We just linking directly to twitter now? As someone who doesn't use it I have no idea what the original question was etc.
I've said it before, but if I wanted to read tweets I'd use twitter.
Some one asked if there were confirmed gay romantic. He said yes the twitter follower then asked if he could confirm which characters were available, Flynn replied he couldnt comment. They then begin to cry about how when had seen two straight romance in trailers, why havent we seen gay one? He then said he would look into it, which is PR speak for well too bad.
Ahh thank you. So whole fuss about nothing really then.
All you have to do is scroll a little further up to see the entire tweet history that answers your question straight from the source, instead of poorly rehashed by an amateur site.
If they are gonna do something about it I hope it's a patch. They better not delay the game just to add Gay romances...
Yeah, that'd be pretty silly to delay the game to add Gay romances, when the previous games had them from the start.
LOL, not even close to the story.
They're talking about trailers and what is in trailers.
I hope gay romance becomes a free dlc for people who are Into It, Instead of having It shoved down my throat while I play my game.
No one's forcing you to play the game. If you have that big issues with gay people you should sort that out instead.
Lol, your kidding right?
It shouldn't be DLC. If you don't want to deal with gay romances, than Don't romance anyone of the same sex, bud.
What exactly is getting shoved down your throat... a gay romance? Interesting...
You kind of have to pursue it, so nobody is shoving it down your throat. That said, I'm sure gay people feel the opposite, that heterosexual romances is being shoved down their throat while playing.
You aren't forced to pursue the gay romance. Any more than you're forced to pursue the heterosexual one's available.
They're present in both forms, so the problem would be that they are forcing all romance down your throat, which they aren't, since it's an option.
I am with the straight majority, my money and feelings are just as Important, I have the right to complain just as gay people do.
Yes, but others already pointed out that you have to pursue it. FYI, that means it is optional... and not forced. You have a right to complain, but not about something that you know isn't true.
If you were right about things, I would 100% agree with your second post.
The only way to get a gay romance in their games is to literally go looking for it. If it feels like you're having it shoved down your throat maybe you're looking for romance in the wrong places.
Wow, people are so entitled. Lets make sure we can have gays, trans, bisexuals, minorities, and soon Muslims in EVERY single game from now on.
Why not? 🤔
Simple. We're not making the game and have no right to infringe on their vision for the sake of inclusion. If there is gay romance, so be it. That's totally fine. It is what is it is. Simple as that.
Cause it's stupid and pointless to just throw stuff in games for no reason other than forced diversity.
Because it's being done for the wrong reasons and the end result is a sh*t game.
Ah, but having hetero relationships in all games and then crying when anything else is included isn't entitled....... sure, sure
Cause its Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. lol kidding people can live love and be whoever they want to be. Besides all type of relationships can be avoided and wont be a bother. The only way you can stumble in said relationships is only if you go out looking for them. I for one am hoping i can find another alien chick like Tali to bang. I loved Tali she was my grilll. I miss my tali :(........ Where are you my Tali?!?!?!?!
If you are going off off that, hows being in relationships with one of your distant cousins,
and as Jim Jefferies said, for the amount of incest that would have to happen to populate the world from Adam and Eve, there are very few mentally challenged peopl
Well since LGBT makes up only about 4% of the population, yea there should be more heterosexual relationships. It's simple math, not entitlement. Better yet why don't they make a full on LGBT game, and promote it as such?
Actually I think you'll find that us straight folks don't care about romance in general in the games either. If it's there, cool. If it works well with the game, great. If it's not there, where do you see us clamoring for it? I want you to find one single comment on any Andromeda trailer you can find where someone is excited about there being hetero relationships in the game.
We seriously don't care. We begin to care when you try to single something out as "special" and necessary to show for some lame reason like "feelings." Feelings that shouldn't be attributed to fiction, especially when it has literally no bearing on anything in the game at all. Games with romances never actually give you anything for engaging in the romance. Hell, I think Skyrim is the only recent game that does and the most you get is a follower and 100 Gold every now and then. Yay.
