"If you want to play online, get an Xbox"
Microsoft chairman Bill Gates has declared that the strategy for Xbox 360 is "working perfectly", questioning Sony and Nintendo's next-gen console offerings...
but whats with the question mark?s
Hey all I did was copy and paste the article... Maybe the host can fix the question mark problem...
If you want to go online and have to PAY for it for years to come get a 360, otherwise get a PS3 and get oline for FREE and play resistance 40player lag free...
online that wont be used for all games, do you think an online service pays for itself? get a grip, do u even have a ps3 if you are in the uk? and im sorry but its a small price to pay for excellent online service! its only the price of a game per year sheesh, and you get some MS points with it remember, and we can play online with the pc community, thays pretty sweet
You would'nt mind paying for it. It's your choice, a pint at the pub or a month of online gaming. The best thing about it is that it covers all games, not like PC games where each game has its own fee. As of what I have heard, the Ps3 online experience is far from perfect.
The servers for RFOM are provided by the developers not sony! And by the way ALL 360 games are live enabled can you say the same for PS3 lol i think not! i guess you get what you pay for lol.
if you want to pay money for things which should be free you can go with xbox live. if you want free online play, with no legs, go with psn.
too the PSN.
Look I pay my annual fee because I know 98% of the games I buy will have some form of online play. If you do not want to pay $50.00 a year you do not have too.
The server’s stay up and running for years because the fee's we pay take care of the maintenance and man powers it takes to run them.
You guys are just bitter because you were the @s holes on line making loud and lame claims that at this time the PS3 was going to be out performing and cheaper than the 360.
Well guess what the PS3 is not doing anything but making you losers crazy. Can you even read your own post without shame?
And if cost is a major factor for your gaming why do you think the PS3 is such a great deal?
I'm sorry to be so harsh but you guys are walking contradictions.
If you do not have $50.00 you can pay $7.99 for 1 month if your are not that hard core of a gamer. See you have options. So next time you lames tell lies to your friends and family members about the 360 think about your reputation and how the lies effect it.
I think "old Bill" should just leave them alone, let them continue their current strategy, I mean if he believes that basicly the competition is headed in the wrong direction then don't encourage them to "copy" the good things that you are doing, really because XBL is one thing that definitely seperates the 360 from what the other consoles offer, so just continue to focus on bringing great content and let the others go their way. Well I'm just thinking(typing) out loud....its just a thought, either way my whole point is that if you are doing well don't get too confident and lose focus....no matter how bad you want to laugh in the face of those who said "they would never take you serious".
Just what we all knew already:
"Go look at the bandwidth problems... They took their year and burned it by not having a decent CPU strategy and then turning to Nvidia at the last minute. It's a very unusual thing. Those processors are isolated from each other."
PS3 has a weak GPU. THat's why we see multiplatform games are at best on the 360 and the 360 will always have the advantage, combined with one year ahead in gen's of games
WHY BILL GATES SAY UPCOMING PS3 GAMES WILL NOT LOOK BETTER THEN HALO 3.HALO 3 LOOK NO BETTER THEN GOW
MGS LAIR HS FF13 FFV13 LOOK BETTER THEN HALO
MGS4 looks like piss green artoony sh*t, lair looks like yellow piss funk, H.S. has some strange Green yellow tint and looks cartoony plus the chick has three strands of hair, FF is just canned Anime.
the CAPS key to your left, click that would ya and leave it off.
All of you xbox fans bash the PS3 because its too expensive but, when ever a PS3 fan mentions the cost for live you say its on $5 a month. However, if you look at the bigger picture you would realise it is expensive.
The average lifespan of a system is 6 years during this time xbox live will cost you over $300.
Honestly, some of you xbox fans flood the PS3 forums with nothing but, negative comments. Ya, there are lots of PS3's available bla bla bla but, its not like people are buying 360's like crazy. People are either waiting for a price drop, still playing their PS2 or waiting for a wii. Either way they arent picking up an xbox.
