It isn’t a mystery why 4k televisions have become a widespread "must have". Having four times as many pixels as a 1080p TV, the results are a much more detailed and richer image.
My opinion. Budget: Samsung KU6300 (2016) MU6300 (2017) Premium: Samsung KS8000 Extreme: LG B6
It's hard to beat a Samsung nowadays!
I agree. I have the KU6300 in both the living room and bedroom. They're both great. Nice picture and low input lag. The Samsung KS8000 is even better. Still I would get the LG B6 OLED over anything if it were cheaper. I do always do my research using rtings.com but you also have a nice article and some great choices listed.
Yes! I got the un65ks9000 and I'm LOVIN' it!!!! :O
My issue with the 6300 is its not a wide colour gamut. So the HDR isn't as good. But it's a great TV for the price.
extreme is Sony Z9D
Dead-on. The B6 looks great, but the B7 is right around the corner...
I got the new Samsung Q7 and its amazing. But might be too expensive for the casual https://www.amazon.com/Sams...
I got the LG B6. Best TV Ive ever owned. I dont ever want an LED with its grey "blacks" again.
OLED is still LED. I have a crappy Vizio LED that has black blacks. Most low-end LEDs have been able to handle that fine for the last 3 or 4 years. What they lack compared to the higher end sets is color contrast.
I'd wait for the Q4 2017 linup It might have HDMI 2.1 which Is a huge +
People will wait for them to drop in price. 4K is good for now. 8K, 10k is years away.
I need one for my living room. Q4 2017 can't come soon enough
Most of the HDMI 2.1 specs are for stuff your screen is unlikely to support. 4K at 120fps, for example...it's unlikely that the bulk of TVs...even those offering HDMI 2.1... will move beyond a native refresh of 60Hz anytime soon, because there's just no demand for it. 10K? We're many years away from that being an actual thing on CE devices...nobody outside the professional world, working with MASSIVE displays, cares about it. Dynamic refresh could be nice and is probably the only meaningful near-term upgrade, but there's no mandate for an HDMI 2.1 set to actually support it. It just means that HDMI won't be the limiting factor. People need to understand that just because a standard SUPPORTS something, does not mean that the TV leveraging it will take advantage of it. HDMI 2.1 TVs will still be 4K, not 10K, for example. It will be interesting to see this unfold. I could see a scenario where many consumer TV manufacturers pretty much ignore the spec and stick to HDMI 2.0a. Computer monitors will surely offer it though. You could hook up your new Scorpio to one easy enough.
+frostypants HDMI 2.1 Is not just about the resolution + FPS, It's about the extra bandwidth to push for a higher output color format and detail (4K+ HDR 4:4:4) with dynamic metadata support + Freesync without requiring an extra module, all done on the protocol level. HDMI 2.0 Is maxed out at the moment, and current Dolby Vision + HDR10 are limited to only YUV 420 @4K. Btw the Freesync support from the Xbox Scorpio Isn't specific to the console, every device with HDMI 2.1 will have Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) support since It will be an HDMI 2.1 feature. I could go on and on but you should get the picture here.
KS9000 65" here! Was worth it and will stay in this house until I get super rich one day! Might have some value in reselling it as well due to the 12-bit HDR and 4K and good input lag :) Question to KS9000 users: what settings do you use on PS4 Pro? Do you use RGB and 2160p Full Range on both HDR games too? I read somewhere YUV with Limited Range should be the only way to see full 12-bit HDR. But this was most likely a PS4 Pro issue, not the TV set's.
I have the 65 inch KS9000 and I use RBG with full range.
The hell is a 12 bit panel? LOL
@Hardiman Thanks for the info! What kind of settings do you use? Do you just put the Game mode on? I think the HDR looks better on YUV and on limited range and colors set to auto instead of native (it messes up the HDR dynamic, I think the native tries to reproduce the HDR for non-HDR content, just like HDR+ or something). I'm also experiencing huge brightness issues with games when using Dynamic Contrast. It's pretty painful in The Witcher 3 on RGB, but the black look so washed out on YUV so I put blacks to low on RGB and adjust the brightness on dark areas. But overall the image looks brilliant. Upscaling is really good on the TV so 1080p games on PS4 Pro' 4K framebuffer look great on KS9000, despite the internal rendering resolution being lower than 2160p. @Bruh The panel has capability to do 12-bit range of HDR, which is a pretty significant improvement over the typical 8-bit range from previous "HDR" sets. Basically more shades and more vivid colors.
