After taking a hit from the rise of Western developers and a sluggish market at home, Japanese game developers appear to be getting their mojo back.
Nioh, Persona 5, Nier Automata, Gravity Rush 2, Resident Evil 7.....damn. Japanese developers strikes back. :D
The Last Guardian, Final Fantasy XV (my fav game of 2016 alongside DOOM and Uncharted 4).
It's about time a article that shows some one gets it. Send a copy to Square Enix. Just be yourself and do what you do best. Stop trying to be a jack of all trades! Stop trying to be a western developer. P.S. I have been trying to say most games in Japan went to Handhelds especially Turn based JRPG's. This article show's that most have went there by the numbers. So connect the dot's we now have far and away the largest company of those handheld games being made on a hybrid console/handheld. Happy days are here again (in a about 1.5 years).
Agreed! Yes they are, while they might have been on the mend last generation, trying to figure things out and how they fit in the global industry, this gen they're back with incredible titles and some games are "un-apologetically" Japanese and that's how we like them.
I'd say they never went away. Granted it's been a hard hitting as of late but some Great Japanese games have been rolling out last gen onward.
I hope so; there's a lot of RPG's coming to the Switch and it would be great to see people hop on into becoming multiconsole owners for that reason.
I really see the potential of the Switch being the go to console for japanese role playing games.
Yeah, let's ignore the system that's having a pretty good year as far as jrps are involved.
Ignoring a system?? I'm going to chalk that up as sarcasm, has to be.
Just too bad there already is a "go to console" for JRPGs.
"the Switch being the go to console for japanese role playing games." SMMFH good thing the market place isn't dictated by your vision.
I see there has been a lot of feelings being hurt these past couple of days. So i can understand some of you rushing in to defend ps4 when you might sense the slightest bit of possible defamatory remark. Hey Xabi, it would help that when you quote someone you quote the whole statement. I see the POTENTIAL, not it will be the go to console. Huge difference.
@silly-don't worry this dude is always desperately trying to downplay the PlayStation. I think it's hilarious that anybody would be calling that platform and go to system for RPGs if you consider it's also missing the main Final Fantasy as well as the main Kingdom Hearts and just a complete list of other titles that it will not be receiving.
Its not wat you said.. Its your history on N4G and bias against Sony and the PS4.. We aint fools man.
@nowitzki "Its not wat you said" Oh, well the that makes perfect sense. Especially when this isn't even a ps4 specific article. Its about Japanese games. "We aint fools man." Not fools, but lack of reading comprehension and getting upset over something that wasnt said about your ps4 makes you all something far worse and "idiots" is to nice of a word. And speaking of lack of comprehension and understanding here come edmix... "...desperately trying to downplay the PlayStation." Are you really this sad? Did i mention anything bad about the PS4? "...anybody would be calling that platform and go to system for RPGs " Except...NO ONE called it at that. Seriously and literally no one here called it that. It's amazing how little sense you when trying to join in on a discussion. I bet you just saw a couple of comments saying how i downplay the ps4 and just got school girl giddy with joy and just had to join in.
I think you guys ignored PS4 which the console helping JRPG.
Monkeyman said he HOPES to see rpgs come, i said it has POTENTIAL. And for some unknown reason that translates in the some of these minds that we are ignoring the ps4? Could it be that we are just looking at the jrpg support the 3DS recieved which is way more than the ps4 and hoping that that same potential comes to the Switch? Or is that still ignoring the PS4??
I haven't ignored anything. Just refer to Red's comment; it's my hope that people will become multiplatform owners for the sake of RPG's. Jesus, Sony fanboys really do think their system is the god of gaming, and that nothing can co-exist with it in the same sphere, don't they? There can be more than one go-to system for RPG's. Just as PS4 will have some RPG's the Switch won't, the Switch will have some RPG's that the PS4 won't, which will make it worth owning right alongside the PS4 as a main console, for RPG lovers at least. The Sony fanbase has become exceedingly arrogant as of late, and as an owner of a PS2 and PS3, I find such an attitude embarrassing, no matter how much one claims the sales justify it. If the fanbase were half as mature as Sony's president when dealing with other consoles, maybe there'd be fewer console wars in this gen, and I'd be more willing to pay for a PS4 on top of PS+ to interact with said fanbase. But noooo, I can't even come within a hundred yards of suggesting that any other system might have games just as good as what's on PS4, without the fanboys trying to twist my words and strangle me with them. smh.
That's a difficult reason if your multi console owner especially if you already own a PlayStation 4 as the majority of those RPGs have already existed on the PlayStation 4 in the first place. I would argue it's actually the other way around, as there's more PlayStation 4 RPGs that probably are not coming to the switch then coming to the switch and not coming to the PlayStation 4.
