Steve Wright, Stevivor -- "I can’t get over how much people are bitching over Mass Effect: Andromeda’s animations. Right or wrong, and wholly undeserving of anonymous internet rage in either case, this is squarely on EA and BioWare."
Totally agree. I mean, yeah the whole facial animation thing was funny the first time. But let's move on and wait and see what the rest of the game has in store.
Word is it's Shit.
That's not what I'm seeing Bath. 8.5 seems to be the average.
@The_Sage You've now made it pretty clear you don't understand what the word average means.
You've now made it pretty clear you don't understand what the words "the average" means.
It means the game is getting scores that average 8.5 not that 8.5 is average.
Word is that taking someone for their word is pretty foolish.
But on topic, how can anyone review the full game and give a score with only 10 hrs of game play out of 160+ hrs?
*Said in Doc Forster and TV's Frank "Deep Hurting" voice*:
"Shuttle scene! Shuttle scene!"
That part in ME2 for me was the moment series lost any value as a story.
upping just for the MST3K reference. DEEEEEEEP HURRTING.
Also I'm excited for ME just because I've liked all the other games, probably won't play it much since I'm deep in Horizon and Zelda right now, but yah, the facial animation thing will make me chuckle more than being mad I think.
It's weird because obviously a lot of work went into this game. It's a 100 hr rpg. That's what is so disconcerting. Is it simply that there was bad leadership, that animators and voice directors were out of their league. Because combat, environments etc are top notch. Strange for sure!
Apparently the person in charge of face animation was an "Experienced' cosplay who hates men. I have a feeling EA was just filling their quota with her.
It's a 100 hr rpg
I think that is part of the problem. They clearly didn't have the means to create and refine such a mammoth game. Nothing feels polished. Not even the beginning of the game. I am concerned that it could get worse the further into the game you get.
@2pocalypsenow She wasn't the lead animator, I don't think. They just give certain titles to various people involved with certain activities. She has paid the price though. And I think she hates men that attack her on social media concerning a video game.
A lot of work went into the Millennium Tower too. It just wasn't quality where it counts.
"Thank boring early access for the fury over Mass Effect: Andromeda's animations"
Was there a different game during Early Access that isn't the same game this guy supposedly reviewed? How was the Access "boring." After all EA Access had the Day One patch. You know, the one where they toned down Ryder's default female appearance to reduce her womanly wiles in order to please the SJW crowd.
Some people bought EA Access to play this particular game early. How is their anger over being misled concerning an obviously mediocre big budget title unjustified? Wait, the press speaks for buyer's, right? The press that gives this game 9.5 and 9.8. The latter site that gave the game a 9.8 stated, and I quote, "While not the best Mass Effect game (that throne still belongs to ME2), it certainly isn’t the worst by any stretch of the imagination."
Not the worst means a .2 deduction for the entire review? Really? I guess an 8 allows a game to be a total abomination and still walk away with a decent score.
EA used the long standing Ubisoft bait and switch sleight of hand. Reviewers claim to be members of the press. And though the press does not in reality serve the public good, it is supposed to serve the truth and then it is the truth which insures the public good. Publishing a poor review that glosses over legitimate issues propagates a lie and only undermines fact. In doing so they are a detriment to the buying demographic. Pitchforks and torches should be outside the basement, I mean the offices of stevivor. It is little more than uncoordinated collusion with deception from both publisher and reviewer.
Just because the writer of the stevivor review is completely devoid of any objective authorship whatsoever does not mean people should forego expressing their anger. As stated elsewhere this current article is being shoveled in a useless and quite transparent attempt to prop up stevivor's illegitimate review. A horse blinder opinion piece without even the barest trappings of a legitimate, objective, and methodical review.
Welcome to the party pal. Stevivor should show some fortitude. Do not stick it out if you are afraid of getting it whacked off. And for the love of gaming, consider this incident a hard lesson learned and try writing an actual review from this point forward.
The shit animation has nothing to do with the service , the animation is shitty cause the studio behind the game didn't care enough are do more . No thing to do with the service and people would have still voiced their dissatisfaction about the sad looking animation.
Isn't it a different development group this time around?
The first 3 games identify Bio ware but not which studio but not which region , all that aside it still feel like they didn't try hard .
Ok, thanks. Yeah I never got into mass effect but I know it has a huge following. Sucks when corners are cut
There are three main studios that make up BioWare:
BioWare Edmonton: Responsible for pretty much anything released under the name BioWare
BioWare Montreal: Provides assistance to the Edmonton studio where needed. I believe they worked on Mass Effect 3's multiplayer. They are the ones who worked on Andromeda while Edmonton works on a new IP
BioWare Austin: Formed specifically to develop The Old Republic. Worked on Shadow Realms before that was cancelled. They did some work on Inquisition, but I don't know the extent of their involvement
How about I blame the poor craftsmanship for the shitty animations?
The guys just trying to defend his 9.5 review score.
Somewhere a bell started ringing
Totally agree full defence mode here. Now there's a massive influx of reviews where the average is around 7.5/10 the Stevivor review stands out like a sore thumb for being overly lenient (9.5/10) and not taking the game's flaws seriously enough to be more realistic with the score. It's one thing to enjoy the game because you're a fan of the series, that's fair enough but to ignore its failings just because you're in love is not what reviewers should be doing. Reviewers can still enjoy a game but also be critical, that's not a crime y'know and will garner a bit more respect from readers than simply handing out glowing scores cos you got the game free from EA.
"Totally agree full defence mode here. Now there's a massive influx of reviews where the average is around 7.5/10 the Stevivor review stands out like a sore thumb for being overly lenient (9.5/10) and not taking the game's flaws seriously enough to be more realistic with the score. It's one thing to enjoy the game because you're a fan of the series, that's fair enough but to ignore its failings just because you're in love is not what reviewers should be doing. "
Are you serious ? You know that all of that is irrelevant and changes from case to case because reviews are subjective ? Some reviewers value certain things over others. If one reviewer doesn't think bad facial animations make that much of a difference, then whatever, that's fine.