"xbox live will cost you over $300."
but you are not getting that you get something in return; a great service of online gaming.
next to that i really dont think 60€(im from europe) a year is much it really isnt.
All my friends have an xbox360 with xboxlive so why shouldnt i pay for it? i mean ill be gaming against or with my friends.
i can get the free service from the PS3......but im wondering if my friends are having a PS3.....
THE ONLY RESON 360 SOLD BECAUSE GOW THATS IT
PS3 SOLD MORE THEN 360 WHEN IT CAME OUT
Say that your a hater and full of BS.
I own a 360 and I agree 100% with astroboy2k5.
Stop your crying, did you even at least look at the pic because all i see is PS3 fans flooding in here. lol.
If you wanted to stay out of the rain, you could live underneath a bridge for free. But if you want a house or apartment with walls and heat, you gotta pay.
your sooo narrow minded and am i rite in thinking you mite be a Sony fan boy? making excuses and sticking up for Sony as GOW isnt on it? hahaha! well your statement isnt correct i know alot of people that have XBox360s and like me they didnt buy it for GOW and btw i brought an XBox360 without knowing anything about any games on the XBox360 as i have always owned a PS2, yeh i am actually sad that some of the PS2 games arnt out on the XBox360, but ohwell i dont mind playing them on my PS2 downstairs, but also wanted to point out yeh there is A LOT of people who have GOW, i dont, although i would like to have it soon, so your comment isnt correct, pls dont try and make excuses for Sonys lack of good games.
That would be more accurate if you were speaking in terms of buying the systems vs playing games on a phone.
Live vs PSN is more like paying for better appliances for said house. Get a large refrigerator with all sorts of bells and whistles, with proven quality to boot, or get a standard fridge THAT STILL WORKS, minus an established consumer base and additional functions.
my man gates is right if you want to playonline.the with out question get a 360.with 5 million online gamers he can,t be wrong.now as for the ps3 has got no hope.let me see how many ps3 online gamers are there.i dou,t if there is more than a thousand.xbox live will always be the gamers choice.
Sonybots are willing to pay $200 more for a machine that doesn't have many good games / looks no better then the other machines and is mainly a blu-ray player (weather they want it or not)
But have a problem with spending $50.00 (less then the cost of a game) per year for great online service.
I appreciate the confidence Bill G, but lets just let the service and the games do the talking. Hubris and overconfidence is what got SONY in the boat they are in. Lets not get into a name calling match here. 360 has been doing well so lets just let that continue.
paying for Live because it is worth every penny. But PSN is also good. Of course Live is better. It's MS people, they might as well own the internet. MS makes it so their games have online capabilites, its a requirement for development on their system, and its a good strategy. And you really cant rag on the PS3 for not having as many users or games that support it because its only been out for 2 months now. Of course Live is going to have more users when its been out for a year and two months. PSN will grow, and the quality will also improve. Free online is a selling point, no denying it, but Live is worth it. It's just a matter if you willing to pay for it, and I think its about 50-50.
i still think microsoft could make LIVE completely free. People talk about them needing to make money for the cost of servers and crap but sony somehow manages to make it free. And microsoft isn't exactly poor
It seems now that Microsoft and Sony have adopted the "My dad can beat up your dad!" attitude of their respective "fan"bases. It would be nice and refreshing to just let your product speak for itself, but it is becoming apparent that this will not be the case. I am well aware of the fact that companies usually downplay the competitor, or overstate the ability or greatness of their own products. I wonder though, how many people are actually swayed by this type of marketing tactic. Personally, I don't care if a million people like something. If I try it, and don't like it, i'm not going to change my mind just because other people do. I can form my own opinions. I haven't passed on a PS3 because of what Microsoft says about it, i've passed for now because of a lack of exclusives that I would like to play. Cell this, Xenon that, means little if the games suck. All of the power in the world, if not utilized, means squat. I just wish Microsoft and Sony would make their focus on helping to create great experiences for us to play on whatever system(s) we own, instead of worrying about how much trash they can spew at each other. To me, it's like playing basketball. If I score on you every time I get the ball, what reason do I have to say anything to you? You, and everyone else sees what is going on. There is no need to talk. More games please, less bs. Thanks.