I have the ks9000. It's great. But it's not 12 bit hdr. It's 10. And the tv doesn't upscale anything when in game mode. I like your enthusiasm for this great tv. But please do your homework before singing it's praise. On a different note: this whole article is so poorly written, it's a joke. They too should have done their homework
@Hardiman Thanks for your reply! It has been said that technically KS9000 is capable of 12-bit HDR, even though it is not out there yet. It is considered a 10-bit panel as of now and you are right about that. I meant the 10-bit in games, and 12-bit in other applications (non-game mode) in the future, I communicated that poorly. According to Digital Foundry, at least the KS8000 is upscaling the image, however, they did not specify on which mode. (they probably meant only PS4 Pro on 1080p mode and that is from the menu as that is supposed to change the buffer too. I checked out the AVforums and such globally and locally, and it seems that there is a lot of post processing and scaling going on with the tv all the time, but it is hard to say how much and when. For example when the frame buffer is 4K on the console, I guess the TV won't affect the internal resolution, which is what the scaling chip does in the console by using checkerboard or temporal scaling (like in Ratcher & Clank.) To be honest, I'm not entirely satisfied with the KS9000, I'd like a much faster UI, better tuning options and a much better HDR indicators of when it is 8bit and when 10bit and how can I know it without physically measuring it (which I'm not too keen to do, not interested in calculating pixels). Just to note, I'm not a technical person and am piecing stuff together just by myself. And as this is not a test, I don't think I need to do too much homework, just trying to awoke discussion. As of now, nobody has answered my question about the ideal settings either...
Got a 55UH9500 (55uh950V depending on where you are). Love it!
If anyone is having issues on which one to get I recommend Rtings.com if you want informative info . Me I went with a Samsung KS9000 awesome .
What's the difference with the KS8000 and KS9000?
From the info provided the 8000 has a slight streak of flutter when things are thrown or moving quickly. Aside from that my main care was that it was right size ,had everything I need for gaming for when Scorpio release
I got the 55" Samsung KU6500 for my room. It's a very nice upgrade from 1080p, and games on XB1S are notably better. I'll be getting a 75"-85" top of the line around Black Friday to go with the Scorpio. Damn!!! I can't freaking wait!!
I have question. I don't have an Xbox One S, I have the original fat model. I have 49 inch LG 4K UH6030. I know that's nothing to brag about, but the picture on it is amazing. I decided one day to turn on the HDR feature and I noticed that my games look far superior whenever I use it. I don't experience any of the lag that I hear people describe either. I guess the tv set is a diamond in the ruff for its price. I thought only the Xbox One S could benefit from HDR, so why does it also help games look better on the original Xbox One? This is also why I decided to wait for the Scorpio.
I have a LG 49uh6500 and the games looks fantastic on it , especially if the HDR is on. I think the input lag is around 20 ms even in the HDR game mode.
Dude that tv has a great picture. People always say Samsung's budget 4k tv's are better but I don't think that's true at all. LGs budgets sets are great and outperform Samsung's line in picture quality, hdr is a draw and after the January update lg is pretty much even or better in input lag. But honestly almost any 4k set looks amazing
Picked up a Samsung ks8000 at the beginning of the year. I finally got to really test it with Ps4 pro and Horizon. It was simply amazing. I found myself toggling the hdr feature on/off to really see the difference. The hype is definitely real!
just picked one up today from costco... Sale on the 55 inch for 979.99!!
LG OLED #1 Samsung Quantum Dot #2 Anything else #3 and beyond Btw stay far away from Sony TVs, they are pure trash. Google Sony red line or Sony vertical line, doesn't matter the year or tech these TVs are plagued with discolored lines. I was unaware of this until a coworker mentioned his 1 year old Sony TV had this and he's outside the warranty. I opened a can of worms trying to help him diagnose the issue.
I'm just waiting on improved input lag on the OLED screens. Sammy still has the lowest