest/incorrect marketing, I haven't really seen much from Microsoft to be honest. I did a quick google search on 'Windows 10 Game Mode' to see if it turned anything up, but it seems to just be a few websites reporting on the feature when it was added to the insider update.

I did find this one http://uk.businessinsider.c... where they actually spoke to Microsoft:
"The idea, Orullian says, is that when Game Mode is enabled, it'll optimize your computer's processor and graphics card to prioritize a game you have open. So whatever software is in the background will still be running, but your computer will divert fewer resources to them.

The end result is a much smoother gaming experience. Depending on your hardware setup, Game Mode may actually boost the overall performance of the game, but Orullian warns that that's not what Microsoft is aiming for. The goal is consistency, so no matter what's running in the background, it'll be a smooth experience."

Seems pretty straight to me...

Princess_Pilfer2562d ago

"The GPU will prioritize the game" is called "full screen," and CPU priority is as I've already explained.

So, best case, this is an attempt to fix the fact that UWPs are dog **** that require work arounds like "game mode" to do what exe's manage simply by going fullscreen. That's not adding consistency either, because you could also manage that by minimizing whatever is in the background so it's not being rendered.

It's not much of an improvement. It's not providing consistency either because, as I just said, you can do those things with proper fullscreen, minimizing tasks, and setting games to a high priority. Basically, if you already know how to use your computer to play games then game mode doesn't do anything.

Also, directly from MS: Our vision is for Game Mode to optimize your Windows 10 PC for increased performance in gaming," head of Xbox platform engineering Mike Ybarra said in a post on the Xbox Wire. "This is a big update for Windows; we're looking forward to Insiders getting their hands on this new feature for further testing, and we'll have much more to share on what it is and how it works soon, so stayed tuned."
https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

Which is obviously misleading, because that's not what it does.

"The result is a much smoother gaming expereince"
Again, misleading. It's much smoother if you habitually let other things eat all your resources and don't take any steps to prioritize the games performance. If you do things like run games in full screen and set games to high priority, or have a sufficently powerful cpu, it doesn't do anything.

rainslacker2562d ago

@princess

I'd imagine that this would be more for people who aren't so savvy, and don't take the time to shut down background applications when running their game. Those that already know how to optimize their experience before ever starting the game probably won't see a ton of benefit from it.

Game mode was never meant to do anything but reallocate resources, and give higher priority to the game application when it's active. I don't know what people really expected from this, because anyone with any computer knowledge knows that one can do this themselves, and until MS decides to suspend background services which aren't needed while gaming....which they won't due to making sure things stay compatible....it won't show much gains.

A better way to handle game mode would be to have an option which uses some sort of hypervisor to completely isolate the running game from almost all tasks which aren't absolutely required for the game and OS to run. That's unlikely to happen without a major redesign of the OS kernel though.

MorpheusX2562d ago

@KionicWarlord222

" Eurogamer getting paid off? Theres no validation there to back that up. "

Its a common occurrence you know, companies get paid off.......use your imagination.

We are talking about Micorsoft here, ......even the so called Big Bad "Angry Joe" was afraid to review Gears of War 4, and he still hasn't?

Is that a coincidence? Yeaaa riiight.

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christocolus2563d ago

Eurogamer has been paid off to praise Scorpio?

Lmao. Didn't they cover PS4 Pros tech too? Weren't they impressed by it? Did you think they were paid by Sony too? The hypocrisy is real.

"By Richard Leadbetter Published 20/10/2016

Six weeks on from the unveiling of the Sony's latest console and I'm in a conference room in Sony's new San Mateo HQ, revisiting the bulk of the PlayStation 4 Pro titles unveiled so far, accompanied by system architect Mark Cerny....

And...
Digital Foundry met with Mark Cerny at the PlayStation Campus in San Mateo. Sony paid for travel and accommodation."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

So are they Sony shills too? Get over it. Scorpio is some impressive hardware and DF is impressed by it. They will report facts even if it makes you feel uncomfortable.

kevnb2563d ago (Edited 2563d ago )

Since Microsoft has a shady history, people are skeptical of any positive coverage.

Cueil2563d ago

Microsoft has a shady history? Maybe a Little research on Sony will show you that neither company is clean... Hint use rootkit as a key word

rainslacker2562d ago

I'd say he wasn't paid for either. But one can't deny the huge amount of marketing type hyperbolic statements they used to describe the Scorpio, when the PS4P reveal seemed much more analytical. While both were certainly positive outlooks, one read like a advertisement, while the other sounded like an technical analyst doing their job.

Eonjay2562d ago

"Eurogamer has been paid off to praise Scorpio?"