The online free part is definitely a plus but for what it offers doesn't really stand up to the offerings of Live! There is know denying that Live is a better service and you get what you pay!If it ever does become free then i'm cool with that also even though its 50 a year doesnt mean jack unless you dont have money when its time to renew which im sure for a teen or someone without extra cash laying around would really suck for because lets face it not everyone has 50 a year!
Is great because it is free. The only problem after theat is what do you play.
Here is why I think you Sony fanboys are stupid. All sony had to do was make 1 or 2 games that allow you to play online and you are calling it an online service. Heck even the PSP or the DS let you play online. XBox live it's not only about playing online. It's a community. If you don't think so, tell me what's the difference between playing a multi-player game on the PC and the PS3? What do the PS3 network bring that's not already on the PC. on the PC I can play games for up to 64 players, I can do voice that(using other software) and contact friends via messengers, etc.
so now xbox live is about community?? not about the online games?? so what the hell did u guys pay subscription for?? the free silver account wont let you play.. so now u pay for the gold service to get the community feature and not playing games??? weird..
now if u dont mind, plz tell me the difference of playing online on the 360 and PC.. ive played PC games online.. theyve got community too.. theyve got achievement too eventhough they didnt add up together.. and guess what.. most of it are FREE.. and on top of that there are lot more thing to do with the pc.. so tell me again why must we pay for the $50 per year??
bashing the ps3 online service because its free is plain dumb.. but justifying that u got screwed and have to pay for something that supposed to be free is just freakin dumber..
get a life mr. lead developer of a big software company...
You pay for a real service with XBL, you guy's have to understand PSN is just an open vessel and Depending on the Dev/title you will pay or play free.
Both consoles play online games end of story, anythign else is a small difference that only a nerd like yourself would care about, so sad!
I can tell the Great 1 has never been on Live.
we LIKE games that are on playstation and WILL be on playstation.we like action games,we like rpgs,we like quirky games,we like puzzle games,we like the multiple genres that are represented on playstation.we weren't charged for online for ps2 and we are not charged for ps3 online.because you shouldn't have to be charged.pc gamers aren't charged but since microsoft makes you pay just like they make you pay for everything else,it's okay.so we all should be okay with it?no way.
online is great if you want it,but i have friends.i don't feel the need to be a part of a community of gamers who shout profanity,racist comments,has pedaphiles on it(devlin anyone?),cheats or logs off because they are losers with no sportsmanship.i don't need microsoft points.can i buy a game with points?
it's true xbox live is better because it's been out longer and is made by a software company that knows the internet.but i don't care.i wouldn't want to go online for every game i got.some games are better by yourself.
i have a ps3(60 gig).i have four games and it will be growing soon.i didn't have to buy an add on.i didn't have to download crap to get backwards compatibility.i didn't have to buy batteries or a charger for my controller.i don't have to pay for internet gaming.i can web browse for free.i can video chat for free.i can watch bluray movies on it.you can SPIN it any way you like.these are facts.
microsoft didn't sell all those 10.4 million to customers.they lied.again.they lied.and they say over half didn't have xbox 1.how did they come up with these figures?they're pulling them right out of their butts.how can you expand when the top games are still shooters?i don't hear any 2.7 million viva pinata sales.maybe they are expanding to pc gamers who like shooters just like xbox did.but not to people who like everything else.
let me end this again with a piece of the article:
However Satchell's comments are likely to be questioned in some quarters because Microsoft has already publicly admitted that the 10.4 million consoles sold haven't all been purchased by consumers.
BIG,BIG LIERS,but you hold sony up to that double standard of yours.
it's supposed to be alright that a company abandons it's customers to get a jump on the competition?we wanted to be first.we wanted a cheaper system.we wanted lots of games.but at the expence of 24 miilion people that includes me?THAT'S CRAP TO ME.it was four years for us in america.but did you think about the three years for europe and some other countries that got the shaft.
