Phil Spencer talks about his recent trip to Japan, Japanese games and first Chinese [email protected] title.
Xbox 360 got a number of exclusive/timed exclusive Japanese titles and most of them still flopped. Why would the situation be any different for Xbox One.
it wont make much difference but you guys keep whining about lack of diversity on the xbox yet dont buy them. he is also talking about japanese games that do well outside of japan like final fantasy because the xbox still has quite a big market (estimates are at 27 million).
As much time as you spend on N4G it's safe to assume to you don't buy any Xbox One games at all. Do your part.
@FITgamer "As much time as you spend on N4G it's safe to assume to you don't buy any Xbox One games at all. Do your part." i dont buy xbox one games but i did buy halo wars 2 on the pc, what did you buy?
Nice fit gamer. That was a burn like the Horizon zero dawn blast sling burn. He does a lot of defending Xbox which is fine. But claims he's a *PC* gamer. It's like "which is it man?" Lol! On topic: Phil should just do what seems to make more sense which is to work with more PC developers in porting their games to Xbox one. If Xbox is considered a more online centric system, then bring some of the top PC games and online games over with cross play to PC. Even though they shunned games in the past like FFXI, True fantasy live online, Marvel Universe online, etc. If they are trying to promote Xbox live, they should have worked on getting games like this over to Xbox.But again, they canceled Fable Legends, canceled Scale Bound. It's good that he's supposedly going to Japan to get Japanese support. But um.... ***You don't go there mid generation looking for it.***. Should have been something done before this generation started. Or, as soon as he became chief, he should have gone there after turning around the initial stupidity of those possible launch policies by going to Japan to make sure his alliances and reliance on Japanese third parties were solid. Either that or he should have funded a wholly owned and funded Japanese studio or studios to **make** Japanese games for Xbox one. It good to try. But it is a fail to go there years later asking for help. If this is the same guy who said http://www.mercurynews.com/... ***In a keynote address, Phil Spencer, head of Microsoft’s games division, announced five new partnerships with Japanese studios and declared the country’s creativity as key to the Xbox 360 console’s future. “Japanese games are the games that the world loves to play,” Spencer said, noting the Japanese origins of classic arcade games like Donkey Kong and Pac-Man.*** What happened Phil? This was 2010!!! You're the man in charge and you're just getting around to asking them over 3 years in from launch? What's his excuse? He's supposed to be THE MAN. He's not game division leader anymore. He's supposed to be THE LEADER.
Not many games to buy that are Japanese and most are on PS4 as well.
Let it be known that FITgamer is the real deal
FITgamer That was the response of the century.
@FITgamer it's not that he don't buy any XB1 games, it's just that there isn't really anything to buy at all on the XB1
@Fit Dang you have been playing tons of games. :) I can see why you own a PlayStation.
Moldy must be still crying after Fit gamer's response...
i was actually the first one the hit agree on fitgamer, thats because he puts his money where his mouth is unlike many of you guys who act like you are all of the sudden pc gamers because microsoft is putting their games on the pc. just another excuse to use it as bait in your never ending console wars quest. ironically when apaocalypse questioned if i actually did support the pc i proved i did and low and behold he magically left that topic and never returned.
its too little too late to bring jrpgs on x1. ill take it though. but its literally not gonna do anything for the Xbox at this stage. if they are taking gaming seriously, they need to buy/open more studios. not throw money around like what they did with tomb raider.
I buy them... i bought blue dragon, Lost Odyssey, Star Ocean, and ffxiii (complete series) all on xbox360. Truth is PS4 has consistently had jrpg support and xbox has not . So where do you think people who love jrpgs will go? No bias here. If xbox gets more diversity i will support it.
and how many of these 27 million are in the US and how many of these only use the box for tv subscription and media stuff? in the past microsoft made an effort to conquer the living room by all means. they sacrificed their core business - the games - for it. i would like to buy a box, but i feel about microsoft the same way as i feel about nintendo: that i am not their target group. pity. but the sad truth. they thought they could cheat their way to the audiences. but all they accomplished was hurting themselves bigtime.