I'm sorry but wouldn't you know?

christocolus2562d ago

@eonjay

I'm sorry but I don't like dealing with trolls or people who usually talk BS...Maybe you need to direct that question to your friend (tyasia) above. You guys seem to have a lot in common.

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Eonjay2561d ago

Im saying you sound bought and paid for. Its not trolling. Its fact. I like PlayStation but you are a corporate mouthpiece. I know you don't even feel that way so it seems forced. We are consumers first. To me your constant pandering is unattractive and unnatural. I hope you are paid. l was trying to be kind. I could understand it if you were. Remember, these companies aren't our friends.

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Kiwi662563d ago

So everytime someone says something good about xbox that means they've been paid off now ?

Goldby2563d ago (Edited 2563d ago )

well Machinima was when Xbox one was first announced. to the point they lost viewers because they weren't transparent initially

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Goldby2563d ago

@Nemisis

https://www.vg247.com/2015/...

https://www.wired.com/2015/...

https://www.ftc.gov/news-ev...

Not only footage, but also only state positive notes about it. nothign bad, and also the fact that they were charged because they failed to disclose a large some of their money was coming from MS.

Heck the real guys of Inside Gaming left machinima because of it and started up fun haus with rooster teeth becuase of the backlash

gangsta_red2563d ago

Interesting, everyone of those links only Machinima is accused.

But none of them seem to implicate that MS was involved, in fact one link even says MS was let off scott-free.

"they failed to disclose a large some of their money was coming from MS."

Except it wasn't coming from MS, it was coming from Machinima as your links state.

Goldby2563d ago

@Gangsta

Read the Wired.com article again.
From the first paragraph
"Earlier this year, the FTC issued a complaint against Machinima, saying that it had failed to disclose financial incentives regarding video content uploaded by its member channels, in violation of the Federal Trade Commission Act. Microsoft, through an outside agency, paid Machinima to produce positive videos about the Xbox One game machine, and many of the YouTube stars who accepted the deal failed to properly disclose that they were producing paid, sponsored content, not independent analysis."

Microsoft, through an outside agency paid Machinima to produce positive videos about the Xbox One

gangsta_red2562d ago (Edited 2562d ago )

@Goldby

So you're saying MS paid an outside agency to make positive videos about their product?

Who would have thought that a company would do such a thing, to pay for advertisements promoting their product in a positive light. I was fully expecting MS to pay an advertising agency to totally talk bad and shit all over their product.

Well that settles it, I am now convinced that every positive website that is impressed with anything related to Xbox means that they were paid off by MS as tyasia suggested.

"...and many of the YouTube stars who accepted the deal failed to properly disclose that they were producing paid, sponsored content, not independent analysis."

Sounds to me that this was on Macninima, which is probably why MS was not charged and got off "scott-free". It seems it was Machninma's idea to advertise in that way, not MS's unless there's another FTC lawsuit I am not aware of.

Goldby2562d ago

No read again
and actualy read what the words are saying.

Microsoft, through an outside agency paid Machinima to produce positive videos about the Xbox One.

aka MS paid Machinima to make deceitful ads that are only showing positive remarks about the console.
The fact they went through a 3rd party so that the checks weren't directly coming from MS doesn't change the issue of what actually happened. they were being bombarded with badd press from their E3 launch to their power gap between ps4 and x1 to the point a 1080;p ps4 game had to run at 900p for the same frames. The fact they force people to buy kinect because yet it didn't even work as intended, but all them Machinima ads showed how perfectly it was.

gangsta_red2562d ago

Goldby, I think you're adding your own little spin on something every company does.

MS hired Macnhinma to advertise their product. Now unless you have the documents from MS that specifically told Machinima to make sure the ads were "deceitful" then you may have a point. But right now you sound like your adding your MS is an evil empire for something that a lot of companies do, hire a third party to promote their content.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

"This partnership between Machinima and Microsoft was a typical marketing partnership to promote Xbox One in December. The Xbox team does not review any specific content or provide feedback on content. Any confidentiality provisions, terms or other guidelines are standard documents provided by Machinima. For clarity, confidentiality relates to the agreements themselves, not the existence of the promotion."

Again, I have to ask, why wasn't Microsoft charged along with Machinima?

"The fact they force people to buy kinect because yet it didn't even work as intended, but all them Machinima ads showed how perfectly it was."

Really? All that, interesting because the lawsuits doesn't claim any of that only that the people paid didn't disclose that they were paid by Machinima. And most of these youtubers paid weren't reviewing the Xbox itself just playing games running on Xbox.

This is a lot different from the Sony/Vita incident they were charged with by the FTC. But similar in the fact that the FTC also charged a Deutsche advertising agency for promoting Vita falsely.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-ev...

