Are things like PlayStation Now and Xbox Play Anywhere a big step towards eliminating consoles entirely?
Consoles are not going anywhere anytime soon.
Still have to wait for the Scorpio and PS5, so yeah. Consoles aren't going anywhere anytime soon. I'm not playing any console games on a PC. I will play them on the systems they were designed to be played on.
The real question is, with consoles do we need PSNow ?
Its an option for those who dont game on consoles and for those who want to game while travelling etc, provided tney have a good internet connection. Plus its trojan horse for Sony, if you like, to lure people in that would otherwise never experience Playstation.
Stop asking these stupid questions. Consoles will always be cheaper than PC's that and the ease of use to plug into the living room us why consoles will always be useful...
Yes we do as it offers a better experience than streaming. Also, datacaps.
If you think people are gonna stream games instead of playing them in full HD quality on a console ,then good luck on that. Not everyone has good internet and even if you do input lag can still occur.
I do think 1080p/4k streaming for games will be there in a couple years, maybe even sooner. The problem with PS Now is that it isn't available in every country, and Sony isn't going to put new games on there. It would defeat the purpose of software sale, digital or retail, sales, holiday sales etc. I think it's only for a niche group.
The avg internet speed is like 8mbps lol
Could you imagine streaming a game in 4k and how quickly anyone with a data cap would be max out on their data. Just streaming 4k movies has got to be rough on anyone with a data cap.
Couple of years? More like a couple of decades.
People still have data caps? That's shit. I pay €57,95 for about 300 mbits download and 30 upload. I live in Holland, never had a cap since the dialup modem. You should all boycot those shady internet companies
You are quite right game streaming is not like video streaming and even then you have to have buffering where a portion of the movie is actually saved in memory or storage medium of the device (PC, console, smartphone...) which in turn offsets the variation in network perpormance. Game streaming can be similar to movie streaming but predominately you are dependent on the overall performance of the network. Yes, some players won't have any issue with game streaming but the majority will. The Microsoft approach to game streaming is effectively game rental and IMHO is the better approach (giving credit where credit is due) since you actually have to download the game to a storage medium (ie. SSD or HDD) however you now run into problems with data caps if you have them. Of course, even streaming like what PS Now is doing will impact data caps if you have them as well. The best solution to game streaming is a combination of rental (ie. full download) and buffered streaming allowing the consumer to make the call.
I agree I think PlayStation now has its place for specific users but I just don't see it as a reasonable option for the majority.
So you are saying PSNOW is a poor streaming service?
He's saying PS Now is inferior to playing natively on a console.
He is simply saying like all Streaming , it's not the best method to play games vs local play...which is one of the reasons why Sony is not going down loaded route on anything but a PlayStation...because their goal is not trying to sell you software on anything other than a PlayStation.. Their goal is not only sell you a system , but also sell you the software as well...the rental streaming service is more of a way to monotize other platforms and Advertising software...not to replace. The console...
@Liqu1d Well, 5G network is just around the corner. Internet/mobile providers say that it will be mainstream by 2020. That's gigabit speeds on mobile just to let you know. So it won't be decades, that's for sure. But I would still rather play the game on the hard drive to have a consistent gameplay experience, at least when it comes to the video quality.
New games aren't going to come out on PSNOW so if you want to play the latest PS titles then you'd better have a console to do so!
This^ PS4 exclusives will come out a year or two on ps now after the console release most likely
That is if PS Now is still around. lol
YES! Would love to see physical copies make a comeback while you're at it.
Make a comeback?
Ever since DLC and online updates have become a thing, physical media was on its way out. DVDs and Bluray is effectively dead because of streaming, likewise gaming on PC because of Steam. Some major console titles can't be played without a day-one patch, and contrary to majority belief, because this is a majority vs minority issue, not everyone has decent internet access. Some have none.
Stream 4k games? I don't think so, I want the best possible experience thank you.
Of course you do. You're still going to get the best experience on playing directly from PlayStation. Plus not every game will be on the service and the ones that are can be taken off at any point in time. Play Anywhere is a completely different service altogether and can't be compared to PS Now
PSnow is a streaming service that can be played on a cheap laptop. Playanywhere is ownership of the game but you need good PC specs to play the game well. PSNow is for the casual. Playanywhere is for the hardcore. Both offer similar things, but one is rental and accessible. The other will cost you more for a good experience but also includes ownership. Both have a common goal. Tap into the PC Market. And the only way you will is if you are putting exclusives on there, or else they will just buy the PC version of multiplats
Cloud gaming is not just for the casual gamer. Just because the means of distribution is different does not mean that the demographic is different.
