Peter Moore's revealed that Xbox's hard drive cost $70 per unit, and was the main reason the machine was prematurely dropped in favour of Xbox 360.
had nothing to do with it, clearly.
Nothing to do with it at all.
If not then what is this "we" stuff? You work for EA now PM. Get to work and move on. Sorry but these articles with him taking mild shots at Sony and reminiscing over the Dreamcast and MS consoles IMHO is a conflict of interest to his current employment / position. In actuality PM you are now sleeping with the enemy. EA was more of a factor as to why Sega left the console industry then Sony and their consoles. EA all but didn't support the Saturn and barely supported the DC.
I'm glad I don't hear Phil Harrison ranting and making a fool of himself.
with Moore and his "killing" statements lately. Besides, the 360 doesnt even have a hard drive as a standard. Also, please get that smirk off your face.
I don't get the $70 price. They were using a 10GB 3.5" Desktop harddrive. There was no way it cost $70 for one of those back in 2000 and definitely not for a large company like microsoft. I smell B.S.
He cant be serious $70 for a 10Gb HDD!!! The should shop around. The should start a new website for peter moors stupid comments and have a theme song for him.
He just said the demand was still high. Do you dare call Peter Moore a liar?!?!?!?!
NEVER! Why does he talk about M$ still? He needs to be busy sinking EA into the ground.
@Panthers cause hes being interview and asked questions about it stupid
He is on a role this week, must have a biography on the way
I call him a bellend. Y the hell's he chatting about Microsoft so much? U don't work for them anymore Moore so y are u mentioning them? Think he should concentrate on making EA a firm that doesn't piss out yearly updates will minimal improvements.
Great use of the word bell-end. Not used nearly enough in every day conversation. :)
part of a 5 part story on Moore himself. Part 1 starts with his involvement with a shoe company, then being hired by Sega. Great articles full of insight on an area of the business we usually don't see.
Couldn't agree more, Peter Moore is a tw*t
Lmfao. So true Ken, so true.
;-D No point in making things up, like Peter Moron does!!!;)
Xbots dont understand English....or Logic. so this is not true...... and for the record why is Peter doing Damage control fud spewing for M$ still? i thought he didnt work there anymore? oh yea once a M$ Flacky always a M$ Flacky.
peter moore got his ass pwned by ken kutaragi and now he's mumbling nonsense for bots to forget their red hot ass of death.
Next we will be hearing how the ps3 will fail by Trip Hawkins from 3do. that guy use to always try to downplay the ps1
Last time I checked Peter Moore didn't work for Microsoft. He doesn't need to spin anything in favor of the company, and he knows much more about MS's inner working than you retards.
Oh, so that's why the 360 doesn't have a standard hard drive.
Trying to make up money on these HDDs to recover what was lost from the original one. I still take the "First out the gate - head start to victory" thought process.
HDDs will be standard for them again. I know they like to control everything and avoid piracy and all that, but I think it would be a lot easier in the long-run to take the same approach Sony did with the PS3. If they want to make their own, then fine, but make them affordable or at least competitive with what's on the market.
The non HDD decision was actually pretty smart. Can't think they still loose that much money on it any more, but still a significant factor. But also the reason why Sony can never abandon the PS2...
I thought it was due to the cost of their GPU?
Peter Moore seems to be exposing a lot of dirty little industry secrets. The XBox was dropped because of what is now a cheap thing like a hard drive? Any wonder Microsoft charges so much for their propritary nonsense?
Hey thats one of the things I loved about the original Xbox. Also the fact that an ethernet port was standard on all consoles.
Is Peter Moore allowed to talk about all this? I would have thought that his employment contract would have contained a confidentiality clause somewhere.
It seems EVERYTHING sank the XBox... Paying Nvidia a huge fee for every GPU. Paying through the nose for the HDD Needing first mover advantage for the 360 It still annoys me that MS cut off the XBox so suddenly. I'm pretty shocked that MS couldn't get hard drives for less than $70. Even back then 2.5" drives were fairly cheap - and when buying in the millions I would have thought they'd have cost a lot less. Still no excuse why the 360 didn't come with a standard drive - it's the single biggest mistake MS made with the 360 in my opinion.
with all respect to moore EPIC FAIL!
