Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida has told VG247 that PS3 hasn't yet seen explosive fortunes in Japan because the right software hasn't yet been released for the machine.
The RPG problem, that ENDS December 25th.
But... then what? Besides wishful thinking that IU/SO4/ ToV are only timed exclusives, what else is coming within the next decade? FF13 and FF13V are hugely anticipated in Japan, sure, sure, but who knows if they'll stay exclusive, and for all we know, they haven't even started working on the gameplay yet. Name one other traditional jrpg exclusive that we've actually seen gameplay screenshots for, and I'll be happy, but really, Sony messed up big on rpgs this generation. TGS, please please pretty please give us something nice.
Everyone has messed up on RPGs this generation. I'm sick of all these pretend RPGs that are really action games in disguise. I don't want to shoot and slash people in real-time in every RPG I play, for me that's what used to seperate the RPG genre from all the shooters and slash-em-ups out there. There hasn't been a single traditional AAA RPG released for a while.
agree with u, what made JRPGs good is that when u r fighting u can take ur time to attack and in that time u can think of a strategy!! FF10 was 10 times better than FF12!! i want FF7 remake to be same fighting mechanism but only improved!
Yeah I loved FF10, I loved the way you weren't rushed to make your attacks, and you could see the order of turns. It added a whole layer of strategy which I loved. I never beat penance, though :( But I beat all the dark aeons, thought they were impossible when I first tried (and didn't know how you could pick off the magus siters 1 by 1)
I agree with Thor. RPGs in general is completely messed up. Too often we are getting RPGs that try to be different in a unnecessary way. Straying away from a good formula. Most people would be pretty satisfied with extremely awesome visuals, and a few knick knacks here and there. It seems developers are now just pushed into a corner because if they make a traditional RPG, they will be accused of lack of innovation. If they make it different, then it strays too far away from the formula. Nobody is pleased. However, WKC hopefully is looking to blend the two better than the RPGs out so far. What do I mean? I'm talking about the fighting system. It's still somewhat turn-based but at the same time real-time. But then again, there's still not enough information on it to be conclusive. But knowing Level-5's history with RPGs, it's looking hopeful. But one last thing is that RPGs and other genres are mixing up for a reason. Sales. Currently the biggest sellers are shooters, at least in the U.S. Developers, even japanese ones cannot deny that force. They want a piece of that pie. So that's why they make those RPGs blended with western style game mechanics.
Agree with you. I loved FF10`s battle system. I think the more real-time RPG stuff we`ve been seeing is an attempt to bring more people into RPG`s (by being real time and more free roaming) and because developers "want/has to" do something new with the genre itself.
The story wasn't as good as X but they did a good job of disguising the ATB from previous games and adding the gambit system to set up things according to how you wanted to play the game. If you didn't like the gambit you could still play old school by stoping time when you brought up the menu, plan and then attack. The battle system from X was awesome too don't get me wrong. I think the problem this generation with RPG's is that it seems to lack the kind of polish you would expect coming from RPG's. I think the reason why people are looking forward to White Knight and FFXIII is because Level-5 and Square-Enix usually take their time to make quality games. When I think of games like FFVII, FFX, Xenogears, Chrono Trigger, FFVI, Dragon Quest they are just very polished, quality games and thats why they are always mentioned to being the best we have ever seen. Those are my 2 cents.
WELL GET SOME DAMN JRPG'S ON THE SYSTEM THEN! Thankfully White Knight Story is being released in Japan in December. Lord only knows how many units that game will push, especially because Level 5 is an acclaimed Japanese developer. I'm glad they are at least recognizing this problem. Now the only thing left to do is to fix the issue with "actions", instead of talk-talk with "words".
if they know because of lack of JRPGs then why they didnt secure enough of them?? well any way i see they start to recognize this problem with release of Disgaea 3 and white night story this year, but its not enough!! at least 4 is needed every year!! does anyone know if FF13 will be released this year in japan?? i know they said that but we didnt get any date release yet and its end of september!!
I agree with you. I starting to get a little disheartened by the lack of rpg's right now. I'm looking forward to White Knight Chronicles but seriously...one rpg won't cut it.
It's two years too late. [email protected] pompous fools...Why now Sony? You were king of RPGs in the PS2 era. Now all you do is sit on your high chair thinking "Oh consumers are gonna buy our products because it's a Sony's PS3". Well, guess what? I didn't.
Oh patch, you're so retarded! It's like a lovable retardation though, just so cute!
Eternal Sonata is coming this October. Thats two. Valkyrie is also upon us soon. And then Whiteknight. Probably the BIGGEST RPG to hit any console next to FF13. And after whiteknight, hopefully ICO game. And after that FF13. Plenty to look forward to. The power of the PS brand means that we get to enjoy every genre because the PS3 is diverse with plenty of triple A titles for everyone.
the rpgs will come...it just takes time...the 360 just started getting all these rpgs and its going on 3 years now...my assumption is we are gonna see ps3 rpgs around the same time...ps3 is only in year 2...but its pretty obvious that western games have taken over and become way more popular
And I would love to see a really good one released. A title like FFX and FFVII with their compelling story, awesome characters and turn based combat. I still love the huge, elaborate moves in FFX. I also loved games like Skies of Arcadia and Grandia, I wish they would do remakes of them too!
two words...Lost Odyssey.
why would you want a remake ? just go play the original on psone and treat yourself. thats what i did. i recently bought the resi psone series from ebay and , even though resi 1's graphics are crap today, i still enjoyed myself very much ...it was the highlight of this last week ...finishing resi 1 and 2 back to back! oh the nostalgia!