Too soon to make that argument when we haven't seen the hand that RPG makers are going to play. It's not a difficult reason at all, since the Switch, just like the PS4, will get many RPG's the other doesn't have. Heck, if it follows the 3DS, far as dev support goes, then that's a certainty. It's already got a Tales Of title on the way (and it will be just as valid a purchase on Switch as anywhere), as well as a new Xenoblade and SMT, and Square recently teased a new game being developed for it, on top of stuff like Octopath Travelers, Dragon Quest, and Aeternoblade II, and much more. To say it's a difficult choice to own both when there's so many god reasons to do so, is just single-console-centric fanboy talk. Besides, right now, if someone really wants the full RPG round-out, they'd also own a 3DS, and maybe even a Vita. PS4 isn't the god machine you paint it as. It's a valid option, but not the only valid option. And it's certainly not the only go-to console for RPG lovers.
That'll be my primary use of the switch I'm sure. Still holding out hope that Monolith makes a return to Xenosaga, so hopefully Nintendo can work something out with Namco there.
A couple of games doesn't really equal a comeback. I would like to see a grand return in JRPG's. Games that we saw a lot more of last gen(s).
It's getting there.
I would say the comeback is with properties like Nioh. You would have to consider the other titles like Persona, Yakuza, Kingdom Hearts Collection or even Kingdom Hearts 3 Nier we're always going to release sequels, the real growth is happening from the new intellectual properties like Nioh. They could have cancelled that game, so I would say the comeback should be referring to the new properties we otherwise probably were not going to get. I'm not entirely sure I could say a comeback is from properties we probably were always going to get so I would like at least some good focus on the new properties that were seeing emerge. Akiba!!! Lol
Zelda breath of the wild, Metal gear solid 5, bloodborne, xenoblade chronicles, dark souls 3, RE7, Yakuza 5, nier automata, Nioh, dragon quest builders, Persona 5, gravity rush 2, guilty gears, naruto ninja storm 4, dragon Ball xenoverse, Mario kart, final fantasy 15, the last guardian. Those games above have been well received by critics and some have been commercial hits and there are quite a bit of them that succeeded both critically and commercially. I'm sure I left some other games out of that list but yeah, it's more than a " couple of games".
I dont think they've ever gone away or even had a slump. Its just with the rise of western game developers that have taken some of the attention away. I would tend to believe a larger amount of different types of games sells elsewhere, while in the US, the largest sales still seems to come from FPS and TPS games. Different tastes or interests i guess.
I missed that memo that stated Japanese games were exclusively jrpgs ;) Truth is Japanese games or games from that region never left us. The improvement of western developers didn't somehow eradicate games from Asia. There was a notion going around that the region was becoming less relevant/important. I think that was a misjudgement at best, projecting at worst. I know its a blanket kinda statement but a some factions appreciate and support games from that part of the world more than the other faction. Maybe its why their manufacturer of choice doesn't do 'more' to reap the benefits from said region. Sony does a better job than Nintendo in regards to nurturing outside of their native region so its not a given that approach works but we can see the benefits when it does. How can games being produced from all parts of the world be a negative or downplayed? Keep hearing this niche tag being banded around by many... some from a defensive standpoint and others from a downplay one.... I just call those games. Some are just more popular than others. Less popular doesn't mean less important, great or worthy but it just so happens that many games from Asia are more varied and/or are less popular. I've seen some attack the sales because of this. Halo wars 2 shouldn't be attacked for low sales; neither should gravity rush 2 . We should be celebrating unpopular games within the console market
So take into account how Japan dominated the market a few gens back and now look at today. No one is downplaying, people are actually hoping for the glory years when we had more games from Japan, El Shadai, Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata and even more when PS2, PS1 amd SNES were around. (Contra, Ikari Warrors, Ghost n Goblind) just to name of few that I loved and would love to see more of. Yes no doubt western developers have eclipsed Japanese games in every form possible, theres no arguement there. You say japanese games never went any where then why are we seeing less of them? Why are most of the japanese devs from the PS2, SNES,etc era now focusing on mobile or portable devices? Why do we come back here and comment how we wish so and so would bring back *____? So many great titles from japan have either been abandoned or moved to mobile. The niche label seems to be used A LOT to justify only japanese games and then used only when they fail or dont do the numbers everyome celebrates a western devs game for. And it has been used frequently here, so i have to wonder with the rise of the term niche when did Japanese games make a comeback? Even sony has catered, focused and promoted more of their Western developers than the ones they have in Japan. Sony has even given up making any type of JRPG for their own system. I keep reading japan is back and it couldnt be further from the truth. A couple of good games in succession from them THIS year doesnt mean they're back. I dont think anyone expects Japan to not put out a good game but the output of games, good ones, especially in the jrpg market has been less than stellar.
Agreed Good read
uh sure i guess *looks at my 3DS collection
3DS doesn't really have a good collection of jrpgs the only titles that I would like I've actually been Persona Q , Bravely Default series and Mario paper jam (amazing game by the way) and shin Megami tensei 4. If I literally just get sequels to the same games I be very much okay with the switches lineup. But neither are likely to even hold a candle to the PlayStation in regards to with onslaught of jrpgs it's literally like every other week there's some huge jrpg announced for the platform.