So that's why they'll charge $149.99 for a 120gb. They need to make back some money on the original xbox HDDs lol
This is just an outright lie. Everyone knows that the Xbox harddrive was way too big; impossible to fill up for any reasonable gamer. All they needed to do was significantly cut down the harddrive size and their systems would've cost much less, while being just as useful.
Actually, the price diference from a smaller to a larger HDD isn't really big, the real price is the "base price" of the tech packed in. So that would be just a small saving for a big waste.
And they didn't learn anything from it since they use proprietary HDD's in the 360.
But in a proprietary enclosure. They should've just let users put in their own HDDs, like with the PS3. 360 owners wouldn't have to worry about getting ripped off.
Exactly. The way they do it now is expensive both for MS as well as the 360 users.
microsoft reaction. when a product cost to much they sink it Windows vista), they don't care about customers. i have enough of this company that the only thing in their mind is how to make money. Peter moore is the perfect guy for Ea, i hope they sink toghether. viva google, viva chrome, viva firefox, at least they are free.
Snakeshade says when a product cost to much they sink it Windows vista Im thinking PS3 is the same way
i don't get it. same way of what?
"We....."? "We....."? I have been traveling but it is obvious I missed the announcement that Peter Moore went back to work for Microsoft. After the past few days, MNoore attacking Sony in the most idiotic fashion when they are EA's biggest money maker, I can only assume he is back at RROD Headquarters.
20Go was $89. They've got definitly a problem with the hard drive price.
So...they design the system fully knowing the price of the harddrive and then the make a new system which has A WAY, WAY MORE EXPENSIVE HARD DRIVE..cant make this stuff up OMG, and this dude gets the "big" salary he gets for why ? if they also let users swap out drives like the PS3..non issue
Peter Moore: "I was responsible for DC pull-off" Peter Moore: "WE dropped Xbox cause of hdd" Wow, can't wait what's good can he bring to EA. Peter Moore: "We stopped making games cause..." Aw, damn, that would be actually good move.
That was funny!
I mean he works for EA now, how can Moore's comments be in EA's best interest?
$70 bucks for a 10gb hard drive from seagate? WTF?
Unbelievable. Just smells of lies, doesn't it?
Even microsoft wouldnt pay more for a hardrive! yet they will charge your dumbs$$ a $100 dollars for one. Defend that bots. I love to see it. Magnum ram I love it when xbots act surprised. Tell Santa you want to contribute to the gaming industry & support the ps3. Hurry, you can still get good credit at gamestop for your garbage 360!
So hardware and game sells had nothing to do with it? Because we all know that the ps2 won both of those categories by a large margin.
Holy crap 70$? What was it made out of pure diamond? That must have been some very bad design if it wasent getting cheaper over time like most consoles do. I guess that isn't happening this generation considering the 360's hard drive is more or less a lap top HDD in a special casing. A special casing that screws consumers from upgrading I might add.
I think this is indicative of why the HDDs keep getting larger this generation. HDD makers keep making larger drives and as demand for smaller ones decreases the price per unit to manufacture goes up and they have to charge more for them. With the original Xbox Microsoft probably should have upgraded to larger drive that was available at a better rate.
Your theory is a little off when demand for a product falls, increasing the price will only decrease the quantity demanded leading to greater loss of profit. So they should have kept the price as is or stop manufacturing them and concentrate on the product with demand.