"Lost Odyssey." No please. No. LO wasn't that great. Glitchy visuals, unstable frame rate, and boring story. Sorry, I played some of the beginning of the game. And that damn part where there's a bunch of reading for Kaim's dream totally killed it. Sure some people like it, and it's generally a solid RPG than some others. But it's nowhere near what a true "next-gen" RPG should be.
I feel you missed out. Lost Odyssey is a good game. Its about as traditional as it gets. If you want a traditional turn-based JRPG, you can't go wrong with this game. The Dream sequences could be skipped, so that really didn't take away from the game at all. Its an optional thing to flesh out the story. The game was solid overall. That's about all you can really ask for. I'm not certain what a true next gen RPG would be.
3 or 4 good japanese games and they'll start eating those ps3's up...what they need is....is.....LittleJapanesePla net.
True. The ps3 is a year behind the x360 so it's just that we see those rpg's and we get anxious for ours. I agree that FFX was way better the FF12, one of my favoritestestest game from last gen. I sold it back to gamestop and had to buy it back a few months later to play it all over again.
This is what frustrates me about Sony sometimes. They KNOW what the issue is yet they aren't doing enough (coughing up the money) to get these games on their system. It's not like they don't know the type of games Japanese people want to play but they aren't releasing them or even securing any type of exclusive deal. I personally think that Sony needs to reach into their pockets and buy more of SE stock--maybe up to 30-35%. Maybe even a controlling share. It may be a lot up front, but in the long run it would pay off. Unfortunately, with Japanese game development focusing more on the US and Europe, Sony will have to do something drastic to ensure that Japanese companies continue their long-term support of Sony. I've been a vocal critic of the hypocrisy of SE, specifically their "we'll support all systems equally--except for releasing exclusive or timed exclusives for the 360." But as game development costs ramp up, loyalties mean less and the old adage of "it's nothing personal, it's business" becomes the new mantra.
But...but...it's the year of the PS3!
It is, that's why year to date the PS3 has outsold the 360 with it's higher price tag.
White Knight Chronicles - December 25 "2008"
but teh cell Ok I am kidding.
I honestly dont know why Sony is being so lazy in Japan. The reason I bought a PS3 was for exclusive Japanese developed games and so far I have barley seen anything. Its a shame because I was one of the people so PUMPED that the PS3 was region free, yet 2 years later, there is not ONE game worth importing. I just wish that Sony would treat the PS3 like the PSP in Japan where it sees ENDLESS Japanese support. (Why is Parasite Eve 3 on the damn PSP? it should be PS3!!) Its sad that so many great series have been reduced to portables. I hope Japanese developers hop on the PS3 bandwagon soon, because I am tired of all this "Western Trash games" this gen. I REALLY hope this gen is LOOOOONG because without any Japanese games, this can pretty much be the WORST console generation IMO.
A lot of Japanese gamers are mainly waiting for FFXIII before buying a PS3. I'm sure that the Final Fantasy Advent Children PS3 bundles that include the FFXIII demo coming in March 09 will lead to VERY explosive PS3 sales. Last generation the PS2 was supported with tons of Japanese developers and Last gen. Sony really depended on 3rd party developers to support the PS2 with JRPG's and RPG's because I can't recall many PS2 JRPG's/RPG's that Sony themselves published. A lot of those same Japanese developers that supported the PS2 aren't there for the PS3 yet... it could be the PS3's more expensive development cycle and complex architecture and the ease of developing for the 360.... but I'm guessing that Sony just needs to reach out more to 3rd party developers to get them more familiar with the PS3 and more 3rd party support would come. Since Sony doesn't have a 1st party developer making JRPG's for them, they need to take full advantage of the relationship with Level 5.
at least some of the truth is coming out from Sony headquarters. I wish them the best with PS4.
The only RPG I've played recently that is even close to being as good as the ones of old, is Crisis Core. Zack is just too awesome. Developers have forgotten what makes an awesome hero. Look at the main character in Infinite Undiscovery. He's a whiny little baby. I turned the game off after five minutes because he literally told the girl who was rescuing him to leave him there because he didn't ask to be rescued from his jail cell. What kind of hero is that? Emo to the max. I really hope White Knight Story is awesome. I can't handle another Emo hero. All the PS3 needs is games with a good story, and a hero that people can identify with.
...that game was made for western tastes. Now if the B&B corps were made out of women with cat-eared hair-do's and Snake had a gun that show out penis monsters, then that game would've sold out in Japan... but Westerners would ban the game because sex is dangerous but bloodshed is good somehow. What a world.