In which Gamasutra goes to Microsoft, takes an in-depth look at the Project Scorpio dev kit and sits down to chat with Xbox chief Phil Spencer and other folks involved with its design.
The dev kit looks pretty cool. I wouldn't mind if the consumer version looked similar to that.
Scorpio will definitely have a similar design. Rich Leadbetter (DF) says he was very impressed with what they showed him, and he hopes MS shows it to the public the same way it was shown to him.
Why did 2 people vote that down?
@Lawgone Dunno..Maybe they're unhappy. who knows?
Yeah it looks fine but personally I'd prefer something a little bit more "fresh" than the plain boxy design, perhaps a beveled top with a nice industrial design and subtle but quality looking LED pattern, while everything else looks the same as X1, you know kind of look as it's the same console but makes you see visually that its a significant upgrade too.....I know it's not a big deal and completely unnecessary just thinking out loud.
I done think it will look live the Dev kit. More like the one behind it to the left.
It looks like an eraser! Please no. All they have to do is look at the Nvidia Shield for inspiration.
No the og ps4 looks like an eraser. This looks good
mmmmm: Oh the irony! lmao!
If Scorpio can achieve the option 1080/60fps and 4k/30fps or unlocked i'm sold.
Ask your local devs for the option.
@OMG, well they need the hardware capable of giving us said resolution and framerates.
Hoping it has some sick LED's that change the consoles color depending on which game is being played. Maybe add a spoiler too, with an hood scoop.
From the picture the developer kit looks to be slightly bulkier than the Xbox One S. So my expectations are that Scorpio (whatever external design it has) will also be around that size (much smaller than the original and slightly larger than the S).
Great article here. People need to check out the led on the devkit it says 60 fps on there. Thats cool devs get the information like that. " “One of the things that's been really encouraging to us is, most people who are used to doing hardware bring-up, usually its a couple weeks to get games just physically running on it, let alone at performance. What we've seen with some of the middleware partners, the first-party and third-party partners, people have actually been able to come in, get their game running, and running at 4K, in less than a day,” said Ronald." Less then a day? Impressive
Yeah i saw the part about 60fps and Games running in 4K in a day? Amazing. . " it can be toggled to replicate Xbox One, One S, or Scorpio, and incorporates a host of devs’ requested changes." "You can just write to the original set of [Xbox One] requirements that we have today, and then we'll do the work to make sure that it actually runs better. But [developers] don't have to do any custom work for Scorpio." cant wait for the reveal.
People need to take off their sony glasses and give props where its due. This involves getting games on the system. The things trolls have been on this site saying they "wish" xbox had.
Sadly, that'll never happen here.
People look at the company and its history, not a console. Microsoft needs to create a new history that brings back confidence. Most people trolling the Scorpio actually have stronger valid points than those defending it... Everybody is wearing sunglasses. "Give props"... for what? Spending the last year talking about a new console over any real reason to invest into their gaming business like games? I understand there are the "fans"... but those fans were so small, that they are having to rebrand their gaming decisions. These decisions are still not building confidence and since NOTHING has been showing that is new, there is no props to give. There are only those that hope that it will be worth the purchase, those that are frothing at the mouth to brag about the differences(of which they spent the last 3 years saying games not power, and those that are waiting for Microsoft to actually prove they are in the gaming business and not going to monopolize their way to have the gaming business.
Rude-ro, stop replying to my comments and following me man lol. We know where your allegiance is and what your comment history says. We get it. Bye.
No one implied that it wasn't impressive but let's see Microsoft step it up with games.
It's super impressive. I can't wait to see it with running games made for it like forza 7 and Modor
Damn a 4k native 60fps Modor game is making me drool right now. I'm just thinking about the details and the action. I loved the first game and the performance of the game wasn't the best on the XB1. Game was a lot of fun though. Now it's going to be even more incredible
@rude-ro And what's wrong with their history? Seems to me the og xbox and 360 were loved by millions. The x1, while not as loved, isn't as hated as you hive mind drones like to pretend. As far as "giving props" only the truest of haters would deny them that. They were knocked for delivering a system that was considered under powered by sony enthusiast. Scorpio is going back to their roots, and that is having a very powerful system to play games on. Just because you seem to think their game library sucks, that doesn't make it so, nor does that mean your avg gamer thinks that as well. "nothing shown that is new...." yeah oooooooooooooooooook. You're in full denial. Consistent native....I repeat, NATIVE 4k, HDMI 2.1, and atmos support are new features. The ease of development is also groundbreaking. You act as though they're simply releasing a slim version of the x1. "There are only those that hope that it will be worth the purchase, those that are frothing at the mouth to brag about the differences(of which they spent the last 3 years saying games not power, and those that are waiting for Microsoft to actually prove they are in the gaming business and not going to monopolize their way to have the gaming business." Games do matter, but thankfully, we'll have games and the power to wow us. You know, the fact we don't get JRPG's doesn't really make us in xboxland all that sad. See, both companies offer good to great exclusives. Sony doesn't own the market in that respect. Yeah, MS is the big bad evil corp. So odd that an "anti-consumer" company(which is what your ilk called it back in 2013) would give us a heads up that a better system than the s would release. Strange this evil business would work towards having customers carry their games forward to a new system rather than make us buy them again. Yet the company behind rootkit, and the one that tried it's best to screw nintendo over, and one that filed a patent for DRM is the white knight of the gaming world. Newsflash, sony doesn't love you or care about you. Hope that doesn't rock your world too much.