Thanks for killing one of the other greatest underrated consoles in the world again, Peter Moore. Don't think I didn't notice MS abandoned the XBOX for an easy replacement. Lies, you just wanted to force people to migrate to the 360 in order to continue playing Halo, if you never had the promise of Halo3, would of people really taken notice of Gears of War? I don't think they would of, Halo3 was the bait, hook, line and sinker. Financial purposes? What about MY financial purposes? Did I buy an XBOX to just get 2-3 years entertainment out of it before you said 'no' because you sold a harddrive that was too big in it? and tell everyone to; "Move along, move along, nothing to see here." Then one by one, you SHUT DOWN the systems best developers and tell and leave third parties without a thread! And you STILL refuse to get all your exclusives working BC on 360, why? It took ages for Armed and Dangerous (which actually has a WORSE framerate than on XBOX) Why shouldn't Serious Sam 2 or Oddworld: Strangers Wraith work? Why is the sound big time messed up in Oddworld: Munches Oddysee? Why do you CHOOSE to ignore the console that made you get taken SERIOUSLY by households? Interesting Quote; "it wasn't about your or I anymore, it was about bringing women in, it was about bringing younger consumers in, but we were still perceived as Halo Box – and in some senses we were our own worst enemy, in that we had this incredible content, but it continued to define who the consumer was - then what did we do? We backed it up with chainsaws in Gears of War!" Mistake - Ignored mass audience. Concentrated on 'Hardcore' only at first. Read on the interview and you will find that Rare was brought in to correct this, but has it worked yet? 'The New Xbox Experience' is nothing but a similar reboot like when the XBOX stopped for the 360, its just pretending the 360 is something it just isn't. Because of the way they sold it in the first place and look, its still 'The Halo and Gears machine' not the 'Crackdown or something fresh machine' and pretty much sponsored by the middleware 'Unreal Engine 3'. In my view, the XBOX was still the finest console MS have made yet in titles, ambition and cost, even over the 360. The 360 is a mass disappointment in my opinion compared to that of the XBOX. XBOX exclusives had individual engines behind them, a library as deep as PS2 and PSone something for everyone, Sega was behind them continuing franchises from the Dreamcast (sounds as if that's due to Peter Moore actually, thanks) what does the 360 have? NOTHING. Don't be pointing your UE3, or hardly changing Tecmo exclusives at me, the Halo series that never evolved the campaign much on a brand new console after 2 installments except the multiplayer or a game that is only sold on its macho'ness gore because it can't think of anything better to show off. Unless the 720 offers something really good (I'm not just talking graphics) the XBOX will go down as the greatest console MS have EVER made in my view in reliability, games library, hardware and of course exclusives.
He must have picked up some quailty s++t lately
My Xbox is still going strong. Viva la XBMC!
But in the rush to beat ps3 they released a faulty piece of hardware.
Excellent comment Cajun.. Why is Peter in Defence mode all of a sudden 1st the Dream cast now the Xbox he no longer works for either of these companies but now years after doing what he did he has to defend them now what is next for him the reason we put out a product we knew had a failure rate of 33%. His job at EA must be in jeopardy right now because he sure is trying to suck up to M$ he must want to come back
guess that explains their stance on 360's HDD cost. guess they are looking to make all that money back... F*CK
I upgraded my HDD in my original xbox to a 40GB for cheaper than that
typical M$ thinking, 'now let's put the hard drive on the top of the console where all the heat is supposed to escape!' i think even 60gb is too small for next gen gaming, i upgaded my 60gb PS3 to a 250gb WD Scorpio for $150 +1 year warranty from NEWEGG, eventually i'll upgrade to that TERAbyte of the same model! I love my PS3, so many choices! HHmm what blutooth headset to use? MGS4 headset? Socom Headset?
What a jerk off. Dreamcast and Xbox are dead. Move on ffs.
And the name of said biography is. How to kill a console and leave your customers high and dry. by peter moore. And sing this with michael jacksons bad. Your moneys mine. Gone tell you right. Just dangle the money infront of my eyes. I'm not telling you we'll lose the race. But i'll tell you something different to your face To ms the skys the limit and to me it's really true. Sony you have seen nothing. Just wait till i get through. Because i'm bad, i'm sad you know it. And I'm with ea now just to tell you once again. I'm peter moore. You know it i'm peter moore you know whoo
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