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Xbox Chief Phil Spencer Is Right About The Future Of Console Games

With mid-generation "refreshes" like the PS4 Pro and Xbox Scorpio, a hardware generation can last much longer than before, at least in theory, while still keeping pace with evolving technology. Meanwhile, a more powerful PS5 or Xbox Two (or whatever they might be called) is a lot less appealing at this point, since modern systems are already pumping out impressive visuals and anything more powerful represents diminishing returns for consumers.

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chrisx186d ago (Edited 186d ago )

Makes sense. Late 2019 or 2020 would be a good time for the Ps5

nevarDcirE186d ago (Edited 186d ago )

Damn, I've see so many people predicting when the ps5 will be out lately. I wonder why?

ShadowKnight186d ago (Edited 186d ago )

Because of their future exclusives!! Games Games Games

moldybread186d ago

while scorpio is around you will see even more talk about exclusives from its critics to try and overshadown anything scorpio improves on and then more and more talk about the ps5 being right around the corner.

S2Killinit186d ago

@nevarDcir
Because people want to know if its better to wait for the PS5 if it coming in 2-3 years, an investment in scorpio might be foolish for some.

uptownsoul186d ago

@moldybread

Sorry, but Sony's exclusives were going to be talked about regardless of Scorpio...Thats what happens when God of War, Spider-Man, The Last of Us, Death Stranding, etc are in the pipeline.

zivtheawesome186d ago

2019 isn't late, 6 years after the release of the ps4 and 3 years after the pro, also means 2 years after the scorpio and probably a one year advantage before MS releases their next gen system.
if they'll do 2020, then that means that both Sony and MS will go head to head with their next gen consoles and they both will try to make the most powerfull console they can for an affordable price of 399$. now that would be a very interesting battle as scorpio practically gave up on the kinect so both the consoles would be focused 100% about power.

2pacalypsenow186d ago (Edited 186d ago )

@moldybread

Kinda like the early Ps4 days and how people said the Ps4 has no games and the graphics don't mean anything? Goes both ways, PlayStation fanboys are just as bad as Xbox ones, only difference is that those Xbox exclusives were good games, and the current PS4 exclusives are great games.

And btw, Ms does it too, when the console is not leading in sales they focus on bullets shot in Gears of war, but when they do all they talk about is sales, whatever fits your argument. I guarantee when the Scorpio releases it will sell great at first and MS will talk about nothing but sales.

OB1Biker186d ago (Edited 186d ago )

I don't what everyone is about with PS5 vs Scorpio reference. Scorpio, XB1 is for people who want an xbox. PS5, (or PS4, PS4Pro now) will be for people who want a PlayStation. Easy

Edit. If your easy on money then buy everything if you wish haha

moldybread186d ago

@uptownsoul
"Sorry, but Sony's exclusives were going to be talked about regardless of Scorpio...Thats what happens when God of War, Spider-Man, The Last of Us, Death Stranding, etc are in the pipeline."

difference is that will be ALL they want to talk about.

@2pacalypsenow
"Kinda like the early Ps4 days and how people said the Ps4 has no games and the graphics don't mean anything?"

the ps4 always had games so im not sure what your point is.

"PlayStation fanboys are just as bad as Xbox ones, only difference is that those Xbox exclusives were good games, and the current PS4 exclusives are great games."

actually the difference is there are far more thasn the suggested 2-1 sales figures showing playstation support on this forum. disgaree?

"And btw, Ms does it too, when the console is not leading in sales they focus on bullets shot in Gears of war, but when they do all they talk about is sales, whatever fits your argument. I guarantee when the Scorpio releases it will sell great at first and MS will talk about nothing but sales."

i understand the concept of trying to sell your own product, difference is we are consumers.

darthv72186d ago (Edited 186d ago )

Seeing as both came out with more powerful hardware about half way through... many will likely just wait for that to happen again. Thus skipping out on the initial PS5 and XB2 in favor of the PS5 Pro and the Xbox Sagittarius.

So the whole mid gen thing becomes like any other gen. Waiting around the 5-6 year mark to pick up the next system. You have your initial release 5-6 years after the previous initial release and then 3 years in you have your mid gen release that coincides with the mid gen release that was 5-6 years prior as well.

Should make for an interesting cycle.

Silly gameAr186d ago

Hopefully they don't start the next gen early like MS.