@Lamboomington Sure, enjoyment is subjective but objectivity should not be. And what the author has written here is a load of tripe to detract from a very real and apparent issue with the game. If ME:A was an action game with a few dodgy looking cutscenes then fair enough you might be able to ignore some technical issues. However in such a story driven character based game, and in light of the bar being raised by other games in the genre it's not fair to gloss over the failings or dismiss them as unimportant.
That's what I see
Gotta work for that check EA cut.
They have a consistent opinion, you know
This piece came before reviews were published. So do you mean reviewer's know in advance what other reviews will be? You may then have something there. But an opinion is an opinion, isn't it?
You could argue Forbes did the same thing when they posted a piece telling people to calm down about the pre views. Still was their consistent opinion though
Let's be real. This is not "early access". Not as in "Steam Early Access". Only a blind man would believe, that any work would be done between "EA Early Access" and "release". The game truly released on March 16. Everybody else is just gated from playing it.
Blame EA for making them use the BF engine on in house games , the devs did well on Unreal 3 after recently completing BF1 single player I have trouble understanding why everyone thought that was great.
People play BF for Multiplayer, if you bought it for Singleplayer, then you bought the game for the Wrong reason lool
I got BF1 for the multi player but people told me the single player was good they were wrong.
Battlefield 1 single player is completely irrelevant to what you're talking about with Mass Effect
I'm not even sure how you've come to this conclusion.
It uses the same engine does it not so irrelevance is for you.
@2nd-I don't think you fully understand what's being stated
that is relevant in the broad sense that they're both the same engine, it is irrelevant because they're different teams.
It is irrelevant because the aspect that you're talking about has nothing to do with engine.
You not liking the single-player to Battlefield 1 has absolutely nothing to do with the single player that is in another game , of another genre ,by a different team.
I agree. There ONE mandate was to make sure that our first impression was a great one! This was supposed to make us forget about ME3's ending. Oh well! All I can guess is that there were serious issues and EA said, "release the damn game" We need the sales!
I think this should have released in October but because EA has nothing early in the year, they forced this out to remedy that. And I think it will blow up their faces.
You know, I do agree with this author. Before trying it this weekend, I was nervous that the animations would be horrific. Yet, when I played it, they are simply what I have encountered in the Mass Effect series. Listen,I am not giving them a pass for it, not at all, but it did not ruin ANYTHING for me during the EA trial. I don't get all the hate for this game, at all. From the content we got to play with EA Access, if you enjoyed Mass Effect trilogy, then you'll like this. Sure, I wish this game had amazing animations and what not, but the allure is there and I am excited to continue the adventure come Tuesday. Obviously, I have only had access to a sliver of the game, but all was good for me. I did experience some frame drops (Xbox One), about 2 two time which resolved itself within seconds. The combat is drastically improved and the dialogue system is much improved as well.
'The combat is drastically improved and the dialogue system is much improved as well.'
I can't agree with that. The dialogue system is just DAI's and is tied in to some truly awful dialogue which massively undermines it. And the combat is a high point but is rendered null by the fact that the AI in this game is a joke across the board. You can introduce all of the powers and skills you want, but if the enemies are brain dead then what exactly is the point?
And thank goodness for that, otherwise I would have wasted $52, this is why we need game demos.
Thank early access and negative previews and now I'm not wasting $60 on this game
Yes, being able to access the game a week early is definitely the sole reason people are talking about a game's poor animations. Seriously how do people come up with such flawed logic and actually believe it? And it's not just the animations but the god awful writing and voice acting. Sorry, my face is tired.
Same people who don't want demos because they hurt sales, they rather a customer buy a broken game without knowing it, then "apologize" after they have your money.
This guy pretty much said, it's EA access's fault that people are seeing how bad the game is before buying it.
"Fury"? Is there really "fury" over all this?
I am finding it amusing that people seem to have grasped upon only the animations being a problem in this game when it has problems in a myriad of areas. That is what always happens. 'Oh, it's just the animations, I can live with that'. It's like people aren't listening and just pick out what they want to hear. This game has issues in almost every area of game design.
And I don't know if it's because I have played Nioh, Nier, HZD, and am nearing the end of Zelda, but the problems in MEA stick out like a sore thumb to me. The AI in particular is the worst I have encountered in recent memory.
I didnt play early access, but based on what i saw in trailer these guys mived stiffer than a mannequin. Thats painfully obvious. You dont need early access to see that and thats EA/Biiware cutting corners. Plain and simple.
It was a lot of hours and we could play anything if we could make it there. Not to mention it had the day one patch. All it did was warn consumers in a rare case of honesty from EA. Then again, they were likely hoping on it selling it to people unaware that we're kinda sick of them screwing up our beloved franchises.
Let's be fair here, the animations aren't good and that does effect peoples experiences of the game. Additionally, it's not the only thing wrong with the game, with uninspired voice overs, trite narrative development and an open world full of mindless busy work.
Bare in mind for a moment that the author of this article gave Mass Effect one of its very highest review scores. It's quite possible that this is just an effort to defend that score, an attempt to dismiss the complaints of others so that the praise the game was given by his website, holds more water.
I don't know why anyone preorders games anymore (or even buy day one). They all are released unfinished and buggy and need two or three patches months after release to be playable. Preordering just encourages this practice.
Wait your trying to blame early access for the start of the game sucking?
Shitty animations take you out of the game. Happy wheels has better animations and that game is free. lol
I'm waiting for significant updates and price drop before buying.
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