DUDE THAT WAS CLASS YOU JUST SAID HOW YOU FEEL online is great if you want it,but i have friends.i don't feel the need to be a part of a community of gamers who shout profanity,racist comments,has pedaphiles on it(devlin anyone?),cheats or logs off because they are losers with no sportsmanship.i don't need microsoft points.can i buy a game with points?
AND IT COULDN'T BE ANY CLOSER TO THE TRUTH, WHY PAY WAS ALL THAT, THAT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD TO ME AT LEAST PS3 IS FREE AND HALF OF US PS3 GAMERS DON'T PLAY ONLINE SO WE DON'T GIVE A FUK ABOUT ONLINE!
ps3 is not free, nothing is free, someone always pays.I would rather pay £31 a year with all games connected than get a half system.
Why do you all rag on MS Live? Silver is free. If you want to try demos , get patches, download music, movies, etc it's free to use. If you want the higher tier and play with friends then you pay the fee of $4.16 a month.
I hardly think the 5 dollars a month are going to break anyones wallets when you know your getting a quality service that maintains a clean and uniform online experience. It's ease of use combined with the many features it offers are what compel so many people to use it. PS3's is only free because it has to compete with Live and if you have another fee on top of the already high cost of the unit (you also need to pay for a headset if you wish to talk online-$50). For those of you that say that PC's don't charge for online functions also don't seem to understand that the each PC game is it's own universe and there isn't a common username for every game you play. It gets complicated when you have 5-10 games on your rig and need users and passwords for each. There is also far less cheating on consoles then on the PC(a major plus in my opinion). For 5 bucks a month I can avoid that? Sign me up.
Overall I feel both systems do what they must but I enjoy having a uniform interface that all my "real life" friends can jump in to and get into a game in seconds.
Any fool can see that. lol
I don't even play games that much and only own two games at a time, i beat them and then i replace them. My score is 2400 and i'm a casual gamer. lol
"THE GREAT 1", you're a rabbid idiot with your foaming at the mouth personal attacks. You're the kind of garbage that got one of my bubbles tooken away.
PS3's a is weak rushed "response" to the Xbox360 launch all MS's saying is they had a well thought out plan and will be moving on(pulling away from the competition)and Sony was not ready for them and used hype(Smoke and mirrors)to make the PS3 seem ontop (then on par)with the 360.
"online is great if you want it,but i have friends.i don't feel the need to be a part of a community of gamers who shout profanity,racist comments,has pedaphiles on it(devlin anyone?),cheats or logs off because they are losers with no sportsmanship.i don't need microsoft points.can i buy a game with points? "
Have you ever Looked at what we say to each other up here? Atleast on live i can cahnnel my frustration in to Pwning the sh1t out of you then talk smack.
it's true xbox live is better because it's been out longer and is made by a software company that knows the internet.but i don't care.i wouldn't want to go online for every game i got.some games are better by yourself."
this is how i know you don't listen but love to hear yourself talk. You say some Games are better by themselves? Any one player game is better by itself if its a 1 player game genius.
Dead Rising is a one player game but it has live features, Private chat, Friendslist
leaderboards. theres no Co-op mode in this game but if i play it only i can still be part of my community if they know im online.
Gears has an excellent Campaign mode Too bad on Insane i need Help through Co-op Live something many PS3 can't imagine doing.
Did i Mention Resistance is the new Socom?
Bill Gates Should have copyrighted Online console services. I glad he said that they made all the right movew so far and deserve to be here.
Sony said last year in a Gameinformer issue that they WANT it to be free, not that it will remain free.
They said that will be up to the developers. So before you go bowing down to your Sony idol just yet, wait a few months.
Be careful what you say fanboys about the price, all that online play just might change.
the great one, communities have those things too are you going to leave earth, or are you just too scared to leave the house? i understand if your scared that there MIGHT be someone you have to talk to that would hurt your little delicate feelings, so sorry. tard
oh and yes you can buy games with points.