XanderZane186d ago

@ShadowKnight
There are tons of future exclusives right now, without the PS5. They didn't even need a PS4 Pro to be honest. PS4 was doing just fine. Sony wanted a system that could improve on the PS4, which is fine, but why release a PS4 Slim as well, when the OG PS4 was already Slim? Dropping the price of the OG PS4 would have been enough. I just think Sony wasted a ton of money on hardware that really wasn't needed.

morganfell186d ago

Exclusives on a system that has said exclusives, and blockbuster sized ones at that, will naturally overshadow another system that regardless of hardware does not have any true exclusives. I buy a particular platform because I can play certain games on that platform. I do not buy the platform...for the platform.

Games > Hardware

Ashlen186d ago (Edited 186d ago )

@moldybread

You act like people talking about games is something new. People have been talking about the exclusives since before the Scorpio and Pro were even announced.

And the exclusive gap isn't a new thing in 2016 PS4 had around 4:1 more retail exclusives, and in 2015 it was around 3:1

And even before this generation people talked about how Microsoft stopped making games during the end of 360 lifespan while Sony kept pushing out great games for PS3 until the very end of the generation. I mean PS3 got Persona 5 just a week ago.

I and many others were pointing this out years ago. The thing that actually changed is the motivation of Xbox fans to downplay the lack of games available on Xbox vs PS that they find damaging to the Scorpio.

@XanderZane

"Sony wanted a system that could improve on the PS4, which is fine, but why release a PS4 Slim as well, when the OG PS4 was already Slim?"

Because the Slim cost less to manufacture and allowed them to lower the cost to consumers. The PS4 was $350-400 the Slim is $200-250.

JasonKCK185d ago (Edited 185d ago )

The only people talking about the next gen Xbox are sites comparing it to the Pro, and making future predictions. Rumors of a "PS5 in 2018" popped up as soon as Scorpio's specs were announced to be better. There was even a "secret sauce" period that some ran with. All this before and after the Pro launch. What's the difference? Xbox fans are only talking about the Scorpio.

Nice try ShadowKnight but it's all about Scorpio.

Artemidorus185d ago

Throwaway millenials that want the latest.

Got a feeling the word 'retro' will be almost extinct in the future years

Kingcorey13185d ago

Because more people care about PlayStation. That's why Xbox gets smacked down year after year. So people are going to want to know what's next.. i wonder why so many Xbox players are suddenly so worried about power lately... lol

Kingthrash360185d ago

Moldy,
So it's ok for MS to overshadow the ps4p, but you snark at anyone else doing the same?
Like literally they busted out with the scorpio at e3 to over shadow the pro....that lied about "true 4k" when the pro was announced, now they touted about it being the strongest console ever made....all before the console launches....still like 6 months to go....smh

Fanboi logic kills me

Death185d ago

@Morgan,

Are you saying we should all be buying a Nintendo Switch? Zelda is probably the best launch game to come out in a very long time and the list of exclusives look very good.

moldybread185d ago

@Kingthrash
"So it's ok for MS to overshadow the ps4p, but you snark at anyone else doing the same?"

they get paid to do it.

"Like literally they busted out with the scorpio at e3 to over shadow the pro....that lied about "true 4k" when the pro was announced, now they touted about it being the strongest console ever made....all before the console launches....still like 6 months to go....smh"

and 6 months ago you were just as pessimistic as you are today, meanwhile the people at digital foundry who have praised the ps4 pro and still do analysis all the time are ecstatic about scorpio. how strange how they are excited and you aren't. i wonder why.

"Fanboi logic kills me"

then perhaps you should take a break from it.

morganfell185d ago

Death,

Over an Xbox of any kind? Yes. Over a PS4? No. The Switch cannot compete with the PS4 in terms of exclusives.

And Zelda looks good? If you say so. I would rather know how a game plays versus how it looks. Plenty of great looking titles that I could not complete because the gameplay was trash. In this day and age we should, from AAA developers and publishers, have both. Yet still we have hollow shells of games such as Star Wars BF that was nothing more than a placeholder for a sales receipt.

andrewsquall185d ago (Edited 185d ago )

@darthv72 And yet you are an individual who will be buying Xbox's next gen console that will be out after Scorpio........ DAY ONE, even if it is WAY over expensive for its power and comes with a camera.
Yeah, you are REALLY the person to look to who should be saying nonsense about the masses waiting patiently.

And then you have fellow circle jerk fanboys like moldy above talking about inane comments from PS4 fans about games and that its "all they want to talk about" when it comes to loving their GAMES console. And then your comment showed up in the same thread lol.

bluefox755185d ago

It's a big deal, Sony is leading the console industry currently, a lot of people want to know and are speculating.