I don't think they were pushing for gay characters to be included (they're already in there) They just wanted to know which characters were the homosexual ones.
Honestly, I don't get it. Story driven games like this I tend to avoid as many details as I can except for setting and premise.
When game developers add big breasts and revealing clothes to get sales then its fine
When game developers add gay characters its not fine
Seems like people love to receive but get annoyed when others receive too
Sad how many upvotes this got. Inclusion causes MORE people to relate which in turn allows MORE of us to be moved by the same piece of art. Together. That's beautiful. Why wouldn't you want that?
You should not be able to romance a character of the same sex unless that character was written to be gay. In that case, you should not be able to romance that character if you are straight.
I'm of a follow your heart mindset when it comes to love, so I don't have an issue with sexual orientation, but I am a straight man, so I would never accept the advances of another man. I have homosexual friends that would not accept advances from the opposite sex.
In Mass Effect you create your own character so you should have an option to romance with both sexes if you want :)
Right... Want to romance a straight make character?... Play as a female. Want to romance a straight female?... Play as a male.
"I don't have an issue with sexual orientation" ...but...
"You should not be able to romance a character of the same sex unless …. you are gay"
If you think having this option in the game forces you to choose it ... i have some news to give you.
Who are you quoting, Ivan?..
My point is, you should not be able to romance a straight character if you are paying a character of the same sex. Or, are they writing all the characters in the game as bisexual?
"you should not be able to romance a straight character if you are paying a character of the same sex."
Why not? You sound extremely insecure. What would happen if a man hit on you irl? Would you go caveman and punch him for finding you attractive?
@ivan and inmyopinion
Blatant misquoting happening here. He didn't say "unless you are gay." He said unless that character was written as gay. Meaning that not every character should be bisexual. Some should be straight, some gay, some bi. That's actually far more representative of how diverse we are as a species. Think dragon age origins, If you're a female warden and you try to romance Morrigan, it goes no where because she doesn't swing that way, but Leliana does. Morrigan doesn't suddenly turn gay just because you're interested. That would actually make her quite shallow.
I know, right. I'm pissed guerilla games made Aloy female when I'm male. No way for me to put myself in her shoes for the time I play each day.
I'm also pissed Suckered Punch is developing a Spiderman game. I would NEVER wear spider web tights..... how can I possibly feel involved in the story?
You missed the point entirely. What I'm saying is, you should not be able to romance a straight character if you are paying a character of the same sex. If you want to romance a straight male, play as a female.
If you are a straight man, would you accept sexual advances from another man?
That's not even close to what he said.
"I'm pissed guerilla games made Aloy female when I'm male."
You should be more pissed off that....
A) Aloy is the only ginger in the game.
B) Homosexuality is seen as normal in a game about the survival of an entire planet's biological life
C) Racism exists but seems to be based on the physical location you were born rather than things like skin color or religion (which is, again, antithetical to the theme).
D) All religions and no religion are all accepted and never commented on. In fact Aloy is one of 2 of the only atheists in the game, but no one gives a damn, including the Nora who worship All-Mother.
Im stoked, one less game I have to consider in an already packed year.
Why? Because a game that already includes gay relationships is going to consider showing trailers of those relationships? They've already shown hetero relationship trailers. Those who align otherwise would like to see trailers that interest them...why that would make you not want to purchase a game, I have no idea...
I mean, it is your right to buy or not buy what you want for whatever reason you choose, but the line for forgoing a purchase being drawn at "considering releasing gay romance trailers ahead of release" seems a strange one indeed; especially for a game series where you've always been able to have gay romances.
They should show neither. Neither has any bearing on the game whatsoever. Showing either is showing it for the sake of it, which is the very definition of pandering.
@DragonKnight So they should just remove the mechanic entirely then, yea? If it has no bearing whatsoever...
I mean ultimately it is part of the game and they show off parts of the game before launch. If they shouldn't show this, then why show any other gameplay? Is showing and teasing the fans how powers or exploration work pandering to them? Can't imagine why it matters anyway. If it has no bearing to you, then it doesn't matter what they show in regards to that. To others, it does...so they want to see it. Not sure what the problem is to be honest.