I dont think Gates could have slapped Sony any harder without knocking them out.
is stating the obvious and the results are conclusive! ; ] >
Keep lapping up that crap Sony keeps putting in your dish. Their service is NOT free. Sony simply provides the backbone and the developers are responsible for their own servers...meaning the developers foot the bill. Like any business they are not going to do this out of the kindness of their heart...they simply add that cost into the cost of the game so every time to buy a game with online capabilities your are paying for the service. You pay for it obliviously and Sony appears to you as your savior...NOT. Xbox live costs 1 dollar a week...think of all the little crap you spend a measly dollar on in one week. How many of you Sony people out there have an HD TV? I am sure you all are watching FREE TV on it right??? I mean why would you pay out the nose for HD cable when regular FREE TV can provide you channels right??? I all comes down to services and XBL have the services most are willing to pay a paltry $1 once a week. Don't want to play online...then don't buy it...that simple. In 6 years you will spend 10 times that amount in junk food so your 'sony' logic doesn't float.
and will continue to be worth every single penny I spend on it. Sometimes you meet some bad eggs, but mostly everyone is just looking for some fun, which one would think would be the point of playing games. 60 plus hours alone on Rainbow Six Vegas terorist hunt coop. Met tons of great gamers. One of the best experiences with this game so far on the 360.
i do bow my head in respect to XBL as the best online offering availible for a console, it's the acutal console itself that i have a problem with. Outside of a GPU and CPU upgrade everything else in the box screams last-gen.
well that's it than really, if you want a BR drive and like its exclusives than get a PS3.
the problem is with most people is that they've never heard of a BR player, or cell, or rsx. All they see is the price. Hence it's sudden drop in demand.
supposedly sold to customers while i was away having a life.all i want from online is things to purchase and demos.i don't want to pay for online or have a NEED to join something when i have family and friends to do things with.if i did,it would be those same people i already know.yes fkn,even if a game has multiplayer,it doesn't mean i have to play with someone else all the time.maybe YOU need to.i don't.i know what my skills are and never had to prove them to anybody.but maybe you feel YOU need to.gates is talking out his butt because the storm that is sony and nintendo is coming.
because it is just going to be light drizzle...scattered at best. The only reason I were the galoshes is for the layer of BS that is starting to accumulate in here.
Of PS3 games won't beat Halo 3 graphics yeah right you wish Bill highly doubt it MGS4 beats Halo 3 even Resistance Fall of Man beats Halo 3 this guy is just lieing to himself none stop even Mobile Suit Gundam Crossfire beats Halo 3 graphics
infact alot of you 360 fans are just extremely retarded Xbox Live is so boring that service doesn't even continue being the best online cause all of you 360 fans are just zombies listening to every BS crap! that he say's and thinking that he's right which in reality not all of his statements are right like Xbox Live that service is total trash nothing more and you call that the best I'd rather have PSN any day five thumbs down for Xbox Live.
"supposedly sold to customers while i was away having a life.all i want from online is things to purchase and demos.i don't want to pay for online or have a NEED to join something when i have family and friends to do things with.if i did,it would be those same people i already know.yes fkn,even if a game has multiplayer,it doesn't mean i have to play with someone else all the time.maybe YOU need to.i don't.i know what my skills are and never had to prove them to anybody.but maybe you feel YOU need to.gates is talking out his butt because the storm that is sony and nintendo is coming. "
Please Don't jump from the ledge Shadowgamer its only denial. Bringing family into this won't help any damn thing. Your trying to Disrespect gamers who are passionate by saying you got a life now and we don't huh? Funny Cuz Contrary to popular beliefs they way you act i'd sworn sonee was your only family the way you think they take care of you.Also Yes i do want to prove a Point about having skills genius. As long as there a "Versus" to a game i wanna show my skills. Too Bad sonee don't allowing this by not having online play in 95% percent of thier games.
BTW Don't say Nintendo is in the Storm mix like its a part of sonee plans,They're PWNing Sonee @ss too. All in all don't be mad cause we have a unified community with unparalled online gameplay. On the Bright side at least you have your family or sisters to play dress up with after all you do have a family right?