"And the only way you will is if you are putting exclusives on there, or else they will just buy the PC version of multiplats" No need for exclusives really. If all you have is a cheap laptop then you can't even play recent multiplats. PS Now is designed to make these games more accessible and expand into new markets. True gamers are just going to buy a PS4 and not settle for inferior versions.
We do "NEED" consoles because we love them. But these services are making them less relevant resulting in a future with unoptimized games for consoles. Especially in the case of MS.
Why would you say especially in the case of MS. For Play Anywhere titles you need a good gaming pc. For psnow you just need a windows pc
Because MS has both play anywhere AND game pass. You can literally get all xbox games on PC day one.
Which games were 'unoptimized' for Xbox One? And why would it be especially for MS?
I dodnt say they are here now. They are coming.
"I dodnt say they are here now. They are coming." Oh okay, in the future which you can see clearly, MS will be releasing unoptimized games on the masses for Xbox One and Scorpio. Got it.
WHAT are you TALKING about. Cant you see that thats where this is headed? Take your damn glasses off. If gamers buy Xbox games on PC, whats the relevance of the console? Is it not true that it will be a matter of time before the number of gamers on each platform determines the amount of time a developer will spend optimizing the game for each platform?? At least TRY and make sense. And YES!! ESPECIALLY for MS because you can buy their games on PC "day one".
"If gamers buy Xbox games on PC, whats the relevance of the console?" That is a huge IF you got going on there and your hypothetical question doesn't mean MS will release games not optimized for their console as a fact. "Take your damn glasses off." As soon as you take off your tin foil hat. "Is it not true that it will be a matter of time before the number of gamers on each platform..." Where's your proof? And what is it you are even trying to say or prove here? Console sales and games for consoles are selling extremely better than their console counterpart. I have noy seen one stat that says PC sells are on the rise since PSnow and Play Anywhere was announced. So exactly where are you getting this notion that MS will deliberately not optimize their games...do you even know what "optimization" means? The funny part is you're telling me to try and make sense when you havent made any at all.
"Console sales and games for consoles are selling extremely better than their *computer* counterpart"
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All of the play anywhere games are UWP games. They have the ability to scale to power on consoles. The exact reason they are saying all Scorpio games will be backwards and forwards compatible. They optomize once with directx and then scale to the specs. Simple
And bringing out game mode on windows 10 pc is making it even easier for them to optimize the pc versions to be more like consoles
People seem to be making the incorrect assumption that the console makers are going to put their best games, or new exclusives on PS Now or the Xbox Pass. They aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot and do that. Those services are just a way to get a revenue stream from old games that they've already milked dry. They might put one or two marginally newer games on it as a highlight to pull in subscribers. But it's mostly going to be older games. The Xbox Pass list of games we've seen is 90% or more old 360 games, and PS Now is primarily the same. It's just that the systems have been around a few years now so throwing early current gen games that are selling for under $10 now is feasible and a good marketing point. I wouldn't hold your breath on seeing Horizon or Nioh on PS Now anytime soon.
Xbox, no. But it will be a long time before PS Now replaces PS consoles. For one, the service streams in 720p/ 30 FPS vs the native 1080 - 4K range on PS4/ Pro. It still has a lot of issues that need to be ironed out before it can really take off. Plus, the PS4 games are likely to be much older ones like Knack and inFamous. Sony's not stupid; they're not gonna release brand new PS4 titles on PS Now.
This question is clickbait but i'll comment. This psnow is like the worst possible way to play these games. The only reason to do it is if you'd rather not buy a console for a few of the games it offers. The resolution is limited and the delay is real. However, even if magically everyone has good internet and the delay is tolerable I'd still want the physical ownership. So for me these games services aren't going to be for me. So I don't know about the rest of the people but for me I need consoles.
Sometimes It's not as responsive. Sometimes internet doesn't work or servers are down. Sometimes data speeds aren't fast enough. That's enough sometimes to know that it's not for this day in age.
Yes because streaming sucks
Console is here to stay but exclusives will be the past, all thanks to the push for playing any game on any device anywhere and everywhere, including competing consoles. Consoles will be optional rather than mandatory for any game. The future will be interesting in how many ways gaming will change. Except Nintendo, since they're "stuck in the past." Nintendo will be the last company with exclusives.
Eventually ps now will be the standard, but for now home consoles have a place and a large customer base.