"@DragonKnight So they should just remove the mechanic entirely then, yea? If it has no bearing whatsoever... "
That's your take away from "they should SHOW neither" in a trailer? Fine, if that's where you want to go...
Yes, they should remove the mechanic altogether since it has no bearing on anything. It's needless fluff that adds no real experience to the overall intent of the game. The story isn't impacted, the characters aren't going to be impacted beyond one scene, it provides no gameplay advantage, and is at best a minor indulgence that leads nowhere. If the story were built around the mechanic, or if there was some actual purpose to it, then that's one thing. But romance for the sake of romance is just filler and pointless.
"I mean ultimately it is part of the game and they show off parts of the game before launch."
The point of trailers is to advertise the game. Get people excited for the game. No one is excited for romance in Mass Effect. No one who is actually honest about why they want the game is sitting on the edge of their seat for sweet sweet alien homosexual coitus.
"If they shouldn't show this, then why show any other gameplay?"
Lmao. I'm going to let this slide since I don't think you actually thought about this sentence before you wrote it. I'm going to assume your fingers moved faster than your brain on this one because the alternative would be too sad to want to examine.
"Is showing and teasing the fans how powers or exploration work pandering to them?"
See above. And you're making it really hard not to call out just how stupid this line of reasoning is.
"Can't imagine why it matters anyway."
It doesn't. That's the point.
"If it has no bearing to you, then it doesn't matter what they show in regards to that."
It has no bearing to the game. To me is irrelevant. Romance does nothing for the game, barely even adds to the believability of the world. Romance mechanics in Bioware games are the definition of fluff. They provide no incentive nor reward for engaging in them and are just there to be there. That is literally something that has no bearing on anything.
"To others, it does...so they want to see it."
Except it really doesn't. At the end of the day the only people who want to see this are people who NEED self-validation wherever they can get it, even in fabrication. They will fabricate some ridiculous competition that if there are scenes of heterosexual relationships then there MUST be scenes of homosexual relationships just to be fair. Anyone who finds this important has self-esteem issues that get worse when they seek to fix them by looking at fiction and fantasy. I guarantee you that there isn't a single straight person on the planet who will give a damn about heterosexual romance scenes in the trailer for this game. They're too busy looking at what actually matters about the game.
"Not sure what the problem is to be honest."
Of course you know what the problem is, but your sight is being blocked by a virtue signal
Your loss. How very small minded of you.
Ah yes I'm small minded because I disapprove of lgbt. Its kind of sad that a life choice movement can generate such approval but when 100s of young boys have an ak47 shoved into there hands and deprived of a childhood and are taught to kill, well nobody seems to give a shit and I'm the small minded one?
Its fine for you not to approve of LGBT. Whats dumb is you not getting a game because there is the option to pursue unconventional relationships. if like previous bioware games (which is most likely), you never need to encounter these situations if you don't want to and don't pursue them. You don't even need to pursue a romance if you don't want.
Also its not a choice, but thats sorta besides the point.
@Inzo - If you're worried about "100s of young boys have an ak47 shoved into [their] hands", why are you forgiving devs for writing games at all? Why are you not shaming them for not focusing 100% of their time on such things? Why aren't *you* doing that?
@inzo, you're insinuating I don't care about child soldiers. Please show me where you got that from. This is an old tactic, when you can't defend your position, broaden the scope. I remember seeing a few people debate about who the better hero was, Batman or Superman. One side started to lose and thus jumped to, "They're fictional characters! you want to see real heroes, look at fire fighters and cops! those are real heroes!" Same thing you're doing here. Also it's not a choice. Do you choose what makes your little dingus get big? neither do they choose what sexually excites them. Small minded, like I said.
Well said Inzo. Well said.
It's beyond stupid to confirm romances, gay or straight, and then keep them secret. What's the point? People who don't care aren't going to, you know, care, and people who do care are just going to get frustrated. I understand keeping plot stuff secret, but who you can and can't romance just seems petty.