So the ps3 duds are still complaining about the cost of xbox live! They complain about paying 39.99 for a whole year of excellent online service, yet they put up $700 on a inferior ps3 and accessories on one day!
Xbox live is top notch....psn is a joke!
So I'm watching a dvd on my xbox 360 and I get messaged from some friends to play GOW! I stop the movie and pop in the GOW disc and get a few rounds of intense multiplayer. After about 7 games, I check my friends list and see that a few friends are playing Lost Planet. I messaged them to hold up for me. I take out GOW and pop in Lost Planet! Oh yeah baby, Xbox Live is where its at!!! Unfortunatly you cant do any of this on the ps3.
The problem with PSN is that once a game developer feels that not enough people are playing they will pull the plug on the servers. with XBLive you would be able to play online with any game as long as XBLive exists even if there is only a handful of people playing that game. Look how many people still play games from the 80's through emulators and such. If anyone thinks that devs are going to maintain dedicated servers for their games for 20 years is on crack.
even ea pulls support for their games after the next sports game comes out.if no one is playing online with a game,why bother continuing the server?
fkn(fido),did you get my paper,breakfast is almost ready.but please don't chew on my shoes.if online wasn't offered,i wouldn't care.by sony,nintendo or microsoft.it doesn't make my life better.you may feel that you accomplished something by playing someone else because you have low self esteem,i don't feel the need.i got tired of beating someone and the constant"let's play again!""one more time!"that's boring.sometimes you just want to play a game to relax.not school someone because it makes them feel bad when they lose.if i ever lost,i would say"nice one.""good job!"because that's sportsmanship.letting the other player get ready,get his/her controls right.but i don't have that drive to constantly want to beat someone in a game.when i was little,yes.but not as a man.i grew up.maybe you should.but then puppies don't have long lives like humans.
fkn(fido),did you get my paper,breakfast is almost ready.but please don't chew on my shoes.if online wasn't offered,i wouldn't care.by sony,nintendo or microsoft.it doesn't make my life better.you may feel that you accomplished something by playing someone else because you have low self esteem,i don't feel the need.i got tired of beating someone and the constant"let's play again!""one more time!"that's boring.sometimes you just want to play a game to relax.not school someone because it makes them feel bad when they lose.if i ever lost,i would say"nice one.""good job!"because that's sportsmanship.letting the other player "get ready,get his/her controls right.but i don't have that drive to constantly want to beat someone in a game.when i was little,yes.but not as a man.i grew up.maybe you should.but then puppies don't have long lives like humans."
How am i wrong? What you just stated about EA backs up my point exactly. Ea runs those servers not MS. EA is the exception not the rule on XBL and we all know EA are a bunch of theives. They are doing that to force people to buy their sports titles year after year just to continue playing online. With PSN that would be the case with all developer run servers not just EA.
"even ea pulls support for their games after the next sports game comes out.if no one is playing online with a game,why bother continuing the server?
fkn(fido),did you get my paper,breakfast is almost ready.but please don't chew on my shoes.if online wasn't offered,i wouldn't care.by sony,nintendo or microsoft.it doesn't make my life better.you may feel that you accomplished something by playing someone else because you have low self esteem,i don't feel the need.i got tired of beating someone and the constant"let's play again!""one more time!"that's boring.sometimes you just want to play a game to relax.not school someone because it makes them feel bad when they lose.if i ever lost,i would say"nice one.""good job!"because that's sportsmanship.letting the other player get ready,get his/her controls right.but i don't have that drive to constantly want to beat someone in a game.when i was little,yes.but not as a man.i grew up.maybe you should.but then puppies don't have long lives like humans. "
You Done up and lost yo mind. That why youhave Rooms like in DOA have a room of 7 people and go to work. FYI i do have sportmanship but that beyond the point the point is this you can never experience this on Ps3. All for that it made you a Bitter person. Calling me a dog only proves my point about you. A Ignorant Fanboy. You worthless Sack of PS3 Games.
"Ea runs those servers not MS. EA is the exception not the rule on XBL and we all know EA are a bunch of theives."
Could'nt agree more.
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