Uh. Fire Emblem Awakening Fire Emblem Echoes Fire Emblem Fates Shin Megami Tensei IV Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalpyse Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor II Etrian Odyssey IV Etrian Odyssey Untold I Etrian Odyssey Untold II Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam Bravely Default Bravely Second Kingdom Heart: Dream Drop Distance Tales of the Abyss Pokemon X & Y Pokemon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire Pokemon Sun & Moon Dragon Quest VII Dragon Quest VIII Final Fatnasy Explorers Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate Monster Hunter Generation Monster Hunter Stories Yokai Watch Yokai Watch 2 Yokai Watch 3 Persona Q Rune Factory 4 Stella Glow Dragon Ball Fusions 7th Dragon III Code: VFD Project X Zone Project X Zone 2 Fantasy Life Dragon Quest XI Xenoblade Chronicles 3D The Legend of Legacy Conception II
Yea, a lot those are not that great IMHO. I only own 5 from that list.
LOL "many of those games aren't that great." smh. Many of those games easily stack up to anything the PS4 has in terms of entertainment value, and that list doesn't even include all of the options, let alone list all the great DS RPG's it can also play. That's not to say that PS4 doesn't have a lot of RPG's worth having (because it does, and I really want one for KHIII if nothing else), but come on, stop trying to pull that "3DS isn't that great" bullshit.XD Nintendo's RPG list on 3DS is monstrous, and many of them are fantastic. I find it hilarious that you can downplay a system so heavily right after berating someone for supposedly downplaying the PS4. smh
japan is going through a renaissance period in games.
Well the Vita has been the longest time, a go to system, if wanting jrpg haven.
They never went away
PS4 is helping the cause.
Heck yes, besides 3 games everything else that I've bought on my PS4 are made by Japanese developers plus their games are more special.
There is nothing new exciting, I think there is no new really god like JRPG IP for more than 10 years now. Where are the Grandias, Terranigma, Chrono Trigger of the last 15 years? Japan can't make anything new exciting anymore yes there is Persona, Dark Souls, Final Fantasy, Residen Evil ect. but those games were always there and they were awesome last generation and long before this too but nothing new since at least PS2 generation. Japan is more than dead.
i guess persona 5 is nothing then.
Themba76 I said nothing new, yes the old IP's are good like they always were. But at the time when Japan and JRPGs were at their pinnacle at SNES and PS1,PS2 era there was almost every year at least 1 exiting completly new JRPG IP with distinctive art style great storys perfect soundtracks. The last noticeable decent new JRPG IPs were last generation Lost Odyssesy and Ni no Kuni, those were not the quality of JRPGs of the PS1 but good and at least something new but this also was years ago not the slightest decent new IP since than. This is just a sad state even worse than last generation which already was a far cry compared to the generations before.
The main problem with Japanese games is that they're made for a Japanese audience. I'm not saying a game should not be distinctly Japanese (I AM a Persona fan, after all, and that series is as Japanese as it gets), but most Japanese games are designed with the Japanese demographic to an extent that they alienate Western fans. If you see which Japanese franchises are the most succesful and best-selling in America (Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Persona, etc.), they are quite distinctly Japanese, yet they have themes and mechanics that give them universal appeal. Either that, or they have an ambiguous or universal feel (Souls series). Meanwhile, you have franchises which have or had lost their universal appeal and become notoriously disliked worldwide. Best example I can think of is the Final Fantasy 13 family of games. Those games were made with only the Japanese in mind, amd they are HORRID. The gameplay was dumbed down and made notoriously linear and handholding (the famous "corridor" or "tubes" gameplay) while the characters were made into typical anime cliches, in an obvious move to appeal to Japanese sensibilities, which had the result of alienating non-Japanese audiences. On a separate note, @#$% Konami. They were probably the game company with the most universally appealing franchises and they've become basically the Japanese EA now. If you're gonna adopt a Western attitude, don't emulate the worst Western game company of all, thank you very much.
When did they ever leave?
I don't know who said it's left? A lot of the games that have been releasing in the last couple months are sequels to existing properties with the exception of Nioh. There might be a greater focus on them because of all the releases that have been happening in Spring but like I said these are all existing properties with the exception of a few. If anything we would have to explain where they where the even know what they mean by 'back".
They never needed a comeback for me. I've been playing many great Japanese games for years.
They never went anywhere. It's just gamers finally realize that western AAA third party games are not creative, do the same exact thing in their yearly releases and the Japanese devs are the only ones besides indies that are doing something different.
dont call it a comeback they never left.
Hell yeah they are.. To me anyway.. 2 Tales of games, Yakuza, Nioh, persona, gravity rush, Nier, etc.. Loving it
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