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annoyedgamer2562d ago

That's been the story around here for years. Once upon a time any Playstation exclusive that got less than a 9/10 was written by a MS paid reviewer.

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Gazondaily2563d ago

Lmao you can actually feel tysias hurt from this and the angry fanboys that agreed with him that Eurogamer were paid off. Getting those excuses in early for those face off articles I see 😂🤣

Psychotica2563d ago

Yes, everything is a conspiracy..ridiculous

Chris122563d ago

tyasia0 - don't let libellous statements stop you from your trolling in every Xbox thread. You really have got your jimmies in a twist over Scorpio.

Bigpappy2563d ago

Oh, lets not stop there. Maybe they paid off Shadow of war developers and Bethesda. I am sure we shall hear of more.
@tyasia0: you really need to chill and stop making unfounded claims about people. If it turns out that Scorpio cant run games at native 4K, that would be the end of DF, like the case with Lens of Truth.
Your love for Sony is strong but not admirable. You are headed in to a sickness category that may need some professional help.

IrishSt0ner2563d ago

"turns out to be nothing"

The guy in this article used an overclocked i7 4930K (a CPU over 6x faster than the console CPUs).

Game Mode's goal is to boost a game’s minimum frame rate, particularly for low-mid end systems.

Testing the new 'game mode' should use a range of hardware, especially low end configurations.

It's saying ok what does game mode do? I'll test the opposite to draw my conclusion... well done Einstein!!!

zb1ftw7772563d ago

It's a bit like the Sony E3 reveal 2 years ago with Final Fantasy 7 and the likes.

That was their main showpiece.... And like...... Turned out to be a no show.

All hype, no delivery.

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Ashlen2563d ago

Uh they just showed new footage a few weeks ago, it's still in the works FF7 is a huge game.

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fr0sty2563d ago

Who runs CPU intensive games while running a bunch of CPU hog apps in the background anyway? DX11 games seem to get a very slight boost, but some games actually run worse with the new update, even with game mode turned off. Lots of work left to do on this, but it is a step in the right direction to know they are working on ways to streamline PC operating systems for gaming.

Knockknock2562d ago

Surprised you can type through them tears!

dmetripaulpavlin2562d ago

They didn't hype it at all lol. Link a single article where they hyped it.

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peewee110162563d ago

After the update i had to reset my whole PC. Game mode seems to try to disable discord and even skype sometimes.. When they said GAMEMODE WOULD BE A HUGE THIS UPDATE... Yeah whatever

bolimekurac2563d ago (Edited 2563d ago )

game mode is allocating more resources to the game so it might shut other things off, thats the point, it also helps on lower end pc's and cards

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nitus102562d ago

Err no! Basically, all applications are scheduled and run at a particular priority which depending on the priority some applications will run at the expense of others. However, all applications that are running under the operating system will continue to run depending on their requirements and priority. This has nothing to do with the resources that are demanded by an application. In the case of the so-called Microsoft Gaming Mode, all this basically does is to change the priority of the process to be higher than noncritical processes.

A good starting point in understanding how priorities and scheduling works is the following: https://www.techopedia.com/... There are plenty of other sites as well that are a lot more detailed.

Maxor2562d ago

Idiots haters are probably gaming on their dad's Windows 7 laptop.

Windows 10 game mode do improvement performance up to 5 fps. On the console, this would be considered as huge. But on the PC its just nice to have and some people don't even notice the difference on a very well optimized system.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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Unspoken2563d ago

What did you do to your PC? Had the update install cleanly and no problems with Discord running in the background.

TankCrossing2563d ago (Edited 2563d ago )

Who said "GAMEMODE WOULD BE A HUGE THIS UPDATE..."? Were they actually shouting?

PantherDragoon2563d ago (Edited 2563d ago )

Smokes and mirrors. Nothing surprising. Usual stuff from microsoft.

Unspoken2563d ago

Dumb comments without anything to back it up, usual fan boy garbage.

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JasonKCK2563d ago

I don't go to any PS news and articles and I agree with Unspoken

Cohagen4202563d ago

Because its the fanboys fault this game mode doesn't really do anything, rrrrright.

Unspoken2562d ago

Proof is in the link below from Lon3wolf. Sony fanboy slogan: keep the ignorance going.

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@PantherDragoon

Exactly. smh

Cloud Gaming is going to Boost XB1 into the stratosphere".....blah blah blah, and that was 2013.

Smh, same BS fanboys fall for everytime, MS is THE KING of BS'n.

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Lon3wolf2563d ago

As with the average frame rate, there’s virtually no difference. Game Mode doesn’t make a difference if you aren’t clogging up your computer with multiple programs.

