ThisGenGaming says "It looks like Mass Effect Andromeda was downgraded as comparison images reveal that the game originally had much better animations."
LOL! If this doesnt end any debate of a downgrade nothing will. This is some some "Now you see me" downgrade here. The whole entire skin textures the armors metallics. They scrapped it. Bioware lost there minds.
What a disappointing end to what was set to be great. There was no way they could have screwed this up, but they did somehow.
It's sad how many times we hear that for games over the last few years.
@AuToFiRE On purpose, By Design, they screwed up. The bidding of Political forces behind the scenes.
SJW's did this.
@Pantz yes, non mettalic entities demanded that they take out the metallic armor.... GTFO
PS Poor and Xbox 720p is holding back development.
EA has a SOCIAL POLITICAL AGENDA. Its clear as glass. They are a tool of Big Business and Politics. Entertainment, making great games is not the Priority, its DOING THE BIDDING of Politics, and the $$$ men that own them.
How devious of them
OMG! *GASP* That's totally why the animations got downgraded. Gay gluten-free momdads. /s
the OP was referencing corporate politics; power, opinion, direction, hierarchy, etc
I bet that this is where they made their sacrifice, to get a decent frame rate. After seeing Horizon I think everyone should just pay to use the Decima engine. I will say though. I've only played for like 2 hrs but Andromeda isn't near as bad as everyone made it out to be. As a matter of fact it is damn gorgeous and runs smoothly on Pro in 4k. Yes, every character is a direct descendant of the Gerber baby, but dialogue has been fine and other than the weird eyes, my character came out fine. Combat is a hell of a lot better than the last 3 games, and the environment is on a much grander scale.
Haven't played the game, but to me it seems to me that everyone is judging the game based solely on the animations. There is no denying that stuff is laughable, but what about the rest of the game? I haven't really seen any complaints about it.
looking at the animations, I can't take the game seriously.
EA raped Mass Effect
EA replaced the studio, its just toting the name now.
"Mass Effect Andromeda Leaked 2016 Build Vs. 2017 Final Build Comparison Images Reveals Downgrade" What a joke. So glad I got Horizon: Zero Dawn over this downgraded mess.
Meh. GG have downgraded their games too in the past like Killzone, even Horizon too.. fewer trees and the famous foggy distance trick in final release. Downgrades happen to almost every game frankly, the real joke is sales induced comment.
@feju "Meh. GG have downgraded their games too in the past like Killzone, even Horizon too.." And somehow Horizon still ended up the best looking game this generation. It's also a great game all around. Can't say the same for Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Foggy distance trick? I must of missed that one in my 50 hours. Yeah I see fog when the weather is bad. I see clear skies and the best draw distances on sunny days. Maybe try playing it.
I don't know if I could say all that simply because we've always seen it running in real time and I would argue the game actually looks better than what they originally showed you technically could pause the game for yourself and change the time of day to match any of their promotional stuff to see for yourself. In regards to foggy trees in backgrounds or anything like that anything that they've changed sounds more so like it was based on design not based on some sort of downgrade or trickery Mind you you don't even know the reason behind that to my understanding it looks like they change the location of Aloys house , because it's a more mountainous area you're not going to see those trees in the same positions. This is actually probably why Electronic Arts decided to show as little as possible they did not want to be scrutinize over a series of months or years over a game and I actually think that's probably the best idea look at what people did with CD projekt Red The Witcher 3 clearly was downgraded in the team definitely lied about it which I do believe is wrong but their reasoning makes complete sense and it's no different than what Ubisoft stated they had an early build they showed it to Gamers and a pond nier the final portion of development it was clear that they had to dedicate more processing power to other areas of us having to downgrade portions over the game. It happens But it is not happening based on trickery or to try to deceive people because you have to consider that this footage is actually not the footage that Publishers are showing you before the game releases. The only company I can ever accuse of something like that would be no man Sky simply because that games original trailer was actually still being used to promote the final product despite it absolutely fabricating the concept of the game. I think for some publishers if they're not sure just how much more features would be added on the game in regards to affecting graphical Fidelity they should choose a shorter marketing wing.
@Bathyj It is a trick! But a very lovely trick! They use weather systems to disguise background loading! Ever wondered why at times the weather could change so drastically all of a sudden? Well, there you go :) I think it's a very smart trick tho!
So you got hzd cuz... Graphics?? Wicked smaht. I'm kidding btw.
Ehh, this is an article about graphical downgrades afterall, so this is about graphics, isn't it?
Graphics are important but isn't the only important element in making a good game. If a game is aesthetically unappealing it can take you out of the experience. If graphics weren't important why do we keep pushing them to get better and better each gen? Or why do you hear, "This game looks like it's from [insert previous generation here]," I mean I don't think it's fair to harp on a game that's not exactly a graphical marvel but from what I've read and seen the game has a lot more issues to it than graphics. Also, it sucks when you are with a series that really has great graphics for its time to somehow take a step back in the latest gen. If graphics didn't matter nobody would care, but in the context of a game developed for a current generation of hardware it does matter.
