PSU takes a look at six possible new developers that could take the reigns from Naughty Dog for Uncharted 5, or a new Uncharted game.
The Uncharted series doesn't need any handing over, its finished and should remain that way unless ND has more plans. Only ND
I couldn't play Uncharted by any other developers. I have been playing Horizon lately, and GG did a wonderful job with that game. But my son loaded up and continued trying to finishing his U4 game on crushing, and Uncharted is so smooth and polished and perfect compared to everything else. If any other developer can make a game with such mastery, why aren't they? I'd rather see Uncharted left alone from here on out than dragged to death, kicking and screaming.
you don't understand how business works. god of war is another example, they will keep making them as long as the ip holds lots of value.
You don't understand how naughty dog works. They left crash bandicoot when they knew it was done, did the same to Jak and Daxter, they don't milk games like ms milks halo and gears. Sony/ND knows Quality > quantity.Your still a learner
@chrisx, cant ever help himself. Sony milks just as much as MS. They have so many games tho it goes under the radar.
Crash is still being made isn't it. Uncharted can continue on without Naughty Dog, maybe one day you will learn an IP is not always attached to the developer.
Actually chrisx is right. There won't be another Uncharted without Naughty Dog giving the OK. Unlike MS, Sony has many other ips that they can make money on. You really believe that Sony NEEDS to milk Uncharted to death? Man they just released Horizon Zero Dawn which is now a new franchise they clearly made money on. Sony has the luxury to not lean on one single ip, they have a boat load of them.
@moldy Crash isn't owned by Sony. It's Activision. They are going to milk it with another studio but that's not Sony's decision. The only game I can think of that Sony keeps releasing is MLB The Show, but that's a sports title.
Plenty of IPs go dormant or simply finish off. It's a matter of artistic vision for some studios. Naughty Dog is one such studio.
Well they created the Last of Us after Uncharted 3 so there's that. The recent creation of new IPs by Guerilla Games and other Sony studios shows that they value the creation of new IPs quite a lot. Now that I think about it Bend and Suckerpunch are producing new IPs as well. There's a demand for new experiences and Sony sees that demand quite well.
god of war has at least 10 different releases (including remasters and portable games) and all of them are not made by the same development team. so to try and tell people sony does not take advantage of an ip is just being naive. ask yourself, what's the problem with sony allowing another studio to carry on with another uncharted game? the answer is nothing. if you dont like the idea of naughty dog not making it then dont buy it. its obvious naughty dog wants to do other things like the last of us 2, that does not mean sony cannot outsource it to another team.
Your semi right.. thing Is though, sony have so many games they don't milk their big games to death. There's often major gaps between them by like 4-5 years. Microsoft have almost killed their games by releasing so many. They have forza, forza horizon. Halo numbered, halo reach, halo wars, halo odst. It's ridiculous. They have no other big exclusive games to release between those.
"what's the problem with sony allowing another studio to carry on with another uncharted game?" Um..... https://upload.wikimedia.or... You really believe I haven't seen that before? But like Golden Abyss proves NaughtyDog are the ones who make those games the best. P.S Sony bend are making this now. http://www.gamestop.com/com... Sorry buddy Sony are the ones who get to make that decision not you. They have a huge portfolio of franchises that they chose not to produce. Uncharted despite its popularity can be stored like all the other franchises.
Don't confuse Uncharted with other franchises that should have ended ages ago.
Moldy, the only other company that had the most consistent new ips when they were in the console race, is SEGA.
What studio besides Sony Santa Monica has made God of War?
