After the cancellation of Scalebound, Platinum Games seems doomed to collapse. But can they find retribution on the horizon?
It's what happens when you stretch yourself too thin.
Absolutely agreed even though I really like Platinum Games I always felt they were hit or miss don't get me wrong Bayonetta and Vanquish are amazing titles the same with wonderful 101 but anything other than that has always been very questionable by them and I believe they had a huge consistency problem.
I'm happy that Nier feels like one of those amazing top games by this team, but I also worry because to my understanding that games development was literally split from the team that was creating the specific story and RPG elements to platinumgames Joseph physically creating the gameplay so it definitely makes me wonder if their team is just drawn too thin.
Right now I'm literally questioning how Nier would have turned out if just Platinum Games was simply working on it and none of the staff from Square Enix
Maybe them simply focused on creating 1 aspect of that game is why it was able to turn out so well in terms of how it feels.
Even though it's pretty easy to blame Microsoft in regards to the cancellation of scalebound if you consider they could have simply put in another team to assist them through the development but at the end of the day they still also contracted this team to do something in the first place.
That's basically like getting mad at a team for struggling to build your kitchen yet paying more money to another team to help the other team to build your kitchen.
I mean the way I see it is Microsoft really shouldn't have to do that if they had a very clear and honest deal with Platinum Games for them to create something for them.
I worry about this company's future because of all the bad releases they've had in the past as of right now the last great game I even remember from this team is probably Bayonetta 2.
I think they need to work on less projects and focus on better and more quality products
I wouldn't want to develop for a company that treats me harshly
MS treated them like kings. Platinum simply but off more than they could chew. When MS approached Kamiya with those infinitely deep pockets and told Kamiya to make the game he always wanted to make Kamiya's eyes got big and then he wasn't able to maintain his end of the bargain.
@Barricade I member reading somewhere it was over a dispute of Microtrans.Apparently MS wanted them in but Kariya was against the idea.
I don't buy that for a second, they thrive under Sony and Nintendo, and just so happens there's an issue under MS? Where there's a will (and money), there's a way. Something went wrong, and if I were a betting man, I'd wager it has more to do with MS.
Platinum has worked with so many companies with out any problems. Only with Microsoft did they have a problem. And given Microsoft's track record it's safe to assume it was their fault.
We don't really know how Microsoft treated them and to be fair Microsoft has had a history of treating teams like crap if you actually look to see how many teams have been dysfunct with Microsoft.
At the end of the day I still feel with Microsoft owning the intellectual property and Microsoft actually funding the game they should have actually been able to even understand if this team was even capable of keeping up their end of the bargain especially if you consider how many years it was in development I actually still believe this intellectual property probably could have been saved if Microsoft simply brought in another team to assist them with their troubles that is not to say that it is Microsoft fault it's simply to say that they probably could have done a little more.
If the Last Guardian could be in development for 10 years and even have the director contracted by the end of its development I believe they probably could have did something with Scalebound.
I strongly believe both parties are likely to blame for something like this.
Clearly to varying degrees, but like somebody said because there's clearly going to be an NDA we may not really know who was really at fault but I'm not going to disregard Microsoft has a history of behavior like this.
Defend your assertion.
Without factual sources, you're just speculating. Can we not?
There were rumors within both companies that Milestones were reached several times. That was just part of the reasons MS had to cancel the game. The game was delayed several times, so I can believe this.
After playing through the Nier Automata demo numerous times...I'd say Platinum hasn't lost their touch at all. Can't really say they are losing it cause MS decided to cancel Scalebound.
TMNT, Korra, and even Transformers aren't helping.
Those games had less than a year development time. Even so, Transformers wasn't bad.
Metal Gear Rising, Vanquish, The Bayonettas, are helping.
Exactly, hence why we're talking about them losing the luster they used to have from those prior games.
If licensed game mercenary work for Activision isnt enough, let's talk Star Fox Zero.
Transformers is great. The other 2 is less than a year of development and Acitvision being a crap publisher (Tony Hawk 5 anyone?) SFZ is Miyamoto.
Making middle tier games, sometimes they're called AA games, isn't "losing their luster". They're tasked with making a lower budget game with a shorter development span, and generally the publisher will reduce the price tag to reflect this. I can't remember if it was done or not with those games, but even if it wasn't, it's not Platinum's fault.
Sorry, but a top tier studio isn't stretched so far that they'll be anyone's hired gun, no matter the hit in quality. That's where we used to think P* was quickly heading to. Unfortunately they've put out a whole lot of 'meh' lately.