Aenea but it's not about HZD graphics.
@Game4funz Definitely read it in ben afflecks voice
@ANEA your flawed logic fails to. Mention the article isn't about horizon zero dawn either. Hypocrisy
I own Horizon zero Dawn and I'll still purchasing Mass Effect in about a month or two I'm not entirely sure why people keep making this sound as if this needs to be an either-or , buddy trust me people could like more than one game nothing is wrong with that. Horizon zero Dawn is easily one of my favorite games this generation. No lie. That doesn't mean I'm just suddenly got to stop playing all games. That would be like stop watching films because you saw an amazing Scorsese film. If you choose to not purchase it that to your decision and all power to you there's nothing wrong with that , but please don't make it sound as if there's only one game everyone can only play.
@_-EDMIX-_ "If you choose to not purchase it that to your decision and all power to you there's nothing wrong with that , but please don't make it sound as if there's only one game everyone can only play." I'm pretty sure I was referring to me and not everyone else. I said "I'm glad I got Horzion: Zero Dawn over Mass Effect: Andromeda."
'don't make it sound as if there's only one game everyone can only play' Can you point out exactly where he said that please?
Platinumed Horizon, now playing Nier, ME: A will arrive on Thrusday (2 day later release in EU), one can play everything! :)
@Aenea- DAMN!!! Some line up. Hats off to you if you're able to be all of those before Persona 5.
Talk about beating a dead hourse but they deserve it yes bioware did f*** up. the game could easily run on ps3 it's no where near pushing even xboxone let alone ps4 and it's a bad port on pc the game got downgraded real bad to hell..it's like ubisoft "in your face"downgrade. What the hell happened,Bioware?? BTW the one who hired Halo 4 writer to write Mass effect should be fired on the spot.
What? Andromeda looks nothing like a PS3 era game. Yes, some of the animations are bad. Yes, some of the textures are bad. But these screenshots are not representative of what the game looks like on average. For the most part, the game looks stunning. Graphics are not the problem with Andromeda. Why do people resort to such hyperbole?
You are aware that MGS V ran on PS3 and 360 too, right?!?! And that game looks much better than this crap!
He's right it's not hyperbole, the game could definitely run on last gen consoles. The only thing that might need a little downgraded is the environments, cuz those are the only thing that look good.
How am i wrong ??...have you seen uncharted/god of war/killzone/the last of us/gtav/mgsv etc on ps3..imo all of them look better than this "next gen" mass effect. If this game is stunning for you then it's your opinion and not something i will ever agree with after playing games like uncharted 4 and Horizon etc on ps4.
Halo 4 had good story. And awesome dialogu between cheif and cortana. Not sure what you mean
wow man.. i wanted to believe so much in this game.. but to see this level of downgrade.. that's so unfortunate. downgrades, microtransactions, paid dlcs.. what has the gaming world come to.. thank god for people who still produce quality games like rockstar and cd projekt red and still provide free content..
Rockstar has micros and all but abandoned single player dlc for GTAV in favor of more useless microtransaction driven online stuff.
It didn't look all that great to begin with, so this is pretty sad.
Couldn't they have kept those character models at least? Goddammit Bioware. What the hell happened?
Looks like when they switched from Unreal engine to Frostbite they were tight on time to deliver the game and went with a more cartoony look rather than the realistic look of the older titles. They should have just delayed the game and polished it up, a late good game is always better than a bad early game.
The final build looks like it would be the early build.
This is utter bullshit. 1. How the f#ck do you compare animations with a single frame image? You dont! 2. The 2017 images has the textures turned down to the lowest setting. Textures are not that shitty. Just watch one the thousands of gameplay videos. Seriously ... thisgengaming is posting so much unconfirmed crap. Click bait barrage. Stop it!
Not sure if trolling.. Or serious...
I think he's serious and I agree. From the article: "Images of the final build of Mass Effect Andromeda have been compared to the leaked 2016 build which shows that the game originally had much better and realistic animations" Still images don't show "better and realistic animations"... I also feel the textures in the older build are way too shiny, even the skin is shiny, not liking it, plus the gear is obviously changed and is now showing wear and tear from use instead of looking brand spanking new. I do like the alien dude in the older pictures better tho.
I remeber how bioware were talking about how this game will look like in the first reveal trailer or even better. They were talking about so much about graphics, but seems to me that this is not a great looking game as they said it would be.
I dont see the downgrade here ?? Still looks bad.
EA was like: "If Ubi can do it, so can WE!!!"
I don't know why people lose their minds when they see a downgrade, as tho they're trying to con us or something. I don't think anything sinister was going on, clearly mass effect had a lot of trouble in development. This is speculation but I think it's fair to say as it had such a long time in development with hardly any trailers. I think the downgrade could well mean they were over ambitious and had to reign it back a little. It was leaked footage so they're weren't intending to show It off so how can people get mad?
Make it illegal it's lies.
Buy Horizon instead lads or Zelda, this is a cash grab.