Media streaming is unreliable. 4k HDR Netflix does not look as good or run as well as 4K HDR Blurays no matter how good your connection is. Fibre infrastruction has years worldwide to move before gaming streaming fully can happen to a level that is even close to 0hysical media. Servers overload, crash, and inevitably get turned off. No server means no game. Do you rrally want a generation of games to just dissappear of the face of the earth with a flick of a switch? I certainly don't the day Xbox, PS or Nintendo goes streaming online only is the day i stop buying their consoles. Online distribution is enivtable yes. However enforcing an online only system that requires constant internet connection is commercial suicide. Does no one remember what happened when Xbox One announced it needed a 24 hour check in?
another click baity pointless article
i only play physical games
PS NOW and Play anywhere are totally different.. and Console will always stay...
Are you kidding? Streaming game services are far from perfected. You can still get lower resolution, frame drops and lagging. It just doesn't compare to actually running a game right there on your machine.
I've been gaming since the last 70's on the Atari 2600. To be honest, if and when consoles are phased out, is the day I put my gaming hobby out to pasture.
I do agree that PSNow is not the best way for gaming but this service is not just aimed at consoles or PC's it is also aimed at smart devices which include TV's. Of course, any streaming service performance is dependent on your network and data caps if you have them. Game rental, like what Microsoft has proposed means that the whole game is downloaded to a storage device (ie. SSD or HDD) but you can't this with a smart TV and only to a limited extent with a smartphone. Again like PSNow you can run into problems with data caps if you have them. The choice of digital downloading versus physical copies is up to the individual since there are plusses and minuses with both. Even waiting for sales the buyer should look at both the physical (includes second-hand games) digital downloads and then make a call after all it is your money.
Absolutely consoles are not going anywhere anytime soon the reality is PlayStation now I believe is an amazing option. But I actually believe what Microsoft is doing makes a lot of sense to users that may not have good enough internet to justify streaming but good enough to download I believe there's room for multiple option in regards to distribution because that is how the music and the film industry is tidel or apple or Spotify existing does not mean physical CDs do not exist , they're simply options. I believe it's important to have some sort of rental system setup it's why I'm okay with GameFly ,PlayStation now and Xbox rental service simply because it makes a lot of sense to Consumers to have these options even though I don't really see myself using any of them at the moment. That's like saying Netflix or Blockbuster what have you are going to take away having a Blu-ray player or movie theaters or something like that.
PSNOw is nothing than an AD for PS4 and its games. and, you still need to pay Sony for the privilege of playing those exclusives on (what PC gamers don't like) 30 fps...
Ps now is only available for a handful of countries. No sign of it expanding
@micbrc They are expanding it like they did with PlayStation TV ..they are narrowing down the focus 1st on select platforms and regions and than expand , which will reduce their platform rental fee...but on the same token , there is no local download option and most likely never will be...
This will be one of those "point-and-laugh-at" articles when the next gen PlayStation arrives. It's just a new way of saying that "consoles are doomed".
I still want to own a console even with games on PC or play anywhere.
Obviously we do, PSNOW will be old games that you have already played or can buy for cheap. I am not sure how long PS Now will exist. Things can change but as of now it makes little sense for Sony to ditch consoles, they are making great $ from the hardware not just software. With MS its a much harder question to answer, I don't even want to play their games available on PC much less buy an actual xb1 or scorpio later. Their games are lacking in quantity and quality, I think they will go full digital and become a service like they intended when theg started xbox
I personally prefer a console,I can do without streaming games that's why I have my PS4 Pro,PS3 & PSVita.
You can't do VR over the cloud, so yes?
Why does everyone feel compelled to write these articles? Do they even play consoles? Seriously, I'm a console gamer and the last thing on my mind is wanting them to go away
"Do we need consoles?" That depends. Would you buy a console when ALL of the games are available on PC? Would you rather play your games on a console or stream them over the internet? In some instances, I'd say Yes we need consoles. In another, I'd say no.
dont want to piss on pc gamers parade, but peoples are abandoning desktop pc more and more every days simply because of the fact that peoples are able to replace it with their phone/tablet, everything you did before on pc is migrating naturally toward phones& tablets, like it or not the simple fact of owning a dedicated pc will become something niche one day and its coming pretty fast, sure you will still see reluctant hunchbacks hanging really hard to their belovedpc but its inevitable, yet the consoles will still be a dedicated gaming machine that pretty much everyone will continue to associate with....dedicated gaming, so no, consoles will still stay relevant in peoples mind and naturally be asociated with the hobby of gaming, but sadly dedicated gaming on pc .. not for too long.
No PS4, no PS Now either...........
the answer itself lies within the title and is quite obvious. PSNow is being scaled back and has not taken off, this along with all the other streaming services that have failed tell you all you need to know.