Only reason I can think of is maybe the character itself would be a spoiler. Very long shot, and I doubt that's the case.
Are there any Martians that you can bend over and f**k in this game? Let's not be racists. Martians need love too.
"...you should not be able to romance a martian character if you are paying a character of the other specie. If you want to romance a martian, play as a martian."
Mock all you want but that could make exobiological sense. There's nothing to suggest that a human and a Martian even COULD have sex, let alone even have an attraction to one another.
@DragonKnight I don't...um...there's nothing to suggest Martians and humans can have sex because, insofar as we know, Martians don't exist. So it might make exobiological sense...but it might also not. And it would seem Martians in BioWare's universe do have exobiological compatibility so the alien/human humpty dance is all systems go. And hey, you don't HAVE to have intercourse if the parts don't...fit together, so to speak. I'm guessing they could find many ways - especially in our technologically advanced future - to stimulate one another.
Just sayin' :-p
Guys, this site is hilarious.
That's not what the sage was saying. He was saying that a straight male character shouldn't suddenly turn gay just because you're interested in him while playing as a male. It actually cuts both ways, Dorian from dragon age shouldn't suddenly turn straight just because I try to romance him as a female inquisitor.
Pre order bonus, Tranny relationship , season pass bestiality relationship. Deluxe collector's edition get the "mass relay dildo" your butt gets vibrated at lightspeed. $200 Deluxe digital Edition you get straight relationships because that's the most rare thing available nowadays.
Another person equating homosexuality and bestiality. Jesus. Also, love this gem right here:
jer1122 8d ago
"Jesus Christ man this shit is getting out of control what are we going to be able to play in the future what is going to be left? I'm getting so tired of these people just go away you don't have to play it. I don't get why you can be offended by something if you are then just go and ignore it and don't play it and don't buy it."
If having homosexual relationships in the game are going to offend you, then just go and ignore it...not sure what you are doing here. Maybe that was another jer1122 though...
I'm going to play as Scott and yes, he's going to be gay, but really.. why not leave some mystery? It's like when you go out to a bar or a party, you don't have this preset plan of who you're going to try and bang. You just go with the flow and see who you encounter. Maybe I'm from the old world, but I prefer my in the flesh "fun surprises" when it comes to prospective gentlemen. ~A little of the old face to face.
I hope that goes well for you, bud.
*sigh* More virtue signaling. With Dragon Age Inquisition, it felt like the devs had prioritized virtue signaling over actual gameplay and story. I'm afraid this is going to be even worse. Definitely waiting for the reviews on this one.
It was a freaking tweet in response to someone, not shouted from the rooftops. Your character is what you make it, I can not for the life of me figure out how you view that as virtue signaling.
And what in the actual crap are you talking about, they prioritized virtue signaling over actual gameplay and story in DA:I? I think if you had a lot of story and interaction that ended up revolving around gay characters and it made you uncomfortable, then that might say something more about you than BioWare as that wasn't my experience with the game at all. And I'm not sure how optional relationships are going to make things worse. If you don't want a gay relationship...don't pursue people of the same sex. I fixed the game for you! Hooray!
This is why people are getting tired of LGBT activists. They're whiny, self-entitled, circle-jerking, egocentric twats who want things their way and want their demands met CUZ IF U DONT UR OBVIOUS HOMOPHOBIC or some retarded shit. It's full of PC, SJW, Liberal-art student retards who prance about how their sexual orientation Demands that you appease them cause they were born 'Not Straight' thus they're a unique snowflake.
They give every other bi/homosexual, etc a bad name by how self-absorbed they are.
I could give a rat's ass about sex in video games. I care more about fun gameplay, captivating story and overall experience. If I want to see two people having sex. I'll watch porn movie for that one.
Mass Effect (and Bioware in general) is absolutely terrible with in-game romance, they should just exclude it altogether. It always feels so awkward, like the writers have never actually been in a relationship or something.