@moldy This isn't ms and their Halo gears and Forza rinse and Repeat Look at how many new ips sony are launching this gen, uncharted is naughty dogs creation and they said it's the last one I agree with them let it rest after this and make a new franchise like guerrilla did with horizon. Never say never but for now let the IP rest
Not necessarily we've seen a great Gap in between releases of titles like a god of war Look at Jak and Daxter or even The Sly Cooper series I think they'll only make games so long as creators actually have real legitimate ideas before moving on to new intellectual properties. I think they want the studio to focus on the Last of Us or other new properties before returning to Uncharted I don't think they want to cheap and or devalue the property by continuing to rehash. All you have to do is read the article on what happened to Jak 4 , the team elected to not make a fourth game based on not really having an idea for one. @chris-Sony actually did not own those properties when they were first being created. It was actually out of naughty dogs control as well as Sony considering they did not have ownership of the intellectual property. I think because Sony was very early in gaming that the chances are they might have continued to make those series if they own the intellectual property You might have only saw Jak and Daxter and Ratchet & Clank based on necessity. Call it a blessing in disguise. The truth is we don't really know what Sony was going to do if they actually owned those properties for all we know they would have imitated Nintendo's current situation. By having to make Ratchet and Clank and Jak and Daxter I think it showed them that creating new properties is not the end of the world, it could also rejuvenate a install base and Sony owned it for life. @moldy- What is Crash Bandicoot still being made have to do with Sony? Read above, they're not owned by them. The issue is not that both of these companies created the same games the issue was that one of these companies are solely relies on creating those same games to move units the other doesn't. So yes we got a Killzone we got an Infamous we got a Gran turismo we even got a Ratchet & Clank, but that's not stopping Horizon zero Dawn ,days gone, Kojima death stranding , Wild, Detroit etc by the way sucker punches working on a new intellectual property. So it's not that we're seeing the same properties the same number of times, it's actually that we're seeing one of the companies actually solely just do this.
TLOU likes a word with you.
@moldybread And yet Crash has been irrelevant and garbage to a lot of us since Naughty Dog finished with it (you included unless you are some massive closest Crash Bandicoot fan and you forgot to tell us lol). It took over 17 years for another studio to be able to pick up Naughty Dogs genius work and do justice to PS1 era game mechanics and animations. Like chrisx said, you are still a newb when it comes to understanding anything, even when its almost 2 decade old history and staring you in the face. Oh don't worry moldy, 343i have proven that a IP doesn't have to be attached to the original developer even if they can never hit the critical acclaim level of the original games (it won't stop people losing their shit with anticipation all over again when 343i's Halo 6 is announced but not before they botch another remaster with the Halo 3 Anniversary Edition due this year).
You used some pos on Java to prove your point? Java?? Lmao you are truly a marvel, moldy.
Agree only naughy dog should ever make the uncharted games, If its time for uncharted to take a break for a while then so be as i have faith in anything and everything that naughty dog does.
Sony Bend already made a solid entry with Golden Abyss, so if anyone takes the crown it should be them. That being said Uncharted needs to have limited releases going forward. Just make 1 game per generation, and add content over the next 2 years from there. That gives them plenty of time to make sure the game is up to Naughty Dog quality, and keeps the franchise from falling into sequel overload by just doing 1 per generation.
I think, thougg, that.Sony have been a bit brighter over this issue and see the damage done to.some franchises, exclusive or otherwise, lately via over saturation etc. Activision show how to kill franchises like this. Think of bloody GH!? Also, the state of COD with Acti.Adding micro transactions to a nine year old entry this year as well. Ubi have brought AC and.Farcry to standstills too. Sony never.went for yearly or bi yearly iterations even with franchises they did overdo a bit like R and C or GOW - even then these were across different gens and sometimes hand helds. To my mind.Sony are the least likely of the platform.holders to milk series these days and dont have a Forza or Halo situation or a franchise like Mario that is used across many genres whether thats good or not.is a totally different issue, mind. Anyway, point is onlyGOW seems to keeptrucking for Sony.and even then its having a total reboot and isonlybeing made at all.be ause.SM lost faith in their own new ip half way thru. Idont see Uncharted being killed forever but don't see either Sony or ND making another for a long,long while after Chloes done. ND have two stellar series to chose from anyway plus the choice to remake or revisit Jak. With this and.recent industry.franchise burnouts.why would Sony need or want to farm Uncharted out to another studio? They wouldnt even need or want ND making one.If Aloy sticks as a new face for PS they ready have a replacement.for Nate leaving ND.with TLOU and whatever comes next and sony free to let them express themselves.
Please no, it only waters down a great series. Its ok to just let somethings be and leave them great. I do agree some games can benefit from a prequel like God of War Ghost of Sparta/Chains of Olympus. But Ascension was when things went too far. Uncharted doesn't need that at all I barely want to remember Golden Abyss.
To be fair, Golden Abyss was a solid game, especially seeing as it was portable. Just sucks it didn't have any kind of multiplayer, and a pretty crappy ending. The rest of the package was good though.
Nah, thanx but no thanx.