XanderZane185d ago (Edited 185d ago )

@Silly gameAr
Hhmm.. Microsoft hasn't started the next-gen, Nintendo did. They are currently leading the 9th generation with almost 2 million Switches sold.

@Ashlen
The OG PS4 will cost about the same price as the PS4 Slim in 2018. The hardware is pretty much exactly the same. There was really no need for a PS4 Slim. If anything they should have saved the Slim model for the PS4 Pro. What a waste of money.

Dragonscale185d ago

So much for 'powah doesn't mattah'.

Uken12185d ago

So by the time PS4 has made it's run, we will have a total of 10 real games for it.

I also wonder why people care so much about the next system when all 3 companies have flopped when it comes to games.

Make games, not a new system for Netflix.

Gamer4lifz185d ago (Edited 185d ago )

@moldy
what's funny is that you think Scorpio will have any kind of impact on gamers or Sony (pro didn't at all because gamers go for the ps4slim and developers target base ps4 as lead system)
gamers don't care about mid gen upgrades and non of them is talking about ps5 since we are not not even halfway through this gen yet
the only ones who i keep see bring up ps5 is gaming media
this gen still have 3-4 years in it before ps5 launch
it was very slow starting gen as it is.

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3-4-5185d ago

2019/20 was already the speculated date of the PS5 before the PS4 even released.

It was said by a few ( can't find the quote), but it made it's rounds years ago where insiders basically told us this gen is a "stop gap" gen until the "real next gen" is actually here.

* Tech was about to take a huge boost/jump and it finally has in the past year so the future of console gaming can finalyl start to form but there was a nice little 4-6 year gap that had to be filled by something because you can't have the PS3/Xbox 360 use tech from 2002/3 and still be the main console in 2017.....

So we have the PS4/XB1/WiiU..........

Nintendo with the Switch is the first console to really start in that direction...also PS4 Pro & XB1 Scorpio are also headed kind of there as well.

* I say just enjoy what we get for now until next gen. Make the most of what is created for us to experience.

_-EDMIX-_185d ago

"Nintendo with the Switch is the first console to really start in that direction"

???

When did we start counting portables into home console generations?

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Mystogan185d ago

Lol, why is everyone already talking about ps5? The PS4 pro is only 6 months old.
Scorpio has got y'all Sony fanboys shook.

Rhythmattic185d ago

And scorpio is still 6 months away.

snoopgg185d ago (Edited 185d ago )

Not really, the pro is just fine for now.It has great visuals and the games support is better then any system out right now. I really don't think the sony fanboys are shook, its the xbots that have been shook all generation.

agent4532184d ago

Because Scorpio might be the next xbox and the PS4 Pro is nothing more nothing less than an overclock OG PS4. Does anyone really believe that Sony spend $500.00 to $600.00 to build the PS4 Pro in 3 years and sell it at a loss. That right there would be financial retardism .

Dragonscale185d ago

Scorpio is gonna struggle against PS4. PS5 will be a complete massacre.

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agent4532184d ago

2020 Xbox Game Pass replaces consoles 😸

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XMessiah23x186d ago

I prefer the mid console refresh. I like when a new console cycle comes out and it is mind blowing. The Snes to the PSX comes to mind.

Patriot4Life186d ago

Makes you wonder how far ahead of its time NinteNdo was when the released the expansion pack for the N64.

Doomeduk185d ago

Nope I remember buying 3.5k ram pack for Vic 20

Patriot4Life185d ago

Just googled what a Vic 20 is and dam thats ancient technology.

Well played sir .

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agent4532184d ago

Yeah overclock consoles for $400.00 plus tax huge victory for console gamers😰

XMessiah23x184d ago

If you think that is all Scorpio is you should pass on it. I on the other hand realize its not. Study up on the tech.

OB1Biker186d ago

'Destiny 2's gonna be one of these games that I expect five, six, seven years from now, people are still going to be playing that game. '
Ha

Gwiz186d ago

That's funny indeed lol.

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bluefox755185d ago

Why? Whether you like Destiny or not, you can't deny it's popularity. It's still massively popular, and it's not fading.

jznrpg186d ago

Pro is just about 5 , that is just dumb

MasterCornholio186d ago (Edited 186d ago )

Um the PS5 will be alot more than 5 teraflops.

You really believe the PS5 will be weaker than Scorpio?

TheVetOfGaming186d ago

Good troll...

It will be at least 12.

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agent4532184d ago

Full digital on 2020. Xbox game pass takes over. Follow by cloud gaming on 2025 or 2022. Digital gaming services will replace console hardware.

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