Horizon Zelda NiOh Nier Yakuza Zero Are all worth your money. Not to mention we have Persona 5 next month.
"Downgrade" has to be one of the worst word that has come out of Video Game sensationalism. I understand it is currently popular to hate on Mass Effect: Andromeda, and honestly I don't really care about that game either way. Was never a big fan of the Mass Effect franchise. However. I really wish that word would not be thrown around like it is today. It's gotten to the point now that every game that comes out is considered a downgrade of some sorts, often because it is not exactly the same as previously shown. Things change under development and optimization has to happen. Expecting stuff not to change is just silly. Both The Witcher 3 and The Division was famously called out as a downgrades at release. Both were the best looking open worlds created to date and it could barely run with maxed graphics on a $2000 gaming pc. How is that a downgrade? Mass Effect: Andromeda might be a terribly optimized game, but there is no developer that would wilfully downgrade their game. And I think the word "downgrade" has lost all meaning at this point, not that it had much to begin with.
It's just such an asinine comment to make about a game. It's as if they actually believe devs say, 'wow, we've got this great game, but you know what, before we release it, let's make a conscious effort to make it worse.' It's even more dumb in this case as the '2016 build' is from a leak, so it's not as if there's a claim that Bioware said 'it's going to look like this' knowing it wouldn't.
We've reached a point where people just love to complain (in some cases justifiably so) but as stated above, the word "downgrade" is being used on practically everything. I cringe when I see an article, or story about a game comparison with that as the topic, and more so, at all the rage filled comments. People feel that it's cool to hate. It's exhausting. I personally feel like I'll enjoy Andromeda - time will tell. It might not be as good as the trilogy (at least it certainly isn't in the animations department), but if this in of itself becomes a series, then perhaps they will learn a lot and progress from there. If not? So be it, they will lose consumers/reputation/sales. It's a different team after all. It may have been the B team, but people only get better through progress, so, if this title is actually enjoyable, I'll have hope towards the future that they will learn - otherwise dwindle. Which seems more reasonable than, THIS IS THE END BIOWARE, I SO CALLED IT, HUR, LIKE MY POST.
Well this is called "development process" First you have something to show, but over time things are tweaked here and there. If something looks better or not is a matter of opinion. I really hope the gaming community would stop crying about something like that. It is not like we saw "mass effect" but got "pacman" instead. It's a great looking game with some weird bugs.
Someone with a brain finally. Many games probably go through similar stuff like this. I don't consider this a downgrade because that "leaked" build was never shown to the public. We weren't deceived in anyway or given false impressions about what we would get. That is what Ubisoft did with Watch Dogs... they showed something to us and then released something way downgraded. With that said, I still think the graphics aren't very good considering some of it is worse than prior ME games.
I'm probably going to pass on this game. I'm a huge fan of the original trilogy... but from all I've heard and seen this game looks like a shell of what I liked. I want to remember this series as being good.
It came out today that Manveer Heir ( the racist white hating games designer that worked on Mass Effect) was asked to resign over a month ago (polite sacking) and has started his own indie game company. As if anyone decent is gunna work for that hairy, smelly, racist chode!
Games are constantly being showcased on high end PCs... especially third party games.
Anybody seen Lei Wulong around here? He's supposed to be in Tekken 7 but I can't find him nowhere.
Look son. Noobs. Noobs everywhere.
its not a downgrade, if you used your brains you'd realize that they switch engines. The version last year looked like they were still using Unreal but EA probably saw how good Frostbite was and tried shove it down Bioware's throats forcing them to reintegrate and transfer all coding and animation over to the new engine hence it probably resulted in poor animation which is why this is a problem. Since Bioware can't defend themselves because of EA's overlording over them we will never know the truth
Nit picking!!! seriously why do people care about things that really don't matter just play your games! There will never be a day when a game is 100% no matter how much you whinge! Get off the hype train, you'll be less disappointed with things that way! The industry for a while now seems to be a fast train with blind people on board requesting ignorant demands lead by blind fools following each direction everyone keeps changing as they give one demand yet it's not good enough and they change direction! Expectation is the killer of happiness, you'll never have fun without content for what is!
Not even a downgrade. That version was a render not a real game. It was never intended for final game like Watch Dogs. It was just one big fat lie to get dopes to buy into the hype like most AAA devs.
Man so many talent game designers and console tech experts in these forums. It seems everyone here knows exactly how the the hardware and software used to make games such as these work inside and out. Of course I'm being sarcastic and I'm pretty sure that 99% of the people in these forums know jack shit about game development but that won't stop people form talking out of their ass will it. Also it would do well to consider that this video was in fact never officially released to the public and was most likely an internal early development build used to get a feel for the engines limitations as opposed to the scale of the game they were currently making. I wish i could see the deer in the headlights look on peoples face when they actually learn what goes in to developing even the simplest games. But truthfully hardly anyone that reads these forums will ever know. It takes talent, intelligence, patience and an understanding of technological limitations. Things you won't find here. 7.5. Might as well kill yourself right?