So the lines between next and mid gen is quite blurry now.
Nice to hear Spencer say they are already working on next gen though. That means they're thinking about where the Scorpio will position compared to next gen. I'm guessing next gen will be very robust hardware wise.
Yes, which is a good thing. They are already thinking about the next gen XBox before the Scorpio even releases. @annoyedgamer Well we'll know how expensive it will be because the PS5 will probably be out before the Scorpio 2.
No it isnt blurry. The next gen machines will use something akin to a Zen CPU, Vega GPU, 3D stacked RAM, and will have numbers that far surpass Scorpio and PRO. Microsoft is doing a very good job making you think otherwise.
What are gens called on PC?
343_Guilty_Spark--- THERE ISNT ANY
Technically they no longer exist on Xbox either.
There are no generations on PC, which is why most gamers don't like to compare console games to PC. Consoles are a stagnate system, while PC's are constantly being upgraded.
For MS there is no "next-gen", that's what some of you don't understand. Sure, MS's next console will be even more robust, but it wont be a "new generation" in the historical sense.
The next XBox console after Scorpio will be part of the 9th generation along with the Switch and PS5.
It is if u want to make it. Listening is a good skill to have
Its funny to me seeing it on a server rack. They look to be really focus on 60fps as a standard.
Looooooks goooooood...gimme a price
Believe me you don't want to know the premium price yet
Lol, said the guy who says he has a nvidia 1080 video card that he will have paid more for.
I'm talking about for casual gamers. The price will be to high. Nice try though Moldy. They can buy a Xbox one S for cheaper since it will play the same games. 😅 Btw I've showed people on here I have a gtx 1080 including the infamous Rookie_monster.
Ahhh...but for "casual gamers", MS has a console called the Xbox One S and it will most likely be $199 and plays all the games Scorpio will this holiday haha. Give it up dude...you're not good enough to match your hate levels...
Shadow you are trying way too hard trying to downplay anything good about Scorpio. First you act like it's of no use to PC gamers such as yourself and now you want to be the voice of reason for the casuals out there that's it's going to be overly expensive.
@moldy Just ignore him. since the Scorpio spec reveal he has been working overly hard to downplay it. his insecurity is showing.
I will be spamming that pre-order button on amazon durimg MS show at E3. Day one
Me too two Scorpio on my basket second I can pre order
I'd be all over that.
Lol its a long shot but Im sticking with my guns on the prediction. Just trying to have some fun with it.
I have a feeling that'll be one the bombshells at E3. Base 1 TB model starting at $399. Another one I think will happen is, OG Xbox BC
The gif they posted where the components expand, it looks as if everything is reversed from the S, but they state all the connections are aligned. Either way, looks to be about = in size to the S with a lot more going on inside. Just need E3 to hit so I can pre-order. Pulled $ aside as soon as the tax return hit. Mind says $500, heart says $400.
My luck says 500, my wallet is hoping for 400.
The components really shouldn't cost that much by the time mass production hits. I think there's more in customisation than component. We might be paying more for labor than parts if the price is high. $500 does make sense tho, but I just have a feeling they're going to announce $400.
I hope you're right. I'm have a feeling $400 is what they will settle at. Just think of the massive bombshell that would be. They've talked about wanting to win devs back just a few days ago. What better way to do that than to have a massive attach rate for your new system.
Retail unit will have the same or smaller footprint as the Xbox One S.
It looks like an Xbox One S and there are people saying that this is a " new generation" lol
Weak, and you do know this is a dev kit right? After that comment, your name hence forth will be "duh" instead of "bruh"
I get all consoles so I def will get Scorpio. I'm liking what I'm hearing hardware wise. Hope they keep pushing forward and adding new features and giving gamers what they want (you can thank competition and Sony's *ss whipping for that). New info points to Microsoft implementing a new"self return refund" policy for Xbox one and beyond. That is great!!!
Aside from 4k one has to wonder what other improvements could be made, I mean there are things other than resolution.
Game by game basis I guess. Forza has even in ultra settings and in some areas misused quality settings and still has some head room left: "Clearly, there's still a large amount of GPU overhead left over on Scorpio, so where can the engine be taken from there? Turn 10 is still working on this, but the quality settings from Forza Motorsport 6 Apex on PC can be fully invoked on Scorpio. Turn 10 literally ramped up everything to ultra and it just worked, with the game retaining a 4K60 performance level. As well as validating the capabilities of the new console, we also get an insight into how some ultra-level settings may actually amount to a rampant misuse of PC GPUs' capabilities. "The crazy story here is that we've gone over our PC ultra settings and for everything that's GPU-related, we've been able to max it - and that's what we're running at, 88 per cent," says Tector, pointing to the utilisation data at the top of the screen. Right beneath it is the anti-aliasing setting - 4x, or rather 8:4x using the Radeon EQAA hardware AA. "This is rendering the player LOD for every car, so you won't see a single LOD pop. [It's the] top-level model you'd see in race, one below what you see in Autovista, the model you usually only see for the player. And then we balance out LODs across the scene. It's a disgusting abuse of GPU power is what it is, right?"" http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
The double amount of RAM for a dev kit is unheard of......Devs will be able to debug anything with ease.
People are still retarded for calling this a midgen upgrade. I CAN'T, STOP, LAUGHING.
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