I'd say guerilla or santa Monica would make the best uncharted game after naughty dog but I'd rather just let the franchise be than have another studio take over. We don't need to over kill the franchise and I'd hate for any other studio to not work on their own projects just so they can work on somebody else franchise.
Agree, those are the only first party studios capable of making Uncharted games on the level of ND, but neither of them will ever work on it since they are both huge, talented studios with their own big IPs and ideas. Sucker Punch also has its own constant releases of games, other 2 studios listed in the article are neither capable nor deserving to make an Uncharted game. So better leave the franchise alone.
I totally agree, MS basically has done that instead of truly. Focusing on new IPs... The Coalition formerly Black Tusk was working on a new IP, and MS instead bought Gears from Epic and forced them to work on Gears for XBO... I'd rather Studios work on their own IPs than take over the reigns of a former studio... While Sony may have had some successes, with LBP, GoW and Uncharted:GA, there were blunders, like Modnation Racers on PSP, Resistance: Burning Skies on PS Vita and LBP3 on PS4... Invest in New IPs, and grow teams bigger to support core titles. It's why we have Bloodborne, Horizon, Gravity Rush, Knack, Infamous, The Last of Us and countless others..
If Uncharted is to continue it needs to be a fresh reboot of sorts similar to what God of War is doing.
Why would anyone other than naughty dog make it? Naughty dog and only naughty dog should make uncharted if there is to be another one. No other developer will put the same love into it.
Take over? Fuck that moronic logic. Naughty Dog probably learned their lesson after handing over Crash Bandicoot, to keep their IPs to themselves.
Naughty Dog never handed anything over. They never owned the Crash IP; they simply made it. The IP was owned by Vivendi Universal, who was later bought out by Activision, hence why Activision now owns the name. Naughty Dog is a property of Sony.
Wat? How can ND 'make it' and not 'own it'.... Even wikipedia says that they had it since: Vivendi Universal Games (2003–04) You do know Naughty Dog made the series in 1996.....which is quite a few years before Vivendi was involved, eh? :l This confuses me..... It was made by ND, published by Sony all the way up to 1999-2000. Then the publishers kept switching ever since then.
@Neco Because Sony was the publishing partner with Vivendi Universal. Naughty Dog was simply contracted to develope it. Take Insomniac for example; they make Ratchet & Clank, Resistance, and Spider-Man, but they don't own any of those IP's; Sony does. They can't take those games and put them on other hardware. Notice how if you look at the classic PS1 Crash game cases, they have Sony's publishing stamp. Arguably, Sony still partially owns the original 5 Crash games, which is probably why the new trilogy remake is exclusive.
Then I'm assuming you're making the error of confusing Vivendi Universal with Universal Interactive. Not the same people, but Vivendi did end up buying Universal in, again, 2000. Not 1996 to 1999. Universal Interactive published and distributed the game. So if Naughty Dog and Universal Interactive both Co-produced the game - prior to Vivendi being involved, why is it you'd claim ND has no say nor power over the game throughout 1996-1999 - again, before Vivendi bought Universal Interactive. The only way this would then be true that they didn't hand over any or all rights of the series is if Universal Interactive held more power over Crash than ND even though they were both involved - the ip of which then going to Vivendi AFTER 1999, not Before. Which then goes back to the beginning, if Universal Interactive distributed Crash 1996-1999 before Vivendi got involved .... and SONY was the one publishing it. ND being the developers, what gives Universal Interactive - the DISTRIBUTOR of the game, more say over the game ip than Sony and ND combined? Wherein WHEN Vivendi OBTAINED Universal Interactive - that they got the entire IP in 2000 just like that? By obtaining the distribution-company, Universal Interactive?
Wiki can be edited by anyone. Hardly the most accurate source, but regardless, no Naughty Dog never owned Crash. Studios create games all the time while not owning the IP (see Ratchet and Clank + Resistance). Dev = Insomniac, Owner = Sony.
The comparison being, Sony published and owned the games because they invested in copyrighting it just as they did with Demon's Souls. Sony helped co-develop and thus claimed it. Sony published Crash Bandicoot but you're saying, unlike Insomniac games, unlike Demon's Souls, Sony just 'Never owned it' and Never gave it away - but that a Distribution company, Universal Interactive, owned it - which then got handed down to Vivendi in 2000? Whilst the game was originally made and released under Sony, ND, and Universal Interactive - but you're telling me Universal Interactive owned the entire series, even though they just Co-produced and Distributed it? Do you get where this is confusing? Everything Sony generally publishes they Own a chunk of it. They did publish Crash - but I'm being told that that doesn't matter and that Sony owned nothing regarding Crash as an ip - ND also owned nothing regarding the ip, but Universal Interactive had everything? Which then was melted down as it got bought up in 2000 and became a part of Vivendi?