Angelic, change is important if it happens. It's true that MS needed to keep up with 1st party software during the 360 days... but they didn't. Now all of you guys who desperately want MS to have more games are moving the goal posts, again, to say that MS shouldn't change now because it's not a good time? It's clear that Scorpio is the beginning of something new for MS, so it is a "good time". They know that HW alone won't do much, and it shows with all the recent news and suggestions about games. You don't have to believe the change is on the horizon though, because it will occur regardless of what you believe.
I'd like to see the diversity on every platform, but I also like to see the success of such diversity to encourage publishers and developers to justify continued support
@FallenAngel1984 At least he´s trying to make Xbox One better bringing more japanese dev support. What are YOU doing?
Shouldn't Phil have started this earlier though? I can imagine having Japanese developer support would have benefitted the system greatly from the beginning. Not that I'm saying it would fix the consoles situation in Japan but at least it would make all those PC/PS4 Japanese games come to Xbox as well. P.S Just so everyone knows PC=\= to Xbox. Bringing Japanese games to the Windows store or to Xbox itself is what I was making a reference to.
There are still people who like JRPG on their Xbox, nothing wrong with that. It's not like every PS owner likes JRPGS. It is good that he tries to bring these games to Xbox. Those niche games need their sales, instead of those rehash games we get every year.
I like Phil and think he's the perfect boss for Xbox BUT.. it's time to put up or shut up. Saying you're committed means absolutely nothing unless it translates to exclusives in the way of games or content. Having said that though, at this point, if you're a fan of JRPGs or Japanese games in general, you're going to be a PS gamer.
Yep, we've been waiting on his changes to come this whole generation. The only changes were to retract the changes they already made. Which is in response to consumer response, not his presence. I think he's okay. But, at the end of the day, MS isn't consumer friendly and operates purely as a business rather than trying to find passion in the industry. They lack morals, interest, and vision. I want MS to earn our money. Because, they have so much potential that if they honestly wanted to serve their customers and hire passionate partners then they would do a lot of good.
For god's sake, the damn Switch outsold Xbox One lifetime sales on launch day and people think there is a chance in Japan.
@PapaBop I agree with you but there is a lot of changes he/microsoft need to make to the xbox and this takes time. I think in the background they have been working on things to put in place once Scoripo comes out. Adding things like cross play, Windows 10, DirectX ect has been part of putting the ip's out now Scoripo is on the way. Alittle bit like Nintendo doing with the Switch. I just hope they manage to keep the IP's coming for the xbox one to. He has done a great job turning the xbox sales around and ok they are not outselling the ps4 but I don't think that was the target when he took over but to get the xbox name back out there again. Japan will always be a hard place to crack for the xbox brand but by making the games on box xbox and windows 10 gives that game a good chance of selling well. Its a wait and see a the moment though as we don't know to much how Microsoft and Phil are going to take things.
You could be on Steam too. PC has been getting a lot of JRPG love in the past 5 years. If it had had that 15-20 years ago, I'd probably be more into PC today....but I digress. Granted, PS does seem to get a lot more games sooner, but PC has it's fair share of exclusive Japanese content that gets smaller localizations which are probably out of reach on consoles due to the higher licensing costs to publish a game on consoles. But I do agree with you otherwise. PS4, Vita, and 3DS are probably the best places to get the higher profile or mid-tier JRPG's as soon as possible.
Of course he is. It's just not vice versa.
MS just tries to react after they make their mistakes , but things change and they may always play catch up . Seems like they are going in circles or 360 hoho. It takes many years to produce greag studios and also the right culture/support system , I doubt they ever get close to producing what Sony has now studio wise , it could take a decade or more to do that and MS won't have that.