SF zero is better than people give it credit for. Once you get used to the 2 screen gameplay (which has a bit of a learning curve to it), the game is pretty fun.
Not a masterpiece, but still a good game.
Sorry man, but a couple of cheap, quickly made titles based off of non-game related franchises isn't enough to shake my faith, and the Nier demo proves that.
Go play the Nier demo, and get back to me.
Played it. Looking good. Go play the games I talked about and get back to me.
I really like platinum myself. Not all their games are awesome, but they're usually not complete trash, and sometimes are excellent, with very few duds in their portfolio.
They can be hit or miss from one release to another, but I think this article is making something out of nothing.
'Doomed to collapse'.
Haha. Much drama... they expect people to read this s***?
Depends on who they are working with.
True, Epic Games #EPICFAIL #UE4RETAREDSLOW #EPICCEOLOVESMOBILE. KH0.2 can't even run 1080p60 on PS4PRO.
They had sheen to begin with?
They've made a good amount of mediocrities and outright bad games, but Nier Automata is very good from the demo I played. They need to move smarter.
With Nier: Automata coming out soon, Id say they are in a fine spot.
They dealt with the devil (Western publishers)
Not losing sheen just spreading themselves to thin .
I think their only problem was working for Microsoft.
Here's the thing a ton of these fools studios talk shit about MS , but have no problem accepting their checks after they meet with them . Can't expect a company to just hand u and open check with out certain clause attached to it .
Best case MS got the IP out of this mess and give it a second go later on down the line.
Ah I guess that's what happened to Lionhead and their Fable game which got canceled even though it was basically completed. As well as the games Press Play and Function Studios were working on.
Well lucky for Microsoft they have so many games coming out this year they can afford losses... oh wait they ain't got shit.
See you in Nier... oh no you won't...
@tyasia you won't see me in Nier and am more than good with that but u enjoy yourself.
Wait until Nier is released, it will be dope.
No. Bayonetta 2 was PHENOMENAL and Nier Automata looks as if it's going down that road as well.
Bayonetta was great and nier looks great too.. They arent terrible but they arent great either.. I just pass over the games w bad reviews.. Transformer & W101 werent bad
I rarely comment on this site...but the NieR: Automata demo puts your whole article to rest. Platinum isn't going anywhere.
Did these people even try the demo of Nier Automata?? It was awesome. Scalbound failed cuz it was an MS exclusive, which pretty much is a set up for failure in these day and age.
The Nier Demo called and said "Nope"
Nope and nope just play the Nier Automata demo, it's probably going to be their biggest hit to date.
Transformers? Nija Turtles? Korra?
Come on Platinum, where is the team that made my favourite last-gen game, Vanquish?!
How Platinum can turn it around (for me):
1. Hideki Kamiya needs to acquire the rights/form a deal with Capcom to make an Okami sequel
2. He then directs an Okami sequel but incorporates all things he's learnt from Scalebound and things featured in modern ARPGS like Witcher 3 (endless interesting sidequests and fleshed out NPCs) and Breath of the Wild.
3. In glorious native 4K
4. Thus making the GOTY for whichever year it comes out
5. and make this gamer the happiest person in the world
Platinum will be fine. I think dev companies need to think twice before getting in bed with Microsoft. Look at their track record:
Obsidian. Lays off 30 after cancelled RPG
DarkSide Games is a "shell" of what it used to be after Phantom Dusk remake was cancelled.
Maybe one day what happened between MS and Platinum will come to light as well.
Agreed. Microsoft has acquired and shut down many studios since this xbox brand hit the market. They also don't seem to work well with others like the Phantom Dusk and Scalebound fiasco's. I think its pretty evident that third parties are more than happy to make exclusives for Sony like the recent Nioh, Yakuza, and the upcoming Nier. Where are Microsofts third party exclusives? Out of professional respect developers wouldn't come out and say it but the proof is in the pudding and I don't think third party developers much like working with Microsoft. I see third parties making exclusives for Sony and not so much for MS.
So they worked well with Iron Galaxy, Behemoth, Remedy, Moon Studios, and Playground butI doubt you'd give them credit for that.
Thats what u get when u get involved with microshit
Shit can happen with shitstaion also .
So what does Evolution Studio, San Diego Studio & Sony London have to say about Sony. Is that what happens when you get involved with Sony? Give it a rest troll. Stuff like this has happened with Nintendo and Sony as well. EA closed more studios and cancelled more games then MS and Sony combined.
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