Alright I got the True story of what happened through some research from ND in an interview: "So, we announced that we were not renewing our contract and we were leaving the lot after Crash 3. At that point, Universal Interactive's management lost their minds." "We were forced to develop Crash 3 in the hallways of their offices. Although they still had a contract to give us office space, they decided to make our lives as miserable as possible." "If Universal had been more humane and reasonable, it is possible that Naughty Dog would still be making Crash products today." "Naughty Dog would have liked continuing with Crash beyond Crash Team Racing, but the relationship with Universal was untenable." So Universal was with them, but were assholes so ND Left the company, thus invalidating and handing it off, leaving it at Universal - once they left, they basically forfeit their ownership and it stayed with Universal, then Universal was bought by Vivendi, then that's where we all know things started to get fucked up. Albeit, everyone else and their way of explaining things was completely off the mark, didn't explain anything, and was wrong since people simplified it by saying "Vivendi always owned it" which, is inaccurate - yet I'm the one getting the downvotes, even though people butchered what happened. Oh well. Me explaining 'Vivendi isn't Universal nor owned them until 2000' made people want to Downvote spam my responses, N4G for you.
Yup, that's how it went. Sony owns the publishing rights to the original three titles, not the Crash IP itself.
I don't want anyone else other than ND working on the UC series, and I'd also rather have those studios working on their own games.
For example to all say we need that awesome, Sonic was have so value that any other platform games, but after all these low quality and creepy releases sonic lost his legend taste and become as cartoon over used character.
This is the problem with a lot of series, they never end and drag on and on, that is the reason I left Xbox platform for Sony, all we got was Halo/Gears/Forza. Uncharted as a series is completed, and it was an amazing run but now it's time to let it rest and look for the next thing.
Remember what happened when Arkham Origins was made by a different studio? I didn't mind the game so much but it wasn't all that great.
If they do more Uncharted, the only studio that could potentially continue it is Sony Bend. Guerilla is working on Horizon as a franchise, and should stick to that, Sucker Punch is doing their new IP and should stick to it, Santa Monica is doing God of War, and I don't think Supermassive has the resources. Honestly, if ND has no intention on doing more after LL, then that should be it. The franchise had an awesome run and it's time for ND to move on to 100% TLoU 2 focus, as well as a new IP.
Well Bend Studio is also working on the new IP called Days Gone and i agree ND should move on to TLOU 2 and new IP.
I know. The only reason why I list Bend as the most likely candidate is because Days Gone's success as an IP is still up in the air, and they're the only only studio besides Naughty Dog with any history with the franchise.
I love uncharted but thinking about what naughty dog could come up with, makes me want them to stop making uc( or at least put it on halt for one or two gens) and amaze us with completely new ip's. I don't want my favorite ip's getting milked to the point where oversaturation kicks in. I want loads of fresh experiences every gen like it always was with sony. If i wanted to play the same franchises over and over again i would choose one of the competition's console as primary gaming device.
I'm sorry, but there is NO OTHER studio on this planet that could handle uncharted, the way ND did... If ND isn't behind uncharted I WILL NOT BE PLAYING. Facts. Uncharted has ended. The studio is going forward and it's now time for new ND experiences. No other developer is worthy
Just let it be xD
it simply wouldn't be the same...
Love uncharted and I think if New games are made it will be the daughter that stars in them, with maybe drake making a cameo etc. But what does need to happen is you should have to be more careful when jumping, swinging. It's all to easy and handheld. Not enough tension.
Only Naughty Dog could leave an IP like Uncharted and actually get away with it. They did the same with Crash, Jak and Daxter etc. They may leave Uncharted, but what they bring to us that is new, will absolutely be worth it! This isn't a cash cow, even though it could be if handed over to another dev studio, its a project and work of art that snow complete! If it does ever come back, its because ND decide to I guess!
No thanks. It finished with 4 and there won't be any good Uncharted if not from ND.
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