I want this commitment translate into games
Exclusive Xbox Tales game confirmed
Namco already got enough lessons with Tales of Vesperia besides this late into the console cycle the fanbase are already on PS4 and PC, imagine the backlash they'll get if it ends up on the one platform their fans most probably don't have. It'll just be more bad image for both Namco and MS.
Namco seems pretty cozy with Sony and Nintendo now, so can't see that happening. Maybe a port of some tales game, or maybe actually doing a same day release on Xbox, but MS would have to pony up a lot of money for an exclusive. I doubt MS is going to put up that kind of money though. Funding JRPG development on 360 didn't work for them. It's not so much that MS will maybe get Japanese support of that nature. That's only half the equation. Even with the support, if MS isn't committed to having a consistent flow of said games for the potential customers that desire those kinds of games, then it's all a pointless endevour for them. Unfortunately for MS, they have not proven themselves to the Otaku gamer, or JRPG lover, to have consistent support in the genre. I know a lot of anime and JRPG fans....it's my circle for the most part....and I can say not a single one of them would consider buying an Xbox for those kinds of games. There was some desire during the early 360 days, but MS pretty much dropped the ball there, because the immediate results didn't achieve a higher install base, because MS hadn't, and still hasn't, figured out that that kind of trust is built over multiple generations of support....not just a few years. The Otaku gamer and JRPG devout aren't the common stupid class of game consumers who really don't have a clue what's going on. They are informed of what companies do, and can see, or at least suspect, that MS goal isn't long term support, but rather, short term pandering with no actual interest in furthering that aspect of the industry.
The only way to get games from japan studios is to pay million and even then it will be very, very, very hard to get an exclusive.
The Japan ship has sailed, this is just waste of time and effort
Microsoft can never get games from Japan Studios since Sony owns them. :P
Just like they've been committed to everything else they've said they're committed to? One would think if they were committed they wouldn't wait this long.
Translation: "We noticed that all these Japanese games that are releasing on PS4 early this year is making us look bad. We now see how important it is to have their support." To be fair the Xbox gamers are partially to blame here too. Speaking with your wallet is real and most seem to not support these type of games on that platform.
Don't Japanese games typically sell like s*it on Xbox platforms?
True, but there are also people who love these games. Although not that many if you look at sales..
Is it worth it for Microsoft to invest in such games now is the big question
They sell like shit on all platforms
They do reasonably well on 3DS.
Believe it when I see some games Phil.
Goes to Japan, invites Japanese developers to conference. Sees platinum. Has awkward feeling.
Phil "Um could you please bring Nier to Xbox? " :)
Heard that nobody cares about niche games Master
oh no!!! ps4 is finished!!!! :P
Oh great. Instead of trying to make Xbox first party better, they're still trying to get the Japanese, that don't even like them, to like their console. Notice how they're so damn desperate, to get the Japanese to like them, but can't put that same effort into making the Xbox first party, not a bigger laughing stock than every NFL team located in the Midwest. I swear to God, American companies are stupid. Xbox would probably be a better console, if it was owned by Samsung.
I suspect many Japanese devs will look at the Scalebound debacle and think twice before working with Microsoft. Phil has been saying the same things since he took over and the result has been that this is Sony's best year and it follows 2016 when Sony released the PS4 Slim, PSVR and PS4 Pro and games like Uncharted 4, The Last Guardian and a host of JRPGs. This year alone Sony has had 6 exclusives and March isn't even over yet. The fact is that the more Phil says, the less they actually do. Microsoft should just get on with actually giving us new IPs and exclusives.
Well good luck to Microsoft and it's brand of Gaming. I'm afraid Sony and Nintendo have a huge footprint in Japan / Asia but long term commitment might turn Microsoft's gaming division into better success. More loveable exclusives is where it's at.
They should just focus their effort to the western developers and start creating new studios for new IP.
didn't they try to jrpgs route with 360 and didn't pan out ?
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