But if you are, Game Mode can have significant impact—enough to mean the difference between a playable and unplayable experience, subjectively. Here are the minimum frame rates for the trio of tested games when background processes are running in the background.

URL for the above:

http://www.pcworld.com/arti...

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Embracer Group Re-organizing Into 3 Separate Companies

Hopefully this gets Embracer group back on track

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TheColbertinator16h ago

Embracer really destroyed itself faster than I ever expected.

Hedstrom1h ago

Yea! But thats what happens when you have 2,2 billion dollar in debt and the interest rise from 0,5% to 5% in a year

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With Larian Out Of The Picture, Will The Baldur's Gate IP Be In Safe Hands?

Huzaifah from eXputer: "With Larian Studios washing their hands of the IP, what is the ultimate fate of the legendary Baldur's Gate series?"

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RaidenBlack5d ago

If anybody's gonna mention BioWare, then look at Archetype Entertainment, they're the new BioWare
or else
Obsidian is still a good choice but not independent anymore.

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

No, WoTC is pivoting to mobile. They can use Larian's work to justify DnD Go and everyone will accept it.

RiseNShine5d ago

Short answer, nope. Long answer, f*ck nope.

robtion4d ago

Correct answer. Most people don't realise that the companies that are still making good games using common sense and a customer focus are generally not American. They are from Poland, Belgium, Japan, or other countries that have not yet become completely corrupted by 'extreme capitalism'.

Before you down vote me into oblivion I am not anti-american. I just don't like greed and corruption which unfortunately seems to correlate with power.

I would guess the next Baldurs gate will probably be filled with GaaS.

RiseNShine2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This is simply not true, probably the most capitalistic company in the world is Ubisoft right now, actually claiming that we have to get used to not owning games and asking 130$ for the ultimate edition of star wars outlaws with paywalled day one exclusive DLC, and they are from France, which is a socialist country with all kind of public services for everything, so it's not something exclusive to America or directly related to highly capitalist countries.

Of course, communist countries like China don't have problems like this, since workers don't have rights to strike since 1982 and unions are affiliated to the national government, so you'll never hear of any labour rights issues on these non-capitalist countries, they simply can't make their voices heard on their working conditions, neither by strikes or independent unions, that's better for you i suppose.

Christopher5d ago

Honestly, we're talking completely new engine and none of Larian's built-in stuff with regard to environments and the like that they had from their past divinity game. No one is going to have that just ready to go. So, they need to shop for a dev studio that has a past game that shows what they want.

Obsidian doesn't have that, maybe the closest being Dungeon Siege 3 or Pillars of Eternity, but those are very basic, not as open, very little environment related and altering capabilities. So, we're talking a step way back on what Larian delivered. Zero scene experience to line up with what was done in BG3. Okay conversation tree designs, but still needs more complexity.

inXile has Wasteland 3 as a base model engine, and I think that's better than Pillars of Eternity from Obsidian. But, still needs to be more open world, more environmental effects, and a much heavier rules set adaptation. But, not a bad overall engine as a base, but still a ton of work. Zero scene experience to line up with what was done in BG3. Needs a ton of work on that entirely.

Tactical Adventure did the Solasta game. Really good and more accurate as far as 5e rules than BG3. But, again, if the expectation is similar to what made BG3 a big hit, engine isn't designed for moving the camera, is a bit outdated in graphics, doesn't have in-game scene elements, and needs much better writers/voice actors.

Owlcat of pathfinder games is another choice, even though they've recently moved on to WH40k licensed games. Again, though, the engine is the biggest issue here to match up, but it's a much better option overall than Tactical Adventure. Another question is writers/story telling, as much of their overall story telling bits are very limited with a lot of random worldbuilding elements that are just +\- of some attributes.

TBH, no matter who takes over, it's just not going to be like BG3 much like how BG3 isn't at all like BG1/2. And BG3 was so successful because of how much Larian was able to put in with their engine and how focused they were on players having ridiculous control over the story being told. I just don't see the next BG being the same and depending on what it is, it might be good but I'm not as big of a reach as BG3. It's way more likely players are going to go into BG4 (or its spiritual successor if it moves away from Baldur's Gate and into Neverwinter or something like Plansescape) expecting much of what is in BG3 with more options, new and older characters, and the same level of control over what they're doing. If it doesn't have that, regardless of who makes it, it won't be as successful, IMHO.

exputers4d ago

Yes, I completely concur.

As good and talented as inXile and Obsidian are in their own specific way of making their particular games, none of them have Larian's attention to detail, dynamic worlds, and reactivity, so even if they end up making a new Baldur's Gate, it's going to be a significant step-down in terms of gameplay if not narrative.

CrimsonWing695d ago

Probably not, but